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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 11:52 PM ET
Honestly, I don't think there's too much to do? They went to the Finals then Conf. Finals and now in the Conf. Finals again?

They're pretty tight to the cap with a couple RFAs to sign. Think it will be much the same team next year, which isn't a bad thing. The pieces are there, guys just need to get over the hump

- NewYorkNuck

They just choke when a good defensive team plays them.
bloatedhefty
Location: Fat Like a Goalie
Joined: 04.19.2017

Jun 22 @ 11:53 PM ET
Truth 👍👍
- Nighthawk


I still think Vegas’ smartest expansion draft move was to secure MAF. It instantly made them competitive.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 11:53 PM ET
I'd love to but according to my book we've already taken measurements. For the record, you're tied for 2nd with 356 other guys. I won in case you're wondering.
- golfingsince

Oh ok I thought I was in 2nd alone & everyone else was tied for 1st.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 11:54 PM ET
I still think Vegas’ smartest expansion draft move was to secure MAF. It instantly made them competitive.
- bloatedhefty

Gifted by the Pens. No brainer
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 11:55 PM ET
And that’s why you build from the goaltender out. IMO, it’s the most sensible way to build a consistently competitive franchise.
- bloatedhefty

But here's the conundrum: if you build from the goalie out, do you acquire the goalie through signing/trade or through draft.

If through trade/signing, the team already has to be competitive or close. If through draft, you don't know what you have for 3-5 seasons. So do you draft multiple goalies?

I like the build from D out but still employ BPA at the draft (been discussed to death.). Draft goalies but it's too difficult to rely on one to base your rebuild around.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jun 22 @ 11:55 PM ET
Good on the Habs, suck it Riccio 😝
Saying they were done after last game.

That's why they play the games...
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 11:56 PM ET
Oh ok I thought I was in 2nd alone & everyone else was tied for 1st.
- Nighthawk

I thought of spreading the news that way but I figured it was just mean. That's why I made you tied for last!! Congrats!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 11:57 PM ET
But here's the conundrum: if you build from the goalie out, do you acquire the goalie through signing/trade or through draft.

If through trade/signing, the team already has to be competitive or close. If through draft, you don't know what you have for 3-5 seasons. So do you draft multiple goalies?

I like the build from D out but still employ BPA at the draft (been discussed to death.). Draft goalies but it's too difficult to rely on one to base your rebuild around.

- RealityChecker

Goalies are found & developed & need not be 1st rounders. Elite C’s & top RHD are gold. Wingers & LHD are the easiest pieces to get.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 22 @ 11:57 PM ET
And that’s why you build from the goaltender out. IMO, it’s the most sensible way to build a consistently competitive franchise.
- bloatedhefty


That's why Ian Clark was the only returning Coach to get term.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jun 22 @ 11:59 PM ET
GmJB should blow all our minds and trade up into the top 3 and then turnaround and trade down a few picks with another team , and still get his guy😃
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 11:59 PM ET
You are Kelly McCrimmon. What do you do now?

Not joking. what would you do to Vegas?

- manvanfan

Is it too late to trade for Lucic so he can run Price?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:00 AM ET
Who's trying?

You've got this thing going where you're some kind of elite drafter. I have a book that says otherwise.

Actually, according to my book you're just another knob on hockeybuzz like the rest of us.

Apparently living in Winnipeg doesn't grant you special status.

- golfingsince

Well, I don't live in Wpg.

At no point have I said I'm an elite drafter. That's just made up BS once again. Probably a joke that was told by Ruby and you believed like an idiot.

If you got a book. Lets see my results. I would honestly like to know. My own records are poor at best.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 23 @ 12:00 AM ET
GmJB should blow all our minds and trade up into the top 3 and then turnaround and trade down a few picks with another team , and still get his guy😃
- onesmallleap

The coup of all coups...I like it 😂

The ol shell game or roper dope lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 23 @ 12:01 AM ET
I thought of spreading the news that way but I figured it was just mean. That's why I made you tied for last!! Congrats!
- golfingsince

When does my participation medal arrive?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:02 AM ET
Honestly, I don't think there's too much to do? They went to the Finals then Conf. Finals and now in the Conf. Finals again?

