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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
7m per year for 0.79 ppg and he'll be expecting a pay raise next year.
So this is really not a good option to trade marner for.

- Fakepartofme

His QO is 9M which isn't so hot.

If you're trading Marner for Tkachuk+ it really, really matters what that + is.

Having said that, I'm super open to contemplating a Tkachuk-AM34-Willie line.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
For whopping total of 5 pts in 15 games.
Horrible.

Marner had 3 goals and 17pts in his first 15 games.

Ahhhh that time of year, where leafs fans over value other teams players.

But little mitch has to facking score more for sure. Its ridiculous.

- Fakepartofme


Bad case of shiny new toy syndrome.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
Plan the parade. They've won as much as the Leafs. It's win the cup or go home
- RogerRoeper


I’ll take multiple rounds each year over what we get any day of the week. Pretty tough to win the cup when we’re always at home after 5-7 games. You’re the only fan that’s satisfied with losing I guess and bashing more successful teams.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:21 AM ET
I’ll take multiple rounds each year over what we get any day of the week. Pretty tough to win the cup when we’re always at home after 5-7 games. You’re the only fan that’s satisfied with losing I guess and bashing more successful teams.
- Garnie



I would too, but in the end you haven't won squat and we would be told that by everyone.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:22 AM ET
Bad case of shiny new toy syndrome.
- Aaron_85



He's "Gritty" and lpays with an edge. Those are guys who do great in the playoffs or something.

The guy looks like a complete headcase that is a playoff bust and overpaid,
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:23 AM ET
He was acquired to be a good backup. He turned into a starter with terrific numbers. He had a higher save % than Price in that series. He makes 1.6 cap hit.
- RogerRoeper


He let in softies and we lost...having a higher save % means sweet (frank) all obviously, you can lose 8-0 1 game and still win a series in 5.

Price let’s in a softie or 2 and we win, except as Leafy usual he didn’t.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:23 AM ET
He let in softies and we lost...having a higher save % means sweet (frank) all obviously, you can lose 8-0 1 game and still win a series in 5.

Price let’s in a softie or 2 and we win, except as Leafy usual he didn’t.

- Garnie


This year we definitely didn't lose beacuse of goaltending.

Go get Price then. Makes 8.9 per more than Campbell
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:24 AM ET
I would too, but in the end you haven't won squat and we would be told that by everyone.
- RogerRoeper


The playoffs is the most exciting time of year, too bad I don’t get to watch many games. Who’s everybody?, you’re to old to worry about everybody.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 9:25 AM ET
Thing that bothers me is everyone agreed on that 20 years ago when Leafs made big runs. getting to the conf finals was seen as nothing if you don't win the cup, Now fans brag over 1st round wins.
- RogerRoeper

Yup.

If the Leafs had made it past the 1st round recently I suspect this whole narrative by other fanbases would wash away pretty quickly.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:25 AM ET
This year we definitely didn't lose beacuse of goaltending.

Go get Price then. Makes 8.9 per more than Campbell

- RogerRoeper


Ya we did, Gallagher’s goal was game over.

Sorry.

Also our other $22m on line 1 stank too.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:25 AM ET
The playoffs is the most exciting time of year, too bad I don’t get to watch many games. Who’s everybody?, you’re to old to worry about everybody.
- Garnie



This generation's fans have really changed a lot.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:26 AM ET
Ya we did, Gallagher’s goal was game over.

Sorry.

Also our other $22m on line 1 stank too.

- Garnie


Well there were 4 10m+ players in that series.

3 of them actually played.

It's pretty obvious which one had the biggest impact.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:26 AM ET
Ya we did, Gallagher’s goal was game over.

Sorry.

Also our other $22m on line 1 stank too.

- Garnie


He was better in the playoffs than Freddy has been, other than maybe that first series against washington.

Again, we did not lose because of goaltending.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:26 AM ET
That's the one thing about these guys with much smaller cap hits than Marner that signed half half the term. They all need new deals now or soon.
- RogerRoeper

He signed his contract after Mitch.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:27 AM ET
This generation's fans have really changed a lot.
- RogerRoeper


It's a miracle Leafs have fans under 20 years old considering how many "great moments" they gave their fans.

