What makes you like Coleman so much?
- Feds91Stammer

I know. Reminds me of a tanev but less tanevy.

Curious why you feel that way. I haven't really read anything that indicates who they might be looking at.
- Tojo.

I dunno. I think GMJR has that infatuation with bringing players back. Maybe they do have interest in him. My comment was more based on GMJR probably being more interested than the current regime.

I know. Reminds me of a tanev but less tanevy.
- 10inchTerror

He's better than Tanev and he hits harder than Tanev FWIW.

I am so tired of Jarry being such a scapegoat for a bad defense. Did he make mistakes and have a bad playoff? Yes, absolutely. But I don't see St. Louis looking to get rid of Binnington after a bad playoff (0-4, 3.59 GAA, .889%). Jarry was not good, but let's quit giving guys like Letang and Dumo a pass just because of their name. The defense did nothing to help out the goalie. And guess what, Casey DeSmith would not have made any difference in this series either.
So who should they get? Grubauer? His numbers were a little better than Jarry, but not substantial. Since you love save% and GAA, how about we go get Craig Anderson since he had a .929 save % and 2.68 GAA against Boston. Boy that sounds like a great plan
- Zig44

Games 1, 5 and 6 the Isles only had 6, 4 and 5 high danger chances respectively at 5 on 5 vs Jarry. Jarry lost all 3 of those games. Blaming Letang, who had 6 points in 6 games, and Dumo is f'n hilarious

I am so tired of Jarry being such a scapegoat for a bad defense. Did he make mistakes and have a bad playoff? Yes, absolutely. But I don't see St. Louis looking to get rid of Binnington after a bad playoff (0-4, 3.59 GAA, .889%). Jarry was not good, but let's quit giving guys like Letang and Dumo a pass just because of their name. The defense did nothing to help out the goalie. And guess what, Casey DeSmith would not have made any difference in this series either.
So who should they get? Grubauer? His numbers were a little better than Jarry, but not substantial. Since you love save% and GAA, how about we go get Craig Anderson since he had a .929 save % and 2.68 GAA against Boston. Boy that sounds like a great plan
- Zig44

Incorrect.

What's tiring to me is the narrative of the Pens play the past few post seasons being lazily applied to this most recent one haha

What's tiring to me is the narrative of the Pens play the past few post seasons being lazily applied to this most recent one haha
- MattStrat

There's very little to complain about with how they played against NYI this year. There's a couple of things I would have liked to see them do differently, but not much.

The last two? That narrative applies.

There's very little to complain about with how they played against NYI this year. There's a couple of things I would have liked to see them do differently, but not much.

The last two? That narrative applies.
- Rinosaur

Agreed...and the one before those two they legit lost steam in 2nd round vs Caps. Had done two cups in a row the two years before. Gassed.

I dunno. I think GMJR has that infatuation with bringing players back. Maybe they do have interest in him. My comment was more based on GMJR probably being more interested than the current regime.
- j.boyd919

Gotcha thanks. I agree on the GMJR end.

If Vegas moves Fleury I can see the Pens getting him at a discount similar to how we traded Phil. Vegas may want to "do right by him" and he can block 10 teams which for a goalie is a lot.

Don't know if Burke and Hextall would be interested. Hopefully they are planning to do something.

Gotcha thanks. I agree on the GMJR end.

If Vegas moves Fleury I can see the Pens getting him at a discount similar to how we traded Phil. Vegas may want to "do right by him" and he can block 10 teams which for a goalie is a lot.

Don't know if Burke and Hextall would be interested. Hopefully they are planning to do something.
- Tojo.

I think it was you that something to the effect of you dont want to wait all season to see how Jarry/DeSmith look in the playoffs...I certainly don't. I just cant seem them wanting the same due all season again...

I think the flat cap is going to curb a lot of overpaying and I think teams will be more willing to go for term to make up for the money.

I think $4M is the ceiling on what teams would give him.
- Rinosaur

Yeah I’m just not sure if the solution is giving middle 6 guys term and money.

