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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
Sportsnet 650
@Sportsnet650
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8m
Benning - We are not taking anything off the board. We will listen to everything. We have had some teams call about 9th overall to see what it would take to trade it. We want a good young player back who is playing in the league right now.

Benning - Our defense moving forward... we're looking for size and strength. Right now with Hughes, Schmidt, and Rathbone, we have enough guys that skate well and move the puck out.

Benning - I'd like to add scoring depth to our forward group and depth at the AHL level. Guys who can step into the lineup when we have injuries.

Benning - When I talked with Alex Edler at the end of the year, he said he wants to come back for another season. We are going to talk with his agent today. In a flat cap world, we will have to look at what it will take to get him signed.


Benning - Travis liked JT in the middle last year, but he also knows it's a pretty good line with him Petey and Boes. We have options. My goal this summer is to have three good lines that contribute to the scoring of the team.

Benning - I look at this draft as an opportunity (rather than a risk). We have been scouting most of these kids since they were 16. I think we are prepared for this year's draft. Our scouts worked really hard.

Benning - Weisbrod helps me with pretty much everything. Managing scouts, running meetings, helping out with the pro group, staying on top of the day-to-day. He is a real big help to me and he does a great job.

Benning - Whether it's trades or buyouts we will do what is needed to make the changes necessary.

- VANTEL

Thx for this 👍

No fan of JTM at C but if that’s the case then it’s for 3 lines deep & ok with that given we have enough wingers &/or attain another. It allows BPA at 9th but still want a mid 6 C unless a legit top 6 winger falls. Problem I see is nobody of size & grit will be there. Pod fills need where we sorely lack. Speed is always a want. Puck possession & retrieval is a big need.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:01 PM ET
Thx for this 👍

No fan of JTM at C but if that’s the case then it’s for 3 lines deep & ok with that given we have enough wingers &/or attain another. It allows BPA at 9th but still want a mid 6 C unless a legit top 6 winger falls. Problem I see is nobody of size & grit will be there. Pod fills need where we sorely lack. Speed is always a want. Puck possession & retrieval is a big need.

- Nighthawk


Wait and see final roster. Right now it is just guessing.

D sounds like it is keeping Schmidt . Hughes and Rathbone seem to be staying, Edler depending what he is asking and then size and strength .
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:03 PM ET
Wait and see final roster. Right now it is just guessing.
- VANTEL

Yup lol

My rosters bore me til more is known. Looking forward to a lot of changes. Once a domino or more falls I could rebuild many holes..
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:05 PM ET
I don't know why this happens, but years ago, when I officiated, I considered a save as possesion, so whistle blew on delayed penalty, assist for goalie if he was 3rd person to play they puck and no assists on rebound goals.😁
- Reubenkincade


I think that in the case of a delayed penalty they think of it as “control” of the puck, but I’m with you. Why does it count as your goal of the puck hits you in the ass, but it’s the shooters goal of it hits the D man in the ass (beyond the obvious)?

There would just be too many variables to determine who scored and who assisted, so the “it touched him” rule is applied.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:07 PM ET
Sportsnet 650
@Sportsnet650
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8m
Benning - We are not taking anything off the board. We will listen to everything. We have had some teams call about 9th overall to see what it would take to trade it. We want a good young player back who is playing in the league right now.

Benning - Our defense moving forward... we're looking for size and strength. Right now with Hughes, Schmidt, and Rathbone, we have enough guys that skate well and move the puck out.

Benning - I'd like to add scoring depth to our forward group and depth at the AHL level. Guys who can step into the lineup when we have injuries.

Benning - When I talked with Alex Edler at the end of the year, he said he wants to come back for another season. We are going to talk with his agent today. In a flat cap world, we will have to look at what it will take to get him signed.


Benning - Travis liked JT in the middle last year, but he also knows it's a pretty good line with him Petey and Boes. We have options. My goal this summer is to have three good lines that contribute to the scoring of the team.

Benning - I look at this draft as an opportunity (rather than a risk). We have been scouting most of these kids since they were 16. I think we are prepared for this year's draft. Our scouts worked really hard.

Benning - Weisbrod helps me with pretty much everything. Managing scouts, running meetings, helping out with the pro group, staying on top of the day-to-day. He is a real big help to me and he does a great job.

Benning - Whether it's trades or buyouts we will do what is needed to make the changes necessary.

- VANTEL

good interview. very reasonable responses.

a couple things jumped out; 1) he name checked rathbone over oj (surprising/not surprising); and 2) weisbrod involved in everything makes me cringe.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
I think that in the case of a delayed penalty they think of it as “control” of the puck, but I’m with you. Why does it count as your goal of the puck hits you in the ass, but it’s the shooters goal of it hits the D man in the ass (beyond the obvious)?

There would just be too many variables to determine who scored and who assisted, so the “it touched him” rule is applied.

- 1970vintage

plus those chintzy apples give the bench lots of ammunition to talk trash to the teammate who gets the assist.

"you fcuking chiseler!"
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:12 PM ET
good interview. very reasonable responses.

a couple things jumped out; 1) he name checked rathbone over oj (surprising/not surprising); and 2) weisbrod involved in everything makes me cringe.

- RealityChecker

I don’t enough about Weisbrod tbh. I only speculate & decide he must be a sounding board & a 2nd opinion. No problem with that if JB gets it right. Now saying that I don’t know what goes on in the inner circle. Therefore the Sedins may be good at being more voices & further help JB on decisions & direction.