Seriously, winning important games, winning series... that's what sticks with ya moving forward.

My son (7 years old since yesterday!) didn't care much about the Habs before they eliminated pittsburgh last year.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 9:27 AM ET
I’ll take multiple rounds each year over what we get any day of the week. Pretty tough to win the cup when we’re always at home after 5-7 games. You’re the only fan that’s satisfied with losing I guess and bashing more successful teams.
- Garnie

When the Leafs lost back to back Conference Finals back in the early 90s were you satisfied?

"Oh well, at least we had a couple of great runs where we won 2 whole rounds two whole times!"
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:28 AM ET
I would too, but in the end you haven't won squat and we would be told that by everyone.
- RogerRoeper

They won the right to brag that their team went further.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:29 AM ET
It's a miracle Leafs have fans under 20 years old considering how many "great moments" they gave their fans.

Seriously, winning important games, winning series... that's what sticks with ya moving forward.

My son (7 years old since yesterday!) didn't care much about the Habs before they eliminated pittsburgh last year.

- Scabeh



(frank) right off, you guys haven't won since 1993.... How do the Habs have a fan under 28...

No wonder I can't come here any more...
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:29 AM ET
He was better in the playoffs than Freddy has been, other than maybe that first series against washington.

Again, we did not lose because of goaltending.

- RogerRoeper


Sure thing Roger, we won because he played so well in game 5 and 7. I must be living in an alternative universe...my bad.


Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:31 AM ET
When the Leafs lost back to back Conference Finals back in the early 90s were you satisfied?

"Oh well, at least we had a couple of great runs where we won 2 whole rounds two whole times!"

- mjones242


At least we have a month or 2 of some exciting hockey, the last 5 years have been tough....nice to make it but fack, I’d like to watch some rounds. Only 1 team wins, if the cup is the only satisfaction then I need a new hobby.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:32 AM ET
Sure thing Roger, we won because he played so well in game 5 and 7. I must be living in an alternative universe...my bad.
- Garnie

Ummmm
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 9:32 AM ET
It's a miracle Leafs have fans under 20 years old considering how many "great moments" they gave their fans.
- Scabeh

After the Leafs were eliminated this year, my cousin - who is a huge Leafs fan - posted on Facebook asking for people to make suggestions for NHL teams that his newborn son should follow because he wasn't going to subject his son to constant failure and heartache.

Not saying this is necessarily representative of Leafs fandom in general, but there is a LOT of angst across the board from fairweather fans to dyed in the wool fanboys/girls alike.

To me, the long-suffering-fan syndrome is my birthright but I wonder if the fanbase takes a bit of a dip or skips a generation at this point.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:32 AM ET
Sure thing Roger, we won because he played so well in game 5 and 7. I must be living in an alternative universe...my bad.
- Garnie



So you are expecting better than what he provided? It's one of the best trades in leaf history getting him. Context...
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:33 AM ET
He scores a goal every 3 games, in the playoffs and regular season.
Leafs could use that.
And he averages 17 minutes a night.

- bobbyisno1

For playoffs, it would be every 5 games based on his short playoffs games
Marner playoff ppg are roughly the same as tkafacks reg season ppg.
Oh and hes over a ppg player in the reg season.
Neither him or matthews played well these playoffs. In fact, when it comes to elimination games, am, mm and willie all dont have good numbers.
Trade them all?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:33 AM ET
(frank) right off, you guys haven't won since 1993.... How do the Habs have a fan under 28...

No wonder I can't come here any more...

- bixll


They haven't won the cup but they've had "moments".

It's our 3rd conference finals since 2010. Even without winning it all, there's a buzz, there are victories. There are moments.

In 2001 (I think) an underdog Habs team elminated Joe Thornton and the Bruins who were 1st in the conference. Theodore played out of his mind and we won.

Was at the Bell centre for 2 games of that series, it was amazing. Pretty much solidified my love for that team.


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