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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:24 AM ET
He's played for a far inferior team. I live around Calgary and have watched the majority of their playoff games since Tkachuk came to town, I assure you he's contributed more than Marner has for far less money.
- joel878



He hasn't and he signed for half the term that marner did.

What RFA has ever gotten more than 7 million per for only 3 years? Tkachuk's cap hit is huge.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:24 AM ET
You're overrating 'Intangibles". Tkacuk has been a playoff bust.
- RogerRoeper


You're an idiot. Don't even bother with telling me what I am or aren't doing, there's few people on here who's opinions I could possibly take less seriously.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:24 AM ET
Rielly and another piece for Tkachuk

if Hamilton is a no go.

- senstroll

So 47m on 5 forwards, we lose depth on D and probably are stuck with ahlers and spezza in the bottom 6.

I dont see how any big contract comes in without moving out one if the big 4.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:25 AM ET
I agree Marner was the most underperforming player on the Leafs by miles. Needs to spend some time and effort improving shot and strength. He falls down if someone farts in his direction.
- winsix

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:25 AM ET
You're an idiot. Don't even bother with telling me what I am or aren't doing, there's few people on here who's opinions I could possibly take less seriously.
- joel878



Blah, blah, blah. grit, intangibles...

Remember when we needed gritty vets to take the next level? It's so overrated.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 22 @ 10:25 AM ET
I guess you didnt watch too many flames playoff games, cause tkafack, didnt have too much bite his last series either.
Ive always said, im willing to trade anyone as long as it makes the team better long term.
No proof a marner for tkafack does that

- Fakepartofme


I don't think Marner for Tkachuk is a good deal either. Not for the Leafs. The Flames wouldn't do it anyway. If the Leafs do trade Marner, which I don't believe they will, It should be for a good defenseman IMO. Calgary has Hanafin on a good deal, Hanafin ++ might be ok, would have some irony attached as well.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:26 AM ET
He hasn't and he signed for half the term that marner did.

What RFA has ever gotten more than 7 million per for only 3 years? Tkachuk's cap hit is huge.

- RogerRoeper


Rather have Tkachuk at 7 on a bridge than Marner at 11 for 6 years. Because I don't give a (frank) about term if you have to handicap the entire organization to get it.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 10:26 AM ET
So 47m on 5 forwards, we lose depth on D and probably are stuck with ahlers and spezza in the bottom 6.

I dont see how any big contract comes in without moving out one if the big 4.

- Fakepartofme

unless Hamilton is coming on a decent deal then I don't see the Leafs shaking up their D core at all.

Evaluating the season and playoffs the D core did its job very well. Why shake it up unless you are improving your team by a lot?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:26 AM ET
Leaf fans talk about who gets the cup 1st after winning a playoff game, that’s a major reason why it would wash away pretty quickly when you’re golfing and the playoffs are still on.
- Garnie

Which explains all the hurt now
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 22 @ 10:26 AM ET
So 47m on 5 forwards, we lose depth on D and probably are stuck with ahlers and spezza in the bottom 6.

I dont see how any big contract comes in without moving out one if the big 4.

- Fakepartofme


Also, I think it would take more than just Rielly to get Matt Tkachuk.

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
Rather have Tkachuk at 7 on a bridge than Marner at 11 for 6 years. Because I don't give a (frank) about term if you have to handicap the entire organization to get it.
- joel878


You will give a (frank) about term soon enough. He needs a new contract
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
Pass on Tkachuck.

If there is a Flames forward I want its Lindholm and if he isnt to be had move onto some other teams.

- Santo_44



Flams and Leefs should make a massive deal.
Tkuchuk, Tanev and lindholm for Rielly, Kerfoot and Willy

lets get crazy

joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
Blah, blah, blah. grit, intangibles...

Remember when we needed gritty vets to take the next level? It's so overrated.

- RogerRoeper


You're the one calling them that, dumbass. I'm angling for a more complete player. Yes Thornton and Tkachuk are totally the same thing.

(frank) off and go back to calling leaf sweeps.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
unless Hamilton is coming on a decent deal then I don't see the Leafs shaking up their D core at all.

Evaluating the season and playoffs the D core did its job very well. Why shake it up unless you are improving your team by a lot?

- Santo_44

If you cant re sign morgan on a good deal, id move him out and not let him walk for nothing.
But agreed, i thought our D was the best theyve been in a decade.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:28 AM ET
So 47m on 5 forwards, we lose depth on D and probably are stuck with ahlers and spezza in the bottom 6.

I dont see how any big contract comes in without moving out one if the big 4.

- Fakepartofme

And the no.s say it's Marner, nothing personal.
Mathews and Snake aren't going anywhere and Nylander money isn't enough.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:28 AM ET
You need to decide on Rielly this summer. No more "own rental" crap. it's not working.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 10:28 AM ET
Flams and Leefs should make a massive deal.
Tkuchuk, Tanev and lindholm for Rielly, Kerfoot and Willy

lets get crazy

- senstroll


In modern day hockey that poop never happens.

I'd have no doubt Dubas probably loves Lindholm but so do the Flames probably.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:29 AM ET
No proof a Marner for anybody does that, Mcdavid excluded.
- bobbyisno1

Well unless the player they trade for has great playoff numbers and performances.
Tkafack doesnt really have that
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:30 AM ET
I don't think Marner for Tkachuk is a good deal either. Not for the Leafs. The Flames wouldn't do it anyway. If the Leafs do trade Marner, which I don't believe they will, It should be for a good defenseman IMO. Calgary has Hanafin on a good deal, Hanafin ++ might be ok, would have some irony attached as well.
- winsix


Except Hannifan really sucks. He's "Big" and was a top 5 pick. That's all he has going for him for anyone to think he's good.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 10:31 AM ET
If you cant re sign morgan on a good deal, id move him out and not let him walk for nothing.
But agreed, i thought our D was the best theyve been in a decade.

- Fakepartofme


Its hard to believe that they won't be able to sign Morgan to a decent deal...Whos replacing him? An overpaid UFA?

He is a guy where I bet there is strong mutual interests from both sides to get it done.

Plus he is getting paid 5M this year

I like the D core and its a good core to bring Sandin and Lil into...if they both impress? Great we have a solid top 6 for a few years.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:32 AM ET
Well unless the player they trade for has great playoff numbers and performances.
Tkafack doesnt really have that

- Fakepartofme

Playing for a very good team in Calgary to boot.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 22 @ 10:32 AM ET
You need to decide on Rielly this summer. No more "own rental" crap. it's not working.
- RogerRoeper


Good teams should, Leafs did it when they had almost zero chance of winning even the 1st round.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:32 AM ET
Rather have Tkachuk at 7 on a bridge than Marner at 11 for 6 years. Because I don't give a (frank) about term if you have to handicap the entire organization to get it.
- joel878

Tkafacks is 7m only for one more year. Then its a minimum of 9....which is 1.9 less than mitch....not exactly a big difference.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 22 @ 10:34 AM ET
And the no.s say it's Marner, nothing personal.
Mathews and Snake aren't going anywhere and Nylander money isn't enough.

- bobbyisno1

And im fine with moving out marner.
Just not for tkafack.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 22 @ 10:34 AM ET
I see that we've gone on to our newest new thing
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