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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 22 @ 4:12 PM ET
Spending half the cap on 4 forwards has worked well for us so far, might as well continue to do so.
- Steven_Seagull


People don't want to be bothered to factor in the impact of the cap on every roster decision that is made. Multiple teams are looking to move salary off the books. As difficult as it might be for the Leafs, Tampa, Winnipeg, Islanders and others are in worse shape.

This is the main reason that this is not a good time to try and move Marner. Marner is a great young player. Best to do nothing at this time.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 22 @ 4:12 PM ET
He is only owed 8.8M in his final 2 years.

DET has 45M in cap space.

DET will buy for cap space.

50% is only 2.2M a year for 2 years. Dubas bought 4,250,000M in cap space over 1 year a few years ago. 4.4M over 2 years is nothing.

For me the E Karlsonn trade is comparable.

- Santo_44

After Yzerman re-signs his RFA's and a few UFA's it'll be more like $15 mil in cap space.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:13 PM ET
50% of that is 5.25M
- Santo_44


yeah, so the Hawks retain 50% of Kane's salary and we only have to give them Mikheyev and Engvall?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 4:13 PM ET
After Yzerman re-signs his RFA's it'll be more like $15 mil in cap space.
- gergeswillems

Yeah that's still a (frank) load
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 4:13 PM ET
that settles it... Marner for Kane, Dach, Lankinen and Boqvist
- PatC80

Just keep seeing him repeat that Marner is 23. He's not.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 4:13 PM ET
yeah, so the Hawks retain 50% of Kane's salary and we only have to give them Mikheyev and Engvall?
- PatC80

Detroit does.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 22 @ 4:13 PM ET
yeah, so the Hawks retain 50% of Kane's salary and we only have to give them Mikheyev and Engvall?
- PatC80

Only if Chiarelli replaces Bowman as Chicago GM.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 22 @ 4:14 PM ET
People don't want to be bothered to factor in the impact of the cap on every roster decision that is made. Multiple teams are looking to move salary off the books. As difficult as it might be for the Leafs, Tampa, Winnipeg, Islanders and others are in worse shape.

This is the main reason that this is not a good time to try and move Marner. Marner is a great young player. Best to do nothing at this time.

- spatso



They should at least consider trading him.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 22 @ 4:14 PM ET
That is pretty insane.
- mjones242


they're still pissy about (a) the offer sheet that cost them $28 million in one year and (b) jumping ship to sign with the Ducks.
Horsey Sauce
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.13.2021

Jun 22 @ 4:14 PM ET
People don't want to be bothered to factor in the impact of the cap on every roster decision that is made. Multiple teams are looking to move salary off the books. As difficult as it might be for the Leafs, Tampa, Winnipeg, Islanders and others are in worse shape.

This is the main reason that this is not a good time to try and move Marner. Marner is a great young player. Best to do nothing at this time.

- spatso

Agreed.

Move Nylander for some new PK’ers and a top 4D.

Also trade Campbell while is stock is high.
Horsey Sauce
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.13.2021

Jun 22 @ 4:15 PM ET
They should at least consider trading him.
- Steven_Seagull

Marner and Nylander for Makar and kadri.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 22 @ 4:15 PM ET
they're still pissy about (a) the offer sheet that cost them $28 million in one year and (b) jumping ship to sign with the Ducks.
- BINGO!

So, so dumb.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:15 PM ET
Only if Chiarelli replaces Bowman as Chicago GM.
- gergeswillems



I can see it happening;

Chiarelli to Chicago media: I made that trade because I really like the letter 'V'
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:16 PM ET
Detroit does.
- Santo_44



Who cares about Detroit?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 4:16 PM ET
Who cares about Detroit?
- PatC80

Detroit retains the cap for them for some value
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:17 PM ET
they're still pissy about (a) the offer sheet that cost them $28 million in one year and (b) jumping ship to sign with the Ducks.
- BINGO!



Pretty sure he signed with Anaheim because they offered him more money
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 22 @ 4:17 PM ET
People don't want to be bothered to factor in the impact of the cap on every roster decision that is made. Multiple teams are looking to move salary off the books. As difficult as it might be for the Leafs, Tampa, Winnipeg, Islanders and others are in worse shape.

This is the main reason that this is not a good time to try and move Marner. Marner is a great young player. Best to do nothing at this time.

- spatso


And 80 million in additional league cap space is being added this year with Seattle.

There are teams with a literal (frank) ton of cap space but little actual cash. Marner wouldn't be difficult to move after July 01.

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 22 @ 4:18 PM ET
Who cares about Detroit?
- PatC80

BINGO! They've been renting space for free in his head since 2002.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 22 @ 4:19 PM ET
And 80 million in additional league cap space is being added this year with Seattle.

There are teams with a literal (frank) ton of cap space but little actual cash. Marner wouldn't be difficult to move after July 01.

- Leafs43


The cap isn’t going up this year.
Horsey Sauce
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.13.2021

Jun 22 @ 4:19 PM ET
The cap isn’t going up this year.
- Canada Cup

Everyone just shoots from the hip in here lol.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 22 @ 4:19 PM ET
The cap isn’t going up this year.
- Canada Cup


Put your glasses on and read what I wrote again.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:20 PM ET
BINGO! They've been renting space for free in his head since 2002.
- gergeswillems



No, I get it..

Yzerman will agree to retain 50% of Patrick Kane's cap, if we give Engvall and Mikheyev to Detroit
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 22 @ 4:21 PM ET
No, I get it..

Yzerman will agree to retain 50% of Patrick Kane's cap, if we give Engvall and Mikheyev to Detroit

- PatC80


I’d look at comparables for buying teams to take 4.4 M dollars
Horsey Sauce
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.13.2021

Jun 22 @ 4:22 PM ET
Put your glasses on and read what I wrote again.
- Leafs43

Senior burn, nice.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 22 @ 4:22 PM ET
Put your glasses on and read what I wrote again.
- Leafs43


Gotcha
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