Blues are about to implode IMO
- Ogilthorpe2

Sweet music!

It would not surprise me at all if the Hawks traded one or two of the guys you mentioned. I think Kalynuk is the best player of the bunch right now (and my pick to be the best going forward as well). If Boqvist can get back to what he was in the middle of the season, and keep progressing, he will leapfrog everyone quickly. Boqvist, Beaudin and Mitchell are all kind of the same (type of) player, so it will come down to which side they play and who they think actually is the best. We've seen that they aren't all that shy to trade away 1st rounders.
- Chunk

Likely will....think back to pre cup winning Hawks.....Keith, Seabrook, Hammer, Wisniewski, barker.....only 3 moved on.

Likely will....think back to pre cup winning Hawks.....Keith, Seabrook, Hammer, Wisniewski, barker.....only 3 moved on.
- SteveRain

Damn those five look a lot better than our prospects. Mitchell, Beaudin, Boquist and Kalynuk are all in the same mode of smallish puck movers. Keith, Seabrook, Hammer and Wiz all had a physical aspect and ability to play D in addition to puckhandling skills (puckhandling a bit less in Hammer).

Stillman and Murphy are less talented than all except Barker although Barker played decently in his first few years. Maybe Stillman will surprise us and be a steal. With his physicality, I think losing Big Z is less of a loss.

He ran one coach out of town. Not a very good one but still...
He likes to air his grievances to the media too. He's a cancer.
- GPHawksfan

Maybe but it is such a poop organization that has no clue what it is doing. I don't think he is alone is being disgruntled in that type of situation.

I don't put much stock in the whole run a coach out of town BS. That is an organizational failure, imo.

From what work associates tell me it was more so there goaltending that failed them. Paid Binnington a LOT and he was OK and the backup was brutal.

Armstrong is an aggressive GM so it will be interesting to see how he pivots this year.

I do agree with you on Dallas, Minnesota, and Winnipeg. I also am NOT high on Nashville. Think they got VERY lucky at the end to make the playoffs.
- SteveRain

They made a huge mistake is letting Pietro go and signing Krug. Krug is not a #1 and Faulk doesn't do much for me as one.

Maybe but it is such a poop organization that has no clue what it is doing. I don't think he is alone is being disgruntled in that type of situation.

I don't put much stock in the whole run a coach out of town BS. That is an organizational failure, imo.
- Elbows15

This all may be true, but to me he's kind of a wiener. Talented no doubt, but not worth the cost for this team anyway.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...-draft-due-to-injury.html

Seabrook and Shaw made this list, but Toews did not. Maybe he'll be back.

This all may be true, but to me he's kind of a wiener. Talented no doubt, but not worth the cost for this team anyway.
- GPHawksfan

The Hawks are in no position to give up multiple assets shredding any organizational depth they have at this point.

I don't disagree that he comes off as a wiener

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2021/06/18-players-exempt-from-expansion-draft-due-to-injury.html

Seabrook and Shaw made this list, but Toews did not. Maybe he'll be back.
- mohel

Toews could always be added at a later date. (frank). Shaw's cap space is probably more valuable that the likes of Strome, Gaudette, Carpenter or Nylander.

They just need to name Carpenter the captain in Rockford already and be done with him already.

It would not surprise me at all if the Hawks traded one or two of the guys you mentioned. I think Kalynuk is the best player of the bunch right now (and my pick to be the best going forward as well). If Boqvist can get back to what he was in the middle of the season, and keep progressing, he will leapfrog everyone quickly. Boqvist, Beaudin and Mitchell are all kind of the same (type of) player, so it will come down to which side they play and who they think actually is the best. We've seen that they aren't all that shy to trade away 1st rounders.
- Chunk

Don’t agree with that at all. Mitchell especially, at least in NCAA play was a much more rounded player than the offense first Boqvist.

Toews could always be added at a later date. (frank). Shaw's cap space is probably more valuable that the likes of Strome, Gaudette, Carpenter or Nylander.

