Columbus & Ottawa are also interesting destinations for a player like Monahan. Players that still score 25 goals consistently in this league carry a value to GM's even though fans dont see it that way. Honestly, I would love to build a 2nd line around Monahan & Mangi if the value for Monahan isnt high enough. The 10 OA & Brown from Ottawa would be a tempting package.
- Kevin R

Even with Torts gone I’m still unsure that Mony would waive his NTC for Columbus.

Mangi and him together seemed to provide decent secondary scoring down the stretch together and given that actual GM’s make less moves than us armchair guys in the off-season I would say is the likely scenario heading into next season

In a normal draft I don’t believe monahan gets you 10OA but I wouldn’t rule it out in a presumably weaker one. Brown personally doesn’t do much for me with Ruzicka and zary expected to play the middle in the bottom six over the next year or two. As well I believe that if the sens make a move for a center they’re going to want white going the other way. I think if we could get a prospect plus 10 I would like Thomson because we literally have no RHD in the system.

I would like to see the Flames pursue the following.

Konecny for JG. We will have to add. Konecny has a decent contract till 24-25.

Sam Reinhart for Monahan. With Monahans injury history this might not work. But Reinhart lowered his stick by asking for a trade.

Trade Dube for a decent young RW prospect. Even ff JG is traded, that still leaves the LW position ridiculously stacked.

Tkachuk
Mange
Dube
Pelletier

Tre seems to have a hard on for small speedy LW prospects. Besides Phillips, whom is still a pretty big question mark, Flames have absolutely ZERO depth at the RW.

Any interest in signing Palmieri? Any other RW targets?
- DuranDuran

JG as a rental doesn’t get you konecny but in a sign in trade I would say the flyers will have to add. That said I think it would be a huge mistake by philly to move konecny as I don’t think he’s hit his ceiling just yet.

We would definitely have to add to Mony to get Reinhardt, don’t know what but Reinhardt just had a career year and mostly did it without eichel so his value is probably still around what it should be. And there is still sub-zero chance Mony waives his NTC for buffalo.

Dube seems to do well enough on the right side and I would keep him. Only reason why I consider moving him is because it appears sutter’s not a fan which leaves me concerned for his development.

I’m thinking our big UFA get will be armia. He’s a big RW that definitely fits the description of a sutter type player

Per a source, the Flames, with interest already on Taylor Hall, have also discussed the possibility of obtaining Eichel in a deal that would send Johnny Hockey to Buffalo along with more assets....working on what those might be..

Oh Eklund...

Anyone think Rittich gets a contract in the NHL next year?

Anyone think Rittich gets a contract in the NHL next year?
- geta02it

A PTO and a near league minimum 1 year deal to back up if he has a good camp. Tre made a great trade getting a 3rd for him!

Any interest in signing Palmieri? Any other RW targets?
- DuranDuran

Kylington + 2nd for one of Arizona's young RWs

We have a good shot at signing Dumba as a UFA in a year, he's from Calgary and was training here prior to the pandemic.. I think he drove a black BMW X5 with giant chrome rims lol

JG as a rental doesn’t get you konecny but in a sign in trade I would say the flyers will have to add. That said I think it would be a huge mistake by philly to move konecny as I don’t think he’s hit his ceiling just yet.

We would definitely have to add to Mony to get Reinhardt, don’t know what but Reinhardt just had a career year and mostly did it without eichel so his value is probably still around what it should be. And there is still sub-zero chance Mony waives his NTC for buffalo.

Dube seems to do well enough on the right side and I would keep him. Only reason why I consider moving him is because it appears sutter’s not a fan which leaves me concerned for his development.

I’m thinking our big UFA get will be armia. He’s a big RW that definitely fits the description of a sutter type player
- RedC21

You don’t think a perennial PPG player doesn’t get you a guy who’s career high in points is 61 and also has the stigma of not performing in the playoffs?

Sure he’d be a rental but Philly would be insane not to make that trade one for one.

You don’t think a perennial PPG player doesn’t get you a guy who’s career high in points is 61 and also has the stigma of not performing in the playoffs?

