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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
everyone passed on him...some twice, some thrice some more including the stars, jackets (twice) and rags before tbl snagged him...

give stevie y and the bolts organization credit for not only drafting him, but developing him as well

- Michael Pachla



Starting to think stevie y is getting credit that maybe pointed in a different direction.

Tampa looks as good with out him, if not better.

Detroit looks as bad with him, if not worse.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
has anything of note happened the past few days with the Sabres
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 21 @ 12:46 PM ET
has anything of note happened the past few days with the Sabres
- SabresFaninIndiana

No.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:51 PM ET

- SabresFaninIndiana



how can this happen? a black, white supremacist
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 21 @ 12:51 PM ET
That's probably more realistic.

I think Dach fits the byfield/ jack hughes/ laferierre requirement.

11th fits the draft pick
Kubalik - current nhl player with upside


Dach
Cozens
Mitts
Great28

- Boss34


Dach, for me, is one player I think that will rival Jack in a few years. If they dangle that package I'd do it, but probably try to squeeze something else out of them instead of Shaw who is likely to be on LTIR (at least that is what I read somewhere)...therefore Shaw helps them by providing $3.9m of Cap relief. Get another prospect instead
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:52 PM ET
Starting to think stevie y is getting credit that maybe pointed in a different direction.

Tampa looks as good with out him, if not better.

Detroit looks as bad with him, if not worse.

- Boss34

isn't this bolts team the one that he built?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:53 PM ET
everyone passed on him...some twice, some thrice some more including the stars, jackets (twice) and rags before tbl snagged him...

give stevie y and the bolts organization credit for not only drafting him, but developing him as well

- Michael Pachla


The Sabres need to go out and hire their head of player development from Tampa and make him the Team president here.

That team develops everyone.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 21 @ 12:54 PM ET


how can this happen? a black, white supremacist

- Michael Pachla

he had some hilarious bits on that show
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 21 @ 12:56 PM ET
That's probably more realistic.

I think Dach fits the byfield/ jack hughes/ laferierre requirement.

11th fits the draft pick
Kubalik - current nhl player with upside


Dach
Cozens
Mitts
Great28

- Boss34



Andrew shaw. ???
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 21 @ 12:56 PM ET
The Sabres need to go out and hire their head of player development from Tampa and make him the Team president here.

That team develops everyone.

- ImThatGuy


It has to be easier to develop when the entire fan base isn't waiting for a 17 year old to be the saviour. Stevie Y should continue to get credit as he bought the ingredients and baked the cake.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
Andrew shaw. ???
- Anderdog

retired

concussions
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
It has to be easier to develop when the entire fan base isn't waiting for a 17 year old to be the saviour. Stevie Y should continue to get credit as he bought the ingredients and baked the cake.
- Slump Buster

5 Layer Chocolate
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
retired

concussions

- homiedclown


Under 35 ( 29 )
And ufa
Why would we trade for him
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 21 @ 1:03 PM ET
retired

concussions

- homiedclown

Him and Seabrook come of there books, so that's about 10.2m, and if Toews is out again they have some cheddar to spend.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 21 @ 1:04 PM ET
Under 35 ( 29 )
And ufa
Why would we trade for him

- Anderdog

we shouldn't trade for him

he has one year left on the books
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 21 @ 1:04 PM ET
isn't this bolts team the one that he built?
- Michael Pachla


Yes. Detroit was scorched earth and they're doing things pretty slowly. Stevie's made some nice picks so far.

He and his staff picked almost everyone on that team right now in Tampa. They got a bundle of picks for selling off their old players and castoffs and made the picks count. I think the only players of prominence not picked by Stevie are StamkO and Hedman.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 21 @ 1:06 PM ET
Under 35 ( 29 )
And ufa
Why would we trade for him

- Anderdog


What 36 said. He's a 3.9M cap dump.. I think.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 21 @ 1:06 PM ET
we shouldn't trade for him

he has one year left on the books

- homiedclown


He's a cap dump to get the previous 3 players I listed and 11.

Taking those 4 is about 10M. What do you know.

Edit: 11.5M

Lets them take Jack and use the extra 1.5 for re-signing.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 1:08 PM ET
yeah, but those first 10 months or so was a nightmare...from covid to the firings to the losing streak to jack and sam reportedly having had enough...could it get any worse?
- Michael Pachla


Sure: Get bad returns for both of Eichel and Reinhart while hiring David Quinn as the next head coach.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 21 @ 1:09 PM ET
isn't this bolts team the one that he built?
- Michael Pachla


For the most part yes.
Coleman and Goodrow were very good TDL acquisitions last season, as was picking up Maroon and Shatty before the season started last year. Adding our friend Bogo also helped.
BriseBois made those moves.

TDL acquisition Savard was a good move as well.

Brisebois gets credit for knowing what he had after the CBJ series, keeping the 5eam together and adding in key parts.

His real test comes in about 5 weeks.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 1:10 PM ET
he had some hilarious bits on that show
- SabresFaninIndiana

ya...that's like one of my all-time favorite skits

more chappelle

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 21 @ 1:11 PM ET
Dach, for me, is one player I think that will rival Jack in a few years. If they dangle that package I'd do it, but probably try to squeeze something else out of them instead of Shaw who is likely to be on LTIR (at least that is what I read somewhere)...therefore Shaw helps them by providing $3.9m of Cap relief. Get another prospect instead
- IonSabres


Agreed on each ☝️
Could really live up to a eichel-lite guy.

I think shaw or someone else would be a cap dump to off set the 10 million.

I also agree with adding olofsson, with eichel. Makes both players more valuable? Although me and olo are in an "on again. Off again " relationship ♥️
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 21 @ 1:12 PM ET
What 36 said. He's a 3.9M cap dump.. I think.
- TheSabresTaco


Read it wrong
My bad
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 1:12 PM ET
Sure: Get bad returns for both of Eichel and Reinhart while hiring David Quinn as the next head coach.
- kingcong39

was talking about kagm's first 10 or so months on the job...but, yes, it can get worse
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 1:12 PM ET
For the most part yes.
Coleman and Goodrow were very good TDL acquisitions last season, as was picking up Maroon and Shatty before the season started last year. Adding our friend Bogo also helped.
BriseBois made those moves.

TDL acquisition Savard was a good move as well.

Brisebois gets credit for knowing what he had after the CBJ series, keeping the 5eam together and adding in key parts.

His real test comes in about 5 weeks.

- IonSabres

well put IonBolts

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