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GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 23 @ 10:04 AM ET
Yeah even though I think the asset management has been brutal I don’t say that to discredit JBB
- Feds91Stammer

Agreed there. The cupboards are pretty bare now. And he keeps kicking that cap can down the street (and he's running out of street).
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
Agreed there. The cupboards are pretty bare now. And he keeps kicking that cap can down the street (and he's running out of street).
- GalacticStone


The won the Cup last year and if they win again this year it will be worth it.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
The won the Cup last year and if they win again this year it will be worth it.
- ses111

Sure but 4 1sts traded for what I would only say is one impact player could really kill future success. Also sucks to see a guy like Verhaege not get the opportunity to shine in Tampa. Dude just won Barkov a Selke.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:12 AM ET
Sure but 4 1sts traded for what I would only say is one impact player could really kill future success. Also sucks to see a guy like Verhaege not get the opportunity to shine in Tampa. Dude just won Barkov a Selke.
- Feds91Stammer


Something tells me they will figure it out. Just playing in Tampa is a huge help.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:19 AM ET
Something tells me they will figure it out. Just playing in Tampa is a huge help.
- ses111

This off season will be crucial for them.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 23 @ 10:27 AM ET
Sure but 4 1sts traded for what I would only say is one impact player could really kill future success. Also sucks to see a guy like Verhaege not get the opportunity to shine in Tampa. Dude just won Barkov a Selke.
- Feds91Stammer

Out of Savard, Goodrow, and Coleman, I am not sure if any of them stay.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:29 AM ET
Out of Savard, Goodrow, and Coleman, I am not sure if any of them stay.
- GalacticStone

Well they don’t have the cap. I’m just saying Coleman the only one that’s relatively useful.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
Sure, why not? They played so well in the last game. Knowing Trotz though, I have to agree with you. Unless he goes with Ross Johnston to replace Barzal...
- JohnScammo



I think he needs to go with sOrOkin in net and get Leo and Bailey out of the lineup.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:32 AM ET
I think he needs to go with sOrOkin in net and get Leo and Bailey out of the lineup.
- nyisles7

Bailey? Bold strategy.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:34 AM ET
Yzerman does deserve the lion's share of credit for building this team and improving it's overall culture. To be fair though, he has been gone a couple of years now and Briesbois has done a good job of keeping the wheels turning.
- GalacticStone



I think the difference is Cooper getting the team to believe in playing a team D concept. Before they bought in they were losing in the PO's. Playing a tight D typically wins in the PO's. Steve Y also added some grit and toughness which they also lacked for the PO runs before they were successful.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:34 AM ET
Bailey? Bold strategy.
- Feds91Stammer


Guy sucks, haven't you heard.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
I think the difference is Cooper getting the team to believe in playing a team D concept. Before they bought in they were losing in the PO's. Playing a tight D typically wins in the PO's. Steve Y also added some grit and toughness which they also lacked for the PO runs before they were successful.
- nyisles7

The difference is Brayden Point becoming a playoff savage.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:33 AM ET
The difference is Brayden Point becoming a playoff savage.
- Feds91Stammer


What a player, plays in all situations and just brings it in the PO's.
Not to the level as far as Points as far as points, The Isles JGP has been that guy in the PO's since Lou got him. He's battling a knock currently which sucks but he's playing through it.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:33 AM ET
I think the difference is Cooper getting the team to believe in playing a team D concept. Before they bought in they were losing in the PO's. Playing a tight D typically wins in the PO's. Steve Y also added some grit and toughness which they also lacked for the PO runs before they were successful.
- nyisles7

Lightning were soft for years. All skill and no grit. They had one tough guy on the roster, but never played a hard game, defensively or otherwise. That has been fixed in recent years. Now, to paraphrase Walter White, they have become the danger.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:34 AM ET
The difference is Brayden Point becoming a playoff savage.
- Feds91Stammer

100%. They’re depth is incredible and they’re capable of playing pretty much any game.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:35 AM ET
The difference is Brayden Point becoming a playoff savage.
- Feds91Stammer

Point is a goddammed beast. A boss. And he does it while drawing the top opposition and shutdown guys. Total f-ing stud and the other GMs who drafted clowns above him must be kicking themselves.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
Lightning were soft for years. All skill and no grit. They had one tough guy on the roster, but never played a hard game, defensively or otherwise. That has been fixed in recent years. Now, to paraphrase Walter White, they have become the danger.
- GalacticStone



LOL on WW.

They 100% added the grit and depth guys to win in the PO's. Good solid team throughout the lineup The last couple of years obviously.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
Point is a goddammed beast. A boss. And he does it while drawing the top opposition and shutdown guys. Total f-ing stud and the other GMs who drafted clowns above him must be kicking themselves.
- GalacticStone

To be fair if Tampa knew the player he was he wouldn’t have been picked in the 3rd round
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 23 @ 11:41 AM ET
To be fair if Tampa knew the player he was he wouldn’t have been picked in the 3rd round
- Cptmjl

Well yea, he'd go 1st or 2nd overall in that draft if you were to get a do-over
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:42 AM ET
Well yea, he'd go 1st or 2nd overall in that draft if you were to get a do-over
- eichiefs9

Yep everyone passed on him literally a few times….

Including Tampa x 2
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
To be fair if Tampa knew the player he was he wouldn’t have been picked in the 3rd round
- Cptmjl

Nobody knew. Like Palat and Kucherov. Diamonds in the rough.

I remember when he got scratched early on because he was late (or no-show) to a team meeting. I remember thinking the guy was probably middle-six at best. He had good straight-line speed, but that's it. He's grown so much since then.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
To be fair if Tampa knew the player he was he wouldn’t have been picked in the 3rd round
- Cptmjl

If he was 6’ he would have went top 5 lol

91 points in 72 games in the whl his draft year

Meanwhile virtanen goes 6th overall with 71 points in 71 games. Grit baby. Wooooo.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:44 AM ET
Yep everyone passed on him literally a few times….

Including Tampa x 2

- Cptmjl

True that.

They did trade up to make sure they got him though.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:44 AM ET
Lee skating with the regulars at practice today
Maybe an optional skate but wow if he's able to come out with the team tonight and warmup the place will go nuts.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:47 AM ET
Lee skating with the regulars at practice today
Maybe an optional skate but wow if he's able to come out with the team tonight and warmup the place will go nuts.

- nyisles7

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