They're pretty tight to the cap with a couple RFAs to sign. Think it will be much the same team next year, which isn't a bad thing. The pieces are there, guys just need to get over the hump

- NewYorkNuck

Season before it was Stone or Patches, cant remember which order. Last season it was Alex P.

What else can he do to help them over the hump?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:04 AM ET
Well, I don't live in Wpg.

At no point have I said I'm an elite drafter. That's just made up BS once again. Probably a joke that was told by Ruby and you believed like an idiot.

If you got a book. Lets see my results. I would honestly like to know. My own records are poor at best.

- manvanfan

If I were from Brandon I'd probably just go with Winnipeg.

You may never have said you're an elite drafter but you just let on like you're better than anyone else......including JB. We actually only have to back a few pages to see that.

I'll keep my book to myself, it's for my own enjoyment. The truth is, you're no better at hockey than the rest of us.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 23 @ 12:04 AM ET
That is what Carol said.


I like that they are having more than one voice. What is your opinion of Wallstedt as the other goalie guy here?

- VANTEL

I don’t like picking a goalie in the 1st round. Goalies are voodoo. That being said, if it’s a weak draft and their options aren’t great, he might be more of a sure thing than the skaters he’s projected around.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:06 AM ET
Goalies are found & developed & need not be 1st rounders. Elite C’s & top RHD are gold. Wingers & LHD are the easiest pieces to get.
- Nighthawk

I agree which is why I don't think you can start a build from the goalie out unless it's an expansion team.

A rebuild needs to start at d and c and then try to find/develop a goaltender.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:06 AM ET
But here's the conundrum: if you build from the goalie out, do you acquire the goalie through signing/trade or through draft.

If through trade/signing, the team already has to be competitive or close. If through draft, you don't know what you have for 3-5 seasons. So do you draft multiple goalies?

I like the build from D out but still employ BPA at the draft (been discussed to death.). Draft goalies but it's too difficult to rely on one to base your rebuild around.

- RealityChecker

Ian said you tend to draft goalies in consecutive years in his interview. Ideally. Something to that manner.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:07 AM ET
I don’t like picking a goalie in the 1st round. Goalies are voodoo. That being said, if it’s a weak draft and their options aren’t great, he might be more of a sure thing than the skaters he’s projected around.
- Shuswap Wap

Goalies and drummers are just plain weird.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 23 @ 12:08 AM ET
Goalies and drummers are just plain weird.
- RealityChecker

Do both always get the girls?
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:09 AM ET
Ian said you tend to draft goalies in consecutive years in his interview. Ideally. Something to that manner.
- manvanfan

That makes sense. Keep a couple/few options in the organization.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:09 AM ET
If I were from Brandon I'd probably just go with Winnipeg.

You may never have said you're an elite drafter but you just let on like you're better than anyone else......including JB. We actually only have to back a few pages to see that.

I'll keep my book to myself, it's for my own enjoyment. The truth is, you're no better at hockey than the rest of us.

- golfingsince

You've gone all out here trying to knock me down. You think I give a (frank) what you're saying right now. 😆 no (frank)s given. Don't know why you still talking about it.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:10 AM ET
Do both always get the girls?
- Shuswap Wap

They better or they'll be homeless.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:12 AM ET
You've gone all out here trying to knock me down. You think I give a (frank) what you're saying right now. 😆 no (frank)s given. Don't know why you still talking about it.
- manvanfan

Really? Cool.

Pretty much explains what people think of your opinions. No (frank)s given.

I guess I just talk about it because you know, it's a hockey forum.

I don't suppose this will make you rage quit, which i really don't GAF if you do or not.
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