They just need to name Carpenter the captain in Rockford already and be done with him already.
- Elbows15

No question. Seabs' and Shaw's cap space are a serious asset, if Rocky is willing to spend the money.

Toews could always be added at a later date. (frank). Shaw's cap space is probably more valuable that the likes of Strome, Gaudette, Carpenter or Nylander.

They just need to name Carpenter the captain in Rockford already and be done with him already.
- Elbows15

the fact they have 2 guys makes it much better if it was just Seabs its very hard to use off season LTIR. we sign hamilton with Seabs being LTIR off season be compliant day 1 and then put on Shaw on LTIR day 2 and have cap flexibility all year.

the fact they have 2 guys makes it much better if it was just Seabs its very hard to use off season LTIR. we sign hamilton with Seabs being LTIR off season be compliant day 1 and then put on Shaw on LTIR day 2 and have cap flexibility all year.
- kmw4631

How about if Toews is added?

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2021/06/18-players-exempt-from-expansion-draft-due-to-injury.html

Seabrook and Shaw made this list, but Toews did not. Maybe he'll be back.
- mohel

Ha! About 8 years ago, that is the start of a pretty darn good team.

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2021/06/18-players-exempt-from-expansion-draft-due-to-injury.html

Seabrook and Shaw made this list, but Toews did not. Maybe he'll be back.
- mohel

5 current or ex Blackhawks on that list.

Don’t agree with that at all. Mitchell especially, at least in NCAA play was a much more rounded player than the offense first Boqvist.
- Ogilthorpe2

Mitchell played some good hockey last year before he hit a wall, to me, Mitchell and Kalynuk are long term assets, I would not move them. Beaudin’s value I’m sure is well known to other GM’s, might bring more back than most think. Boqvist is another story, although he was the best of the bunch last year, I’m not sure what his future is, especially with his injury history.

Don’t agree with that at all. Mitchell especially, at least in NCAA play was a much more rounded player than the offense first Boqvist.
- Ogilthorpe2

Guys that can skate the puck, add offense, not going to be overly physical, and play defense positionally (vs moving opponents). Sure, you can argue the degree to which they are proficient, but they are the same kind of defenders (IMO).

5 current or ex Blackhawks on that list.
- TheTrob

They played a lot of hard games.

Don’t agree with that at all. Mitchell especially, at least in NCAA play was a much more rounded player than the offense first Boqvist.
- Ogilthorpe2

It's too soon to move Mitchell unless somebody is dying to get him...

They made a huge mistake is letting Pietro go and signing Krug. Krug is not a #1 and Faulk doesn't do much for me as one.
- Elbows15

Completely agree Pietro is a fantastic dman Krug and Faulk pale in comparison. The ability to play good defense without the puck is so important in this league and he's 1 of the best at it

Brooks is a clown. Do I think Bowman made a call? Of course he did. Its his job. Anyone giving up a bunch of assets for Eichel will regret it.
- Elbows15

Agree so hawks give uo a 20 year old in Dach who could be and most likely be imo a better all around player than echiel who in own right is a very good player. Plus 4 or 5 more years at 10 million and the 11th overall pick um no. Stay the course keep building for the future maybe after this season hawks look to add a impact player.

Agree so hawks give uo a 20 year old in Dach who could be and most likely be imo a better all around player than echiel who in own right is a very good player. Plus 4 or 5 more years at 10 million and the 11th overall pick um no. Stay the course keep building for the future maybe after this season hawks look to add a impact player.
- Scott1977

How?

How?
- mohel

I didn't say they would add a impact player but consider adding one.

How?
- mohel

Well, they could trade Stillman for starters.

Guys that can skate the puck, add offense, not going to be overly physical, and play defense positionally (vs moving opponents). Sure, you can argue the degree to which they are proficient, but they are the same kind of defenders (IMO).
- Chunk

Mitchell may not be an overly large physical specimen, but in the limited ample size I’ve seen, he seems a lot more blue collar than Boqvist to me. More like an Oduya type. Not big, but still gritty.