Don't disagree with the list of 20-25. Marner has a NTC meaning he would only be willing to go to teams on that list. That's only one limiting factor. Doubt very much that the Leafs would trade their top scorer for futures even if he was a bag of sh!t in the playoffs. So Garnier : Name a player of equal value that Marner could be traded for? Again wanting to trade for Marner does not equate to being able to trade for Marner. - winsix
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Jun 22 @ 3:54 PM ET
Can you quantify what "winning a trade" with Marner means? You mean, getting the single best player in the deal? - mjones242
Yes getting the best player in a trade means winning a trade to me. For example in 1992 when Toronto made that trade with Calgary, Gilmour was hands down the best player in the deal. The Leafs actually got Jamie Macoun - the second best player in the deal. Leafs fleeced the Flames, trading Leeman (who was rumored to be plooking Iafrate's wife) and a plug named Craig Berube.
Its a little different in the cap era though, winning a trade also involves moving salaries. Because Marner is the second highest paid winger in hockey trading a winger to Toronto of equal value would probably mean Toronto either eats salary or takes back a bad contract. Likley a losing deal as well. Much harder to evalutate if Marner were to be traded for a d-man though.
It summer talk though, doubt very much Marner is moved.
My proposed idea was this (and yes I know, it will never happen or work but)
3 way trade.
Chi trades J Toews to team B and retains 40% of salary.
Team B trades J Toews to Leafs while team B retains 40% of remaining salary.
Leafs trade whatever to either team and Team b trades whatever to Chi.
Boom....a playoff warrior.
If he's healthy of course.
Or sign OV. - Fakepartofme
I'd do it if he was healthy but I'd prefer Patty Kane tbh. Or Tarasenko.
Think its a creative way to add a difference maker.
Detroit would be all over it for 2 years of cap space.
Kane and Toews are interesting because their actual salaries are so low...Det would be adding cap but a low amount of actual dollars.
50% of their caps are 2.2M a season
Which could probably be sold for a 2nd(TOR) and a 3rd(CHI)
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Jun 22 @ 3:57 PM ET
Yes getting the best player in a trade means winning a trade to me. For example in 1992 when Toronto made that trade with Calgary, Gilmour was hands down the best player in the deal. The Leafs actually got Jamie Macoun - the second best player in the deal. Leafs fleeced the Flames, trading Leeman (who was rumored to be plooking Iafrate's wife) and a plug named Craig Berube.
Its a little different in the cap era though, winning a trade also involves moving salaries. Because Marner is the second highest paid winger in hockey trading a winger to Toronto of equal value would probably mean Toronto either eats salary or takes back a bad contract. Likley a losing deal as well. Much harder to evalutate if Marner were to be traded for a d-man though.
It summer talk though, doubt very much Marner is moved. - winsix
We got lucky on that.. Gilmour wanted out of Calgary, because they didn't treat him very well..
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Jun 22 @ 3:59 PM ET
I'd do it if he was healthy but I'd prefer Patty Kane tbh. Or Tarasenko.
Think its a creative way to add a difference maker.
Detroit would be all over it for 2 years of cap space.
Kane and Toews are interesting because their actual salaries are so low...Det would be adding cap but a low amount of actual dollars.
50% of their caps are 2.2M a season - Santo_44
Tarasenko is a good option.. I wonder if we can put him on LTIR even though he'll be healthy and just bring him back for the playoffs.. The Tampa method if you will.
Tarasenko is a good option.. I wonder if we can put him on LTIR even though he'll be healthy and just bring him back for the playoffs.. The Tampa method if you will. - PatC80
Tarasenko is a gamble with his injuries.
Kane would be an amazing move. Would cost a boat load though.
He is a guy that has passion for winning..CHI isnt winning anytime soon.
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Jun 22 @ 4:03 PM ET
Yes getting the best player in a trade means winning a trade to me. For example in 1992 when Toronto made that trade with Calgary, Gilmour was hands down the best player in the deal. The Leafs actually got Jamie Macoun - the second best player in the deal. Leafs fleeced the Flames, trading Leeman (who was rumored to be plooking Iafrate's wife) and a plug named Craig Berube.
Its a little different in the cap era though, winning a trade also involves moving salaries. Because Marner is the second highest paid winger in hockey trading a winger to Toronto of equal value would probably mean Toronto either eats salary or takes back a bad contract. Likley a losing deal as well. Much harder to evalutate if Marner were to be traded for a d-man though.
It summer talk though, doubt very much Marner is moved. - winsix
Those types of Cliff Fletcher deals aren't really a thing anymore. I mean, outside of some Chiarelli bungling, not many teams get fleeced in this era.
If the Leafs aren't getting the best player in the deal but they come out with massive cap flexibility and some other valuable assets (1st rounders, blue chip prospects) I think you can see a "win-win" possibility.
Cap flexibility means you can go after a guy like Landeskog and/or Hamilton. A picks and prospects package (coupled with a player with some salary coming back) gives you assets to work with to acquire other key ingredients.
VGK, NYI, and the Habs are making a clear case that you don't need to have a Top 5 regular season point leader to make a deep run of it. I don't see why Mitch Marner should be untouchable.
I don't think he'll get moved either... but there's a chance, especially if Mitch reads these boards and gets butthurt. To which I say: I'm doing my part.