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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:53 PM ET
Taj was whining again today on twitter that if we trade the 9OA for Reinhart it not a good move. When we could have kept the pick and signed TT lol

Isn't Reinhart a batter, more consistent younger player than TT?

Might not be so bad.

- LordHumungous


Oh the wise one . Surprised some NHL club hasn't scooped him up .
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:54 PM ET
Taj was whining again today on twitter that if we trade the 9OA for Reinhart it not a good move. When we could have kept the pick and signed TT lol

Isn't Reinhart a batter, more consistent younger player than TT?

Might not be so bad.

- LordHumungous


Reinhart had an equally impressive season on a much worse team, is younger and can play both C/W

This Taj guy sounds like an idiot
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 18 @ 4:54 PM ET
Oh the wise one . Surprised some NHL club hasn't scooped him up .
- VANTEL

If Reinhart was that consistent on a bad Buffalo squad for years he would have to be better here no?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 18 @ 4:56 PM ET
Reinhart had an equally impressive season on a much worse team, is younger and can play both C/W

This Taj guy sounds like an idiot

- Nucker101

Taj is an idiot and agreed was just thinking the same thing responding to Vantel on Reinhart. Very consistent scorer and young. Versatile.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 5:03 PM ET
Taj is an idiot and agreed was just thinking the same thing responding to Vantel on Reinhart. Very consistent scorer and young. Versatile.
- LordHumungous


I would be okay either way . I am not leaning for or against a big move because I don't know this draft class.

I can see Benning walking up to the podium and selecting the 9 OA and I could see him trading it to a team forced to make a trade like TB
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 18 @ 5:25 PM ET
To put Seth Jones to bed, I just read on HF that he apparently will not sign long term in Canada.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 5:29 PM ET
To put Seth Jones to bed, I just read on HF that he apparently will not sign long term in Canada.
- Retinalz


Wonder if it’s for political or geological reasons. Oh well, I’ve read he’s on the decline anyway and was outplayed by Werenski
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 18 @ 5:30 PM ET
I would be okay either way . I am not leaning for or against a big move because I don't know this draft class.

I can see Benning walking up to the podium and selecting the 9 OA and I could see him trading it to a team forced to make a trade like TB

- VANTEL

I honestly don't think TB have the assets for 9OA unless they send pieces they will not give up. Cirelli and Cernak combined to me is not worth it. Cirelli is a very good 3c that could be a 2c, but not replacing EP or Bo and is ultimately not worth it for us, and Cernak is doesn't move the needle on Cirelli for 9oa. The assets after that are not ones they will want to move.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 18 @ 5:32 PM ET
Wonder if it’s for political or geological reasons. Oh well, I’ve read he’s on the decline anyway and was outplayed by Werenski
- Nucker101

Someone here posted that Torts said he is a super MAGA guy. Drank all the kool-aid.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 5:33 PM ET
I honestly don't think TB have the assets for 9OA unless they send pieces they will not give up. Cirelli and Cernak combined to me is not worth it. Cirelli is a very good 3c that could be a 2c, but not replacing EP or Bo and is ultimately not worth it for us, and Cernak is doesn't move the needle on Cirelli for 9oa. The assets after that are not ones they will want to move.
- Retinalz



I just threw their name out there , it could be any team.
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Jun 18 @ 5:35 PM ET
Trotz Is the best coach on earth and Travis Green Isn't qualified to coach at this level at least not yet It would be fun to see these two switch teams next season with the same players on each squad that are playing for the 2 respective teams now and just see what happens. That would be a fun experiment.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:55 PM ET
Wonder if it’s for political or geological reasons. Oh well, I’ve read he’s on the decline anyway and was outplayed by Werenski
- Nucker101


I hear Jones prefers the sediment of Southern California.
Vancouver has too many mountains.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 6:03 PM ET
Dang. Ducharme is positive?
Pretty big blow to the team.
What an opportunity for Burrows tho.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 18 @ 6:06 PM ET
Wonder if it’s for political or geological reasons. Oh well, I’ve read he’s on the decline anyway and was outplayed by Werenski
- Nucker101

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:14 PM ET
I honestly don't think TB have the assets for 9OA unless they send pieces they will not give up. Cirelli and Cernak combined to me is not worth it. Cirelli is a very good 3c that could be a 2c, but not replacing EP or Bo and is ultimately not worth it for us, and Cernak is doesn't move the needle on Cirelli for 9oa. The assets after that are not ones they will want to move.
- Retinalz

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:22 PM ET
I hear Jones prefers the sediment of Southern California.
Vancouver has too many mountains.

- dbot


Far too few people are going to understand the genius behind this post.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
Taj was whining again today on twitter that if we trade the 9OA for Reinhart it not a good move. When we could have kept the pick and signed TT lol

Isn't Reinhart a better, more consistent younger player than TT?

Might not be so bad.

