I agree with the sentiment, but way easier said than done. Tell me what trade scenario is possible in which Leafs win a trade involving Marner at this moment?
- winsix

A+

Leafs can't win a trade because so few teams are positioned to absorb a $10m. hit unless they can send back equal salary. Hot market requires competitive bidders. Who are the two teams willing to go all in on Marner...?

A+

Leafs can't win a trade because so few teams are positioned to absorb a $10m. Hot market requires competitive bidders. Who are the two teams willing to go all in on Marner...?
- spatso

Who wouldn’t be is probably the easier list.

Tampa Bay?

End list?

My 2nd post of that day was about 14 pages after my first post.
I nailed it as well.


Sep 14 @ 12:30 PM ET
Nylander is a bargain
- Santo_44

Nah, hes paid what a 60 - 65 pt player should be.
90 plus players get paid.
It is what it is.
- Fakepartofme
- Fakepartofme

The contract doesn't make a player a bargain. The player makes the contract a bargain by putting up numbers and putting out effort. Pastrnak did, Rantanen did, Point did, Nylander did as well although not at the level of the first 3. Marner did not!

Who wouldn’t be is probably the easier list.

Tampa Bay?

End list?
- Garnie

Look on capfreindly, find the teams with the ability to absorb $8m or more in a trade. Only about 8 teams and we have about 20 teams trying to move players in order to reduce their cap hit.

A+

Leafs can't win a trade because so few teams are positioned to absorb a $10m. hit unless they can send back equal salary. Hot market requires competitive bidders. Who are the two teams willing to go all in on Marner...?
- spatso

you contradict yourself over and over.

winning the trade might be as simple as getting some cap flexibility that allows them to add some different players and they manage to win some playoff rounds.

I am not saying thats what they should do...but they may not have to trade Marner for Point to "win" a trade

A+

Leafs can't win a trade because so few teams are positioned to absorb a $10m. hit unless they can send back equal salary. Hot market requires competitive bidders. Who are the two teams willing to go all in on Marner...?
- spatso

Your like a bad version of Fred Durst.....

on a positive note

springer is back. Lets hope its for the rest of the season

you contradict yourself over and over.

winning the trade might be as simple as getting some cap flexibility that allows them to add some different players and they manage to win some playoff rounds.

I am not saying thats what they should do...but they may not have to trade Marner for Point to "win" a trade
- senstroll

I agree. But I think Marner still has growth in his game and the Leafs will regret giving him up.

But in a hypothetical deal where the Leafs give up Marner in order to acquire Connor Brown and sign a top Dman (Hamilton). It is about as good as they can do.

I agree with the sentiment, but way easier said than done. Tell me what trade scenario is possible in which Leafs win a trade involving Marner at this moment?
- winsix

Can you quantify what "winning a trade" with Marner means? You mean, getting the single best player in the deal?

LA or Anehiem almost retained cap for 2 years of Fleury for Pitt last offseason.

Think Dubas adds a forward this way.

Hard sell? It would be Chabot + or go (frank) yourself.

20-25 teams in the league would move pieces to make room for Marner.
- Garnie

Don't disagree with the list of 20-25. Marner has a NTC meaning he would only be willing to go to teams on that list. That's only one limiting factor. Doubt very much that the Leafs would trade their top scorer for futures even if he was a bag of sh!t in the playoffs. So Garnier : Name a player of equal value that Marner could be traded for? Again wanting to trade for Marner does not equate to being able to trade for Marner.

Look on capfreindly, find the teams with the ability to absorb $8m or more in a trade. Only about 8 teams and we have about 20 teams trying to move players in order to reduce their cap hit.
- spatso

Give me a list of teams that absolutely could not absorb Marner's cap hit.

Don't disagree with the list of 20-25. Marner has a NTC meaning he would only be willing to go to teams on that list. That's only one limiting factor. Doubt very much that the Leafs would trade their top scorer for futures even if he was a bag of sh!t in the playoffs. So Garnier : Name a player of equal value that Marner could be traded for? Again wanting to trade for Marner does not equate to being able to trade for Marner.
- winsix

Marner's NMC doesn't kick in for a couple more seasons.

Look on capfreindly, find the teams with the ability to absorb $8m or more in a trade. Only about 8 teams and we have about 20 teams trying to move players in order to reduce their cap hit.
- spatso

If they want him bad enough they’ll find a way.

Unless your goalie is Vesa Toskala, amirite?
- PatC80

Lol he could get scored against on home ice from the other team's building

I agree. But I think Marner still has growth in his game and the Leafs will regret giving him up.

But in a hypothetical deal where the Leafs give up Marner in order to acquire Connor Brown and sign a top Dman (Hamilton). It is about as good as they can do.
- spatso

there would be many better offers than conor Brown.
and they dont need to trade a pick for Hamilton, if he goes UFA, he is free.

you dont move him unless its for a huge haul back... and no thats not conor brown

Your like a bad version of Fred Durst.....



- Cush29

Wow that's (frank)ing harsh

Don't disagree with the list of 20-25. Marner has a NTC meaning he would only be willing to go to teams on that list. That's only one limiting factor. Doubt very much that the Leafs would trade their top scorer for futures even if he was a bag of sh!t in the playoffs. So Garnier : Name a player of equal value that Marner could be traded for? Again wanting to trade for Marner does not equate to being able to trade for Marner.
- winsix

I don’t wanna trade him, but I’m sure the teams would be lined up if he was up for grabs.

Get a lesser player with a way smaller cap and picks may be what Dubious Dubas wants so he can sign Hamllton...just an example.

Give me a list of teams that absolutely could not absorb Marner's cap hit.
- mjones242

Maple Leafs, Toronto.. That is all

Hard sell? It would be Chabot + or go (frank) yourself.

20-25 teams in the league would move pieces to make room for Marner.
- Garnie

Marner for Bertuzzi, Fabbri, Caps 1st, Rangers 2nd?

Marner for Bertuzzi, Fabbri, Caps 1st, Rangers 2nd?
- gergeswillems

what is this crap
did you not see that conor brown is on the table?

what is this crap
did you not see that conor brown is on the table?
- senstroll

🤣

LA or Anehiem almost retained cap for 2 years of Fleury for Pitt last offseason.

Think Dubas adds a forward this way.
- Santo_44

My proposed idea was this (and yes I know, it will never happen or work but)
3 way trade.
Chi trades J Toews to team B and retains 40% of salary.
Team B trades J Toews to Leafs while team B retains 40% of remaining salary.
Leafs trade whatever to either team and Team b trades whatever to Chi.

Boom....a playoff warrior.
If he's healthy of course.



Or sign OV.

there would be many better offers than conor Brown.
and they dont need to trade a pick for Hamilton, if he goes UFA, he is free.

you dont move him unless its for a huge haul back... and no thats not conor brown
- senstroll

Yes I suppose that is possible. I picked Connor Brown because his salary is under $4m and he scored more goals than Marner. And, I assume the Leafs need the difference in salaries to be able to sign an elite Dman in the $8m range plus a reliable goalie, perhaps another $4m.

The math on this is not easy.

Marner for Bertuzzi, Fabbri, Caps 1st, Rangers 2nd?
- gergeswillems

Bertuzzi, Fabbri and Moritz Seider, Caps 1st.