Sure he’d be a rental but Philly would be insane not to make that trade one for one.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

I dont often agree with the Wop when assessing JG's trade value but on this one I do.
I would propose JG and our 2021 2nd for Konecny and the Flyers 2021 1st. If we have to eat the difference in JG and Konecnys salary for 1 year I would.

I dont often agree with the Wop when assessing JG's trade value but on this one I do.
I would propose JG and our 2021 2nd for Konecny and the Flyers 2021 1st. If we have to eat the difference in JG and Konecnys salary for 1 year I would.
- DEDDIE

He’s an elite offensive talent. I’m not sure what the love affair with Konecny is about. I watch a lot of Flyers games because I’m in that region and sure, he’s good but to think that he would be involved in a one for one for JG is insane to me.

This fan base really undervalues what JG means to this team. He only got better once he was separated from an ineffective Monahan. A first line of JG-EL-MT is a helluva first line. If Dube can figure it out then he, Monahan (if he’s healthy), and Mangiapane could form a good 2nd which puts Backlund where he should be: on the 3rd line. If Monahan can’t recover from his hip issue then they’re in big trouble.

He’s an elite offensive talent. I’m not sure what the love affair with Konecny is about. I watch a lot of Flyers games because I’m in that region and sure, he’s good but to think that he would be involved in a one for one for JG is insane to me.

This fan base really undervalues what JG means to this team. He only got better once he was separated from an ineffective Monahan. A first line of JG-EL-MT is a helluva first line. If Dube can figure it out then he, Monahan (if he’s healthy), and Mangiapane could form a good 2nd which puts Backlund where he should be: on the 3rd line. If Monahan can’t recover from his hip issue then they’re in big trouble.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

I’m not denying that JG isn’t significantly the better player or that it’s very likely that he would resign anyways.

I just don’t believe most GM’s would give up a 24 year old perennial mid 20’s goal scorer that’s also a good two way player with term on his contract for potentially 1 year of Gaudreau. Especially when konecny’s value is at the lowest it can possibly be. The only one that would consider it would be someone like Tampa that is likely to make the finals anyways with or without JG, not a team that just missed the playoffs.

To me it would be comparable to if Arizona dealt garland or chycrun for Hall last year which would now leave them without Hall and one of those core pieces.

I think I’m pretty realistic when it comes to what JG is and what he isn’t. Your evaluation of him leads me to believe you have him in the same tier as panerin but I would say he’s (still better but) closer to prime Taylor Hall. Elite offensive talent but 1 dimensional and probably better as a 2nd/3rd piece behind another teams superstar. To put it simply I don’t think he’s going to carry a team on his shoulders to a stanley cup victory.

I’m not denying that JG isn’t significantly the better player or that it’s very likely that he would resign anyways.

I just don’t believe most GM’s would give up a 24 year old perennial mid 20’s goal scorer that’s also a good two way player with term on his contract for potentially 1 year of Gaudreau. Especially when konecny’s value is at the lowest it can possibly be. The only one that would consider it would be someone like Tampa that is likely to make the finals anyways with or without JG, not a team that just missed the playoffs.

To me it would be comparable to if Arizona dealt garland or chycrun for Hall last year which would now leave them without Hall and one of those core pieces.

I think I’m pretty realistic when it comes to what JG is and what he isn’t. Your evaluation of him leads me to believe you have him in the same tier as panerin but I would say he’s (still better but) closer to prime Taylor Hall. Elite offensive talent but 1 dimensional and probably better as a 2nd/3rd piece behind another teams superstar. To put it simply I don’t think he’s going to carry a team on his shoulders to a stanley cup victory.
- RedC21

I don’t think he’s the guy that carries a team to a Stanley Cup, either but neither is Konecny.

I don’t think he’s the guy that carries a team to a Stanley Cup, either but neither is Konecny.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

And without a contract in place for Gaudreau philly could be left with neither player after next season if they make that deal.

I’m running on the assumption that we’re trading JG because he isn’t willing to resign with us so trade him for something instead of lose him for nothing. I would also assume that philly isn’t going to trade a good 24 year old top six forward and then potentially lose Gaudreau for nothing.

It would have to be a sign and trade to get a package involving konecny otherwise the return will be similar to what New Jersey got for Hall. But given the likelihood of JG resigning with them it would probably be a huge mistake to not maximize his value with a sign and trade.

