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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:24 PM ET

- Wetbandit1


You’re right, he’s better
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:26 PM ET
Nothing.
IMO, Bolts wouldn't trade Point for Eichel.

Point is just as good, cheaper, more reliable in terms of availability, a stud playoff performer, and has a great attitude.
Jack is jack.

- IonSabres


Point is cheaper for one more reason, unless you think he's taking yet another sweetheart deal at age 26 instead of taking a full value deal?

Interesting that Eichel is 6 months younger than Point.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:28 PM ET
You’re right, he’s better
- Pegullaville


JFC
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:28 PM ET
You’re right, he’s better
- Pegullaville


What kind of production do you think Eichel would have on that loaded Tampa team?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:29 PM ET
Kucherov gets his ribs broken right in front of a Ref.


- Pegullaville

they have their excuse to put him on IR next season now

The Don
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Glasgow, VA
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:31 PM ET
Hank Balling: On the Lighter Side: Wheel of Names
- Hank Balling

I'm late to the game, but I spun the wheel so I figured I might as well post it.

Norm "Rocky" Farr
Richard Smehlik
Teppo Numminen
Taylor Hall
Alexander Mogilny
Gilbert Perreault

Apparently all my other goalies are injured so I had to call up Mr. 19 Career NHL Games.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:33 PM ET
What kind of production do you think Eichel would have on that loaded Tampa team?
- kingcong39


Stamkos at 5v5 is a shell of his former self. He is mostly carried by the PP at this point.

Kucherov didn’t even play at all this season.

Brayden Point is Patrice Bergeron level defence that averages a point a game.

Guy has 14 goals in 17 playoff games this year.

What more does he have to prove ?

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:38 PM ET
Stamkos at 5v5 is a shell of his former self. He is mostly carried by the PP at this point.

Kucherov didn’t even play at all this season.

Brayden Point is Patrice Bergeron level defence that averages a point a game.

Guy has 14 goals in 17 playoff games this year.

What more does he have to prove ?

- Pegullaville


What's Eichel then?

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
What's Eichel then?


- kingcong39


Picture says it all.

Thank you for proving Point is the better player ?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:42 PM ET
Picture says it all.

Thank you for proving Point is the better player ?

- Pegullaville


LOL 😅😂😂😂😂😅

You called Point's defensive abilities Patrice Bergeron level. What's Eichel's defensive abilities?

Especially considering the poop sack team the Sabres have been while Point's been part of a juggernaut lineup.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:47 PM ET
LOL 😅😂😂😂😂😅

You called Point's defensive abilities Patrice Bergeron level. What's Eichel's defensive abilities?

Especially considering the poop sack team the Sabres have been while Point's been part of a juggernaut lineup.

- kingcong39


Eichel’s defensive numbers are inflated due to the fact he played 21 games in 2021 in a system that made offence non-existent.

Jesus Christ even Skinner had awesome defensive numbers this year but I bet you won’t post that RAPM.

So we have a player in Point that drives offence at a higher rate and has just as good expected goals against that plays in a much higher up tempo system.

Is Kucherov a legend ? Absolutely.

Would Eichel put up better offensive numbers in Tampa ? Absolutely.

Brayden Point is the heart of a Tampa team that is one goal away from another Stanley Cup final.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:54 PM ET
Eichel