Yeah I’m just not sure if the solution is giving middle 6 guys term and money.
- Feds91Stammer

If the Pens can sign Coleman for low $3Mish for four or five years, I think you have to at this point. They don't have the luxury of trading for guys like this.

EDIT: Obviously if you could trade Pettersson to get this kind of player, you do, but that's much easier said than done.

If the Pens can sign Coleman for low $3Mish for four or five years, I think you have to at this point. They don't have the luxury of trading for guys like this.

EDIT: Obviously if you could trade Pettersson to get this kind of player, you do, but that's much easier said than done.
- Rinosaur

Pens are gonna have a hard time moving contracts imo and they are screwed if Seattle doesn’t take Zucker.

I think an MAF homecoming seems to make the most sense in terms of team situations. If Lehner keeps this going there really is no reason for the Knights to keep Fleury.

Ideally there would be a three-team-trade to lower his cap hit to less than 50% of what it is now, but that would be a costly magic act.

Just to get Vegas to retain 50% would probably cost quite a bit.

Can we get off the Fleury thing already?
1) Fleury isnt coming back
2) Do you really want Fleury giving up the softest goal at the worst possible time like he did in game 3 vs Montreal? Or did so frequently with us.

Why would we give up anything to Vegas to get him?
We dont have futures to give
We cant give up players of value off our current roster. THIS IS NOT A FIT

Pens are gonna have a hard time moving contracts imo and they are screwed if Seattle doesn’t take Zucker.
- Feds91Stammer

Most definitely. I think most teams are waiting until after the expansion draft to really figure things out. That will be the most telling about what they'll all be able to do.

Contracts in order of difficulty to move:
Pettersson
Zucker
Matheson

Although I don't think Pettersson's will be that hard to move.

He's better than Tanev and he hits harder than Tanev FWIW.


- Rinosaur

You can't quantify what Tanev brings with fancy stats.

You can't quantify what Tanev brings with fancy stats.
- j.boyd919

That's a huge oversimplification of what I actually said.

Most definitely. I think most teams are waiting until after the expansion draft to really figure things out. That will be the most telling about what they'll all be able to do.

Contracts in order of difficulty to move:
Pettersson
Zucker
Matheson

Although I don't think Pettersson's will be that hard to move.
- Rinosaur

Gonna be hard to move anybody unless it’s money in money out.

That's a huge oversimplification of what I actually said.
- Rinosaur

Is it though? Lol

Is it though? Lol
- j.boyd919

100%

I specifically said you can't quantify everything that he brings with analytics.

Gonna be hard to move anybody unless it’s money in money out.
- Feds91Stammer

Nobody said it is going to be easy. I've said all along that the Pens need to hope they can move out players just to keep what they have before filling in the holes.

There's very little to complain about with how they played against NYI this year. There's a couple of things I would have liked to see them do differently, but not much.

The last two? That narrative applies.
- Rinosaur

I agree. The Pens 18 skaters outplayed the Isles 18 skaters. But Jarry wasn’t great and Sorokin was incredible. There is no where the Islanders are in the conference finals right now without the play of Sorokin. Jarry made a few mistakes but to blame him and be as hard on him as this blogger is? I think it’s a little unfair.

Would you guys be interested in a trade for Varlamov? I think the Islanders will have to pay Sorokin at the end of the season and it’s senseless to carry 2 goalies that are both really good and making decent money.

Would you guys be interested in a trade for Varlamov? I think the Islanders will have to pay Sorokin at the end of the season and it’s senseless to carry 2 goalies that are both really good and making decent money.
- BringNYIhome

There would have to be some serious retention on Varly for it work for the Pens cap situation.

Can we get off the Fleury thing already?
1) Fleury isnt coming back
2) Do you really want Fleury giving up the softest goal at the worst possible time like he did in game 3 vs Montreal? Or did so frequently with us.

Why would we give up anything to Vegas to get him?
We dont have futures to give
We cant give up players of value off our current roster. THIS IS NOT A FIT
- Amanion

You're right. Getting a Vezina trophy finalist with a sub 2 GAA would be a horrible idea.