one thing Dubas was able to do was stabalize the D...look at this from mitchy signing day
- senstroll

People used to be super angry about the d on here

Gotta switch over the anger to something else now right

if anyone is interested, here is the HB thread when Mitchy signed..to see how you reacted.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=161843&page=2

showing receipts, here is my first post
- senstroll

The cup was glorious too. 🥰🤣

Agree to disagree?
- PatC80

Go back to the draft reports.

Kopitar was his ceiling.

All the crap being directed at Marner and his contract is identical to our history here on Willy. As its turned out maybe Nylander has a great contract for what he puts up. Maybe we were wrong.

I wonder if we might be wrong about Marner also.

I'm not going to repost what I said on page 8, but I think I nailed it:

https://hockeybuzz.com/bo...p?thread_id=161843&page=8
- Atomic Wedgie

Made me cringe…a lot.

if anyone is interested, here is the HB thread when Mitchy signed..to see how you reacted.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=161843&page=2

showing receipts, here is my first post
- senstroll

Lol nice find.

I was on point


Fakepartofme
Sep 13 @ 7:17 PM ET
Told ya he would sign
Too much

But whatever.

Stfu everyone

All the crap being directed at Marner and his contract is identical to our history here on Willy. As its turned out maybe Nylander has a great contract for what he puts up. Maybe we were wrong.

I wonder if we might be wrong about Marner also.
- shack67

Marner is not worth his contract.

Go back to the draft reports.

Kopitar was his ceiling.
- Santo_44

Just go ahead and google 'auston Matthews draft reports' and click on literally any of the articles that come up. It will take you about 10-15 seconds to realize you have no idea what you're talking about whatsoever.

Meh, not much to see there, looks like most people thought it was a bit much but hopeful he could live up to it. Pretty similar to what it is now except he hasn't lived up to it playoff wise. Generally just happy that he would be back for the season.
- 13sundin13

Would have been manageable if Cap had continued to grow. Bad luck for Leafs to have handed out their big contracts just before pandemic but leafy as usual

People used to be super angry about the d on here

Gotta switch over the anger to something else now right
- Santo_44

seeing dermot, lil and Sandin penciled in the lineup back then and not even being fulltime now,,is wild to see

All the crap being directed at Marner and his contract is identical to our history here on Willy. As its turned out maybe Nylander has a great contract for what he puts up. Maybe we were wrong.

I wonder if we might be wrong about Marner also.
- shack67

As I posted earlier, when Marner sign it was expected the cap would go up each year.
It should now be around 87...but covid.

As I posted earlier, when Marner sign it was expected the cap would go up each year.
It should now be around 87...but covid.
- Fakepartofme

The future changed, the plans also have to change. Trade Marner.

Your math is slightly off, as Marner did receive $850,000 per year X 3 years in performance bonuses throughout his ELC.

https://www.capfriendly.c...m/players/mitchell-marner
- Atomic Wedgie

aren't there different levels of bonus an entry level deal could have?

I think Marner got a lower level bonus plan

All the crap being directed at Marner and his contract is identical to our history here on Willy. As its turned out maybe Nylander has a great contract for what he puts up. Maybe we were wrong.

I wonder if we might be wrong about Marner also.
- shack67

Marner just needed to take 9.5 (6-8 years) and nobody says a word about him..its viewed as a hometown discount and we all love him forever.

As I posted earlier, when Marner sign it was expected the cap would go up each year.
It should now be around 87...but covid.
- Fakepartofme

And that’s why you never pay for work before it’s down. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Marner just needed to take 9.5 (6-8 years) and nobody says a word about him..its viewed as a hometown discount and we all love him forever.
- senstroll

Instead now he got traded for Connor Brown.

Marner is not worth his contract.
- Steven_Seagull

Is that all that matters now? That’s what alot of people said about Willy. Most teams would jump at the chance to get Marner, he would be worth it to them.

Fourth in league scoring and kills penalties. But he had a bad playoff so he’s garbage.

Instead now he got traded for Connor Brown.


- Garnie

IF they pay the bonus, Melnyk will think about it

Matthews should have been 8 years

Marner shouldn’t got any more then $9

Nylander while sitting at home eating bon bons and playing video games should have been shipped to Calgary for Doogie.


We could be arguing why we lost to Winnipeg instead of the Habs. 😬

Rielly is not as good as the Toronto media build him up to be. Also he becomes a UFA at the end of next season and with him wanting a big raise not to many teams will give up much for him.

The future changed, the plans also have to change. Trade Marner.
- Steven_Seagull

You loved the deal when it occurred.

Is that all that matters now? That’s what alot of people said about Willy. Most teams would jump at the chance to get Marner, he would be worth it to them.

Fourth in league scoring and kills penalties. But he had a bad playoff so he’s garbage.
- shack67

multiple bad playoffs*

He’s only had 1 good one.

Rielly is not as good as the Toronto media build him up to be. Also he becomes a UFA at the end of next season and with him wanting a big raise not to many teams will give up much for him.
- islansjet

Unless he gets 8mil...what is a "big raise?" He's a 6-6.5mil defender and should get that. He's been underpaid for a large portion of his deal.

Marner just needed to take 9.5 (6-8 years) and nobody says a word about him..its viewed as a hometown discount and we all love him forever.
- senstroll

I don't even think it's viewed as hometown discount at that point, he's paid on par with what he should be paid at 9.5.

Instead he's viewed as the guy who viewed raping the team for every penny as more important than taking a fair market deal and trying to bring a cup home.

Marner just needed to take 9.5 (6-8 years) and nobody says a word about him..its viewed as a hometown discount and we all love him forever.
- senstroll

You wonder if he could go back right now and change is contract to something like that if he would.

He would probably be feeling less pressure.