- LordHumungous


That is not his original content. Jeff Patterson brought it up and he isn’t wrong. Not the exact same player, but similar enough to make the Canucks look even worse if they made that move. It would certainly cost more than just the draft pick.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 6:58 PM ET
I honestly don't think TB have the assets for 9OA unless they send pieces they will not give up. Cirelli and Cernak combined to me is not worth it. Cirelli is a very good 3c that could be a 2c, but not replacing EP or Bo and is ultimately not worth it for us, and Cernak is doesn't move the needle on Cirelli for 9oa. The assets after that are not ones they will want to move.
- Retinalz

Lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 6:58 PM ET
That is not his original content. Jeff Patterson brought it up and he isn’t wrong. Not the exact same player, but similar enough to make the Canucks look even worse if they made that move. It would certainly cost more than just the draft pick.
- 1970vintage


I disagree. Toffoli is having his best year ever . His time spent with Canucks all 10 regular season and 7 playoff games) he was closer to what Pearson did who Vancouver fans showed their displeasure with when he signed his new contract.

I remember here on these boards, quite a few posters saying do not sign him ,Jake was faster and had 18 goals the year before.

Pearson signed 3 years at 9 .6 mil and had played 121 games and had 40 goals. Can you imagine if Benning signed Toffoli at 4 years 18 mil. Hindsight is a beautiful thing but I really doubt Toffoli was scoring 30 goals playing most of the year with JTM and Brock.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 18 @ 7:08 PM ET
I disagree. Toffoli is having his best year ever . His time spent with Canucks all 10 regular season and 7 playoff games) he was closer to what Pearson did who Vancouver fans showed their displeasure with when he signed his new contract.

I remember here on these boards, quite a few posters saying do not sign him ,Jake was faster and had 18 goals the year before.

Pearson signed 3 years at 9 .6 mil and had played 121 games and had 40 goals. Can you imagine if Benning signed Toffoli at 4 years 18 mil. Hindsight is a beautiful thing but I really doubt Toffoli was scoring 30 goals playing most of the year with JTM and Brock.

- VANTEL


I really have no idea what your point is. Toffoli was a good top 6 option, and produced. Reinhardt would also be a top 6 winger, a little younger, for a little more money.

I didn’t want to sign Toffoli, and I don’t want to trade for Reinhardt.

What I’m saying is the organization looks even worse, trading the 2nd + Madden PLUS the 9th and whatever else they would need to include to get a deal done to end up in “roughly” the same place.

We will never know if Toffoli would have had an impact in Vancouver this past season.
Sir Edward Longsha
Ottawa Senators
Location: Bowling Green, KY
Joined: 09.21.2020

Jun 18 @ 7:14 PM ET
Luke Richardson HC tonight.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 7:16 PM ET
I really have no idea what your point is. Toffoli was a good top 6 option, and produced. Reinhardt would also be a top 6 winger, a little younger, for a little more money.

I didn’t want to sign Toffoli, and I don’t want to trade for Reinhardt.

What I’m saying is the organization looks even worse, trading the 2nd + Madden PLUS the 9th and whatever else they would need to include to get a deal done to end up in “roughly” the same place.

We will never know if Toffoli would have had an impact in Vancouver this past season.

- 1970vintage


That really is a load of crap about trading the second. When the Canucks traded for him the league announced that next years cap was 3 mil higher than it actually was. Many teams made moves thinking they had more money.

There isn't a person I know of that predicted a flat cap of and a pandemic that shut down the world back in February.

If Benning signed Toffoli for four years at 18 million dollars after playing 17 games the media and the fans would have a field day.

Don't you remember what it was like in here before free agency? It was close to a 6 to 4 vote in favor of NOT committing to Toffoli.


Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 18 @ 7:19 PM ET
Dang. Ducharme is positive?
Pretty big blow to the team.
What an opportunity for Burrows tho.

- dbot

Sometimes great things happen when an assistant coach takes over…….
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 18 @ 7:36 PM ET
That really is a load of crap about trading the second. When the Canucks traded for him the league announced that next years cap was 3 mil higher than it actually was. Many teams made moves thinking they had more money.

There isn't a person I know of that predicted a flat cap of and a pandemic that shut down the world back in February.

If Benning signed Toffoli for four years at 18 million dollars after playing 17 games the media and the fans would have a field day.

Don't you remember what it was like in here before free agency? It was close to a 6 to 4 vote in favor of NOT committing to Toffoli.

- VANTEL


Why is it a load of crap trading the 2nd? Did it not happen?

No one foresaw the flat cap/pandemic, but you can't say Jim hadn't put himself in an awkward position even before that.

And Benning signed a whole lot of players before they even played a game for the Canucks. Better to sign someone you traded for and actually saw play/see them fit in rather than 0 games (Sutter) or all his FA spending.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 7:37 PM ET

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As of now talks with likely Rookie of the yr Kaprizov &
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have gone cold. My understanding is he’s in Moscow and it’s believed CSKA is interested in signing him for KHL & Olympics.
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