On OJ I like him & his injuries set him back but he could be a chip to fill need also.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:12 PM ET
good interview. very reasonable responses.

a couple things jumped out; 1) he name checked rathbone over oj (surprising/not surprising); and 2) weisbrod involved in everything makes me cringe.

- RealityChecker



He also did not mention Myers.

Weisbrod makes everyone feel dirty.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
Is ken Johnson a version of that oilers prospect who was doing dangles and shoot out moves , but never made it in the NH
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:14 PM ET
I’m ignoring comparisons since we had no 1st or 2nd pick. I don’t want more LHD we have enough for now. I see a pick more for need for both depth & size.

Projecting Johnson to fall to us & has nice skills but his 2-way game is lazy. Not a fan if that given we need more tenacity & puck hounds to go with skill.

- Nighthawk

That's petty much saying you would rather draft Tyler Motte over Brayden Point
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:22 PM ET
He also did not mention Myers.

Weisbrod makes everyone feel dirty.

- VANTEL

i wishfully think that it has meaning but in the context of your quote i don't think it does. jb says they are looking for size and strength because they have guys that can skate the puck out naming the 3 mentioned.

i would put myers in the size and strength box but oj in the other (though i'm happy to have my opinion changed.)
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:23 PM ET
He also did not mention Myers.

Weisbrod makes everyone feel dirty.

- VANTEL

Myers might be viewed as more of a safety valve to JB and not a dynamic puck mover like those others
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:28 PM ET
Myers might be viewed as more of a safety valve to JB and not a dynamic puck mover like those others
- Nucker101


The Sedin's will be redecorating his office sooner than you think.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:31 PM ET
good interview. very reasonable responses.

a couple things jumped out; 1) he name checked rathbone over oj (surprising/not surprising); and 2) weisbrod involved in everything makes me cringe.

- RealityChecker

This.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:33 PM ET
The Sedin's will be redecorating his office sooner than you think.
- VanHockeyGuy

TB model. Brisebois succeeds Yzerman

Hedman 29 yrs old when he won the cup. Stamkos 29 Kucherov 26 Point 23 Killorn 29 Cirelli 22 Palat 28 Sergachev 21 Johnson 29 Gourde 27
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:34 PM ET
Blasted Church is in Oliver.
- K-man25


Okanagan Falls
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 24 @ 12:34 PM ET
Lots of Miller in this:

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:38 PM ET
Myers might be viewed as more of a safety valve to JB and not a dynamic puck mover like those others
- Nucker101



It could have been an oversight and more than likely was but it could be part of a package. Al you can do at this time is speculate.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:39 PM ET
all solid answers
- Nucker101


The only thing I would question is why only 3 lines that contribute?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:40 PM ET
Wait and see final roster. Right now it is just guessing.

D sounds like it is keeping Schmidt . Hughes and Rathbone seem to be staying, Edler depending what he is asking and then size and strength .

- VANTEL

Somebody on the LHD has to swap to the right given the excess bodies. Schmidt can but I’d try Hughes also. If Edler re-ups hoping it’s only a year.

Say Hamonic walks...

Edler Hughes
Rathbone Myers
OJ Schmidt

That is only to fit all D in & not necessarily TOI pairings deployment. Rough draft. Not enough grit & mean in there.

With Hamonic...

Hughes Hamonic
Rathbone Myers
Edler Schmidt
OJ

Same as above for TOI but better for PK mins. OJ could then be depth or trade chip.

Sign Hamonic & a UFA RHD no Edler...

Hughes Savard
Schmidt Myers
Rathbone Hamonic
OJ

More to my liking but Savard needs to say yes.

Overall Edler creates an overloaded left side with me wanting the kids to play & better defensive play which is asking for a lot.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:40 PM ET
TB model. Brisebois succeeds Yzerman

Hedman 29 yrs old when he won the cup. Stamkos 29 Kucherov 26 Point 23 Killorn 29 Cirelli 22 Palat 28 Sergachev 21 Johnson 29 Gourde 27

- manvanfan


I can understand why JB feels he needs to be aggressive this offseason.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:41 PM ET
The only thing I would question is why only 3 lines that contribute?
- 1970vintage


I think Weisbrod told him to say that.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
That's petty much saying you would rather draft Tyler Motte over Brayden Point
- manvanfan

Not even close lol

I prefer hard working good skaters. Aka work ethic & inclined to be warriors. I lije Johnson but he’s light & if he has the character to work on his game then take him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:45 PM ET
i wishfully think that it has meaning but in the context of your quote i don't think it does. jb says they are looking for size and strength because they have guys that can skate the puck out naming the 3 mentioned.

i would put myers in the size and strength box but oj in the other (though i'm happy to have my opinion changed.)

- RealityChecker


The thing most here have noticed for years under this management is how players drop off when they arrive and how they excel when they leave. You have to question why?

So many games no hitting , no battling in front, first few minutes of games the teams not ready.

I seen now many people giving Brad Shaw high praise so hopefully he is brought in to fix those specific things. Maybe a guy like Myers playing a more defensive game with the right coaching and decisions will turn his game around.

At least they are aware of what needs to be done , next step is to fix things.

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:45 PM ET
The only thing I would question is why only 3 lines that contribute?
- 1970vintage

The 4th line is expiring contracts.
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