So if I haven’t done a good enough job explaining it yet my expectation would be

JG with a contract: Konecny, 1st round pick and b- level prospect

JG without a contract: 1st round pick, plus an assortment of other picks/B level prospects

Likely though considering philly will be looking to compete I think they would deem a proven konecny more valuable to them than their blue chip prospects so I would suggest starting with Frost/forester, 1st round pick plus more.

He’s an elite offensive talent. I’m not sure what the love affair with Konecny is about. I watch a lot of Flyers games because I’m in that region and sure, he’s good but to think that he would be involved in a one for one for JG is insane to me.

This fan base really undervalues what JG means to this team. He only got better once he was separated from an ineffective Monahan. A first line of JG-EL-MT is a helluva first line. If Dube can figure it out then he, Monahan (if he’s healthy), and Mangiapane could form a good 2nd which puts Backlund where he should be: on the 3rd line. If Monahan can’t recover from his hip issue then they’re in big trouble.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

My biggest thing is I don't believe for a minute Johnny will resign in Calgary this summer unless we overpay him and for a 1 dimensional player like JG I believe that would be a big mistake. We are deep at LW and need to use that strength to improve our RW. One thing that happens every year is the final four are all big, fast and skilled and we are not built to play that game for 2 months!.

I don’t think he’s the guy that carries a team to a Stanley Cup, either but neither is Konecny.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

Konecny makes 5.5 with 4 years of term though which in itself increases his value.

And without a contract in place for Gaudreau philly could be left with neither player after next season if they make that deal.

I’m running on the assumption that we’re trading JG because he isn’t willing to resign with us so trade him for something instead of lose him for nothing. I would also assume that philly isn’t going to trade a good 24 year old top six forward and then potentially lose Gaudreau for nothing.

It would have to be a sign and trade to get a package involving konecny otherwise the return will be similar to what New Jersey got for Hall. But given the likelihood of JG resigning with them it would probably be a huge mistake to not maximize his value with a sign and trade.

So if I haven’t done a good enough job explaining it yet my expectation would be

JG with a contract: Konecny, 1st round pick and b- level prospect

JG without a contract: 1st round pick, plus an assortment of other picks/B level prospects

Likely though considering philly will be looking to compete I think they would deem a proven konecny more valuable to them than their blue chip prospects so I would suggest starting with Frost/forester, 1st round pick plus more.
- RedC21

JG would sign in Phily all day long and likely for a home town discount. With that knowledge its easy for the Flyers to trade for him and the Flames can have the extension talk with JG July 1 providing Philly with all the info they need.

Olesiak is on my to-get list.

JG would sign in Phily all day long and likely for a home town discount. With that knowledge its easy for the Flyers to trade for him and the Flames can have the extension talk with JG July 1 providing Philly with all the info they need.
- DEDDIE

I also think Philly needs some positive news to spin. JG coming home is a feel-good story. I am all for it.

JG would sign in Phily all day long and likely for a home town discount. With that knowledge its easy for the Flyers to trade for him and the Flames can have the extension talk with JG July 1 providing Philly with all the info they need.
- DEDDIE

I could even see a handshake agreement on a contract done now if we are able to get their 1st round pick this year. It may be in a weak draft but I presume philly’s priority will be Jones and Hamilton before Gaudreau and with Columbus already having 3 1sts this year I would bet they want philly’s 2022 1st.

Also if philly wants to bring in all 3 they will need the cap space. I would look into seeing how much extra they would pay up for us to take on JVR, Voracek or Ghosts’ contract. Might hit two birds with one stone as we try to retool while not completely sabotaging sutter’s desire to win.

And without a contract in place for Gaudreau philly could be left with neither player after next season if they make that deal.

I’m running on the assumption that we’re trading JG because he isn’t willing to resign with us so trade him for something instead of lose him for nothing. I would also assume that philly isn’t going to trade a good 24 year old top six forward and then potentially lose Gaudreau for nothing.

It would have to be a sign and trade to get a package involving konecny otherwise the return will be similar to what New Jersey got for Hall. But given the likelihood of JG resigning with them it would probably be a huge mistake to not maximize his value with a sign and trade.

So if I haven’t done a good enough job explaining it yet my expectation would be

JG with a contract: Konecny, 1st round pick and b- level prospect

JG without a contract: 1st round pick, plus an assortment of other picks/B level prospects

Likely though considering philly will be looking to compete I think they would deem a proven konecny more valuable to them than their blue chip prospects so I would suggest starting with Frost/forester, 1st round pick plus more.
- RedC21

Sorry cant agree with your package without a contract & with a contract we would get a lot more. The package you described without a contract will be at the trade deadline next year. Right now value is higher & the acquiring team has a full year to get him extended. Especially if he's on his approved team list after July 27th.

Sorry cant agree with your package without a contract & with a contract we would get a lot more. The package you described without a contract will be at the trade deadline next year. Right now value is higher & the acquiring team has a full year to get him extended. Especially if he's on his approved team list after July 27th.
- Kevin R

I would say I think you’re underrating konecny a little bit but that’s fair enough after a down year. I think what I proposed was in the name of being realistic because A) elite players almost never go for what they’re worth and B) I don’t think a flyers fan would agree to Konecny, 13th, frost/forester/York and maybe more depending on what you think JG is worth.

As I said before Philly’s off-season priority is fixing their defence and if they feel like they would be the front runner when JG goes UFA they might be comfortable just waiting until then to get him for free as well. Philly doesn’t need to make a move for him right now which gives them a bit more leverage.

As for without a contract you might be right as my opinion was likely influenced by my belief that JG will probably be with us until the trade deadline if he is moved but once again the extras are probably somewhere more in the realm of Lindblom, Patrick, Allison, kubel etc. Good young players with alright potential but not blue chippers by any means

I would say I think you’re underrating konecny a little bit but that’s fair enough after a down year. I think what I proposed was in the name of being realistic because A) elite players almost never go for what they’re worth and B) I don’t think a flyers fan would agree to Konecny, 13th, frost/forester/York and maybe more depending on what you think JG is worth.

As I said before Philly’s off-season priority is fixing their defence and if they feel like they would be the front runner when JG goes UFA they might be comfortable just waiting until then to get him for free as well. Philly doesn’t need to make a move for him right now which gives them a bit more leverage.

As for without a contract you might be right as my opinion was likely influenced by my belief that JG will probably be with us until the trade deadline if he is moved but once again the extras are probably somewhere more in the realm of Lindblom, Patrick, Allison, kubel etc. Good young players with alright potential but not blue chippers by any means
- RedC21

So will Tocchet become part of the coaching staff?

I would like to see the Flames pursue the following.

Konecny for JG. We will have to add. Konecny has a decent contract till 24-25.

Sam Reinhart for Monahan. With Monahans injury history this might not work. But Reinhart lowered his stick by asking for a trade.

Trade Dube for a decent young RW prospect. Even ff JG is traded, that still leaves the LW position ridiculously stacked.

Tkachuk
Mange
Dube
Pelletier

Tre seems to have a hard on for small speedy LW prospects. Besides Phillips, whom isa pretty big question mark, Flames have absolutely ZERO depth at the RW.

Any interest in
signing Palmieri? Any other RW targets?
- DuranDuran

Alex Tuch
Perfect Sutter player.

Alex Tuch
Perfect Sutter player.
- K-man25

What are you giving up to get him??'


Read an article saying it's time to trade Tanev. Sell high. Kind of like how they should have done with Gio after willing the Norris.

I am not sure which team I hate more. Tampa or Montreal.

What are you giving up to get him??'


Read an article saying it's time to trade Tanev. Sell high. Kind of like how they should have done with Gio after willing the Norris.

I am not sure which team I hate more. Tampa or Montreal.

- DuranDuran

Yeah, that dude from thewincolumn has some questionable takes. No one is trading a successful UFA signing one year into the contract.

The wound will never heal from Tampa. Go Habs and Paul Byron. Where is the fun in the best team winning?

Are you guys really entertaining the idea of trading Tkachuk?

If so. What would you want from the Blues to us to bring him home?

Thomas is off the list. Can’t ask for him. That’s his linemate ha ha. (Look at their history)