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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:18 AM ET
I don't consider them as cheaters but they've already won the cup last year so I just want to see them fail.
- Pat1993

je me rappelle pas que la masse salariale comptait une fois en séries, ce n'est pas nouveau. Ils ont su en profiter cette année c'est tout.

S'ils changent les règlements ça pourrait chier la patente. Tampa aurait pu gagner la coupe 5 ou 6 fois déjà avec cette équipe. Les fans devraient se compter chanceux qu'ils ont choké si souvent.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:18 AM ET
oh is it really 18M over the cap..? tabarnak
- Pat1993


Well it's 18M if you count everything, including players who haven't played a game all year (Gaborik).
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
Weber is the guy they would "rest" for a full season, bring him back healthy for the playoffs and gain over 7M in cap space.
- Symba007


oh 100%. and Habs will absolutely need to add a piece to that defence to get them through the regular season. a guy who can move the puck. there's work to do for this team to get back to the playoffs next year.


Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
je me rappelle pas que la masse salariale comptait une fois en séries, ce n'est pas nouveau. Ils ont su en profiter cette année c'est tout.

S'ils changent les règlements ça pourrait chier la patente. Tampa aurait pu gagner la coupe 5 ou 6 fois déjà avec cette équipe. Les fans devraient se compter chanceux qu'ils ont choké si souvent.

- deadpoulet


it's cool that it doesn't bother you at all, but I think a lot of people would like to see changes going forward, it's getting a bit exaggerated.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 22 @ 9:19 AM ET
Tampa had guys hurt as well

are people really whinining about this?

wow

they have a great team, that's it

- deadpoulet

deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:20 AM ET
Weber is the guy they would "rest" for a full season, bring him back healthy for the playoffs and gain over 7M in cap space.
- Symba007

They don't even play their third pair so I don't think so
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:21 AM ET
i think people are saying that they exploited a significant loophole, the way teams did with 15-year front-loaded deals, and that the loophole should be closed.
- DoubleDown

bingo
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:22 AM ET
oh 100%. and Habs will absolutely need to add a piece to that defence to get them through the regular season. a guy who can move the puck. there's work to do for this team to get back to the playoffs next year.
- DoubleDown


Agreed.

I was hoping that guy could have been Harris.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:22 AM ET
it's cool that it doesn't bother you at all, but I think a lot of people would like to see changes going forward, it's getting a bit exaggerated.
- Pat1993


how do you fix this?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:24 AM ET
Agreed.

I was hoping that guy could have been Harris.

- Scabeh


Anybody close in their system? I don't think so. I think you are mainly hoping that Romanov will be better next season.

Could be a trade or somebody on the market.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:24 AM ET
They don't even play their third pair so I don't think so
- deadpoulet

so they rest Weber for the season and bring him back for the playoffs, use his cap space to sign Hamilton, he plays the full season, replacing Weber and boom, come playoffs time you have this group

Weber (6'4)
Petry (6'3)
Hamilton (6'6)
Edm (6'4)
Chariot (6'3)
Romy (6')
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:25 AM ET
how do you fix this?
- deadpoulet


I'm no capologist, but why wouldn't there be some form of cap restriction for the playoffs as well, to avoid having huge discrepancies with the regular season? it isn't that complicated
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:28 AM ET
so they rest Weber for the season and bring him back for the playoffs, use his cap space to sign Hamilton, he plays the full season, replacing Weber and boom, come playoffs time you have this group

Weber (6'4)
Petry (6'3)
Hamilton (6'6)
Edm (6'4)
Chariot (6'3)
Romy (6')

- Symba007


if Weber is having any type of surgery this offseason 100% he should sit out till well into 2022.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:29 AM ET
https://www.si.com/hockey...icted-free-agents-of-2021

Dougie Hamilton is the obvious pick unless you think Barrie is still an option.

Otherwise would need to know more about the trade market.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 22 @ 9:29 AM ET

- Takemedrunkimhome

Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 22 @ 9:32 AM ET
I'm no capologist, but why wouldn't there be some form of cap restriction for the playoffs as well, to avoid having huge discrepancies with the regular season? it isn't that complicated
- Pat1993

Your salary is paid strictly for regular season play therefore putting a salary cap on the playoff roster is antithetical to the whole idea
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 22 @ 9:33 AM ET
Your salary is paid strictly for regular season play therefore putting a salary cap on the playoff roster is antithetical to the whole idea
- Takemedrunkimhome

another great word.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:35 AM ET

- Takemedrunkimhome



Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:36 AM ET
Your salary is paid strictly for regular season play therefore putting a salary cap on the playoff roster is antithetical to the whole idea
- Takemedrunkimhome



how is it "antithetical" to eliminate the possibility for teams to exaggerate and take advantage of the situation?
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 22 @ 9:37 AM ET
another great word.
- kicksave856

Floyd Mayweather is a billionaire who reads at a sub 4th grade level. I'd trade my words for his money pretty quick
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:39 AM ET
Anybody close in their system? I don't think so. I think you are mainly hoping that Romanov will be better next season.

Could be a trade or somebody on the market.

- deadpoulet

Seth Johnes is on the market.
Colorado might trade one of the young puck moving guys they have to add some size. So basically Girard for Edmunson is a done deal
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jun 22 @ 9:40 AM ET
morning miscreants.

just win baby.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jun 22 @ 9:40 AM ET
Seth Johnes is on the market.
Colorado might trade one of the young puck moving guys they have to add some size. So basically Girard for Edmunson is a done deal

- Fredobbface

girard suck, tho
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:41 AM ET
morning miscreants.

just win baby.

- Gramps28



Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 22 @ 9:41 AM ET
how is it "antithetical" to eliminate the possibility for teams to exaggerate and take advantage of the situation?
- Pat1993

You need to do it another way or change how salary is paid. Every penny of a player's salary is paid strictly for regular season play. Playoffs is just bonus money (which if in a contract for things like winning titles or Conn's need to be included in salary cap either the season they are earned or carried over to the next year). As such you can't penalize a team in the playoffs for theoretically being over a cap that doesn't exist in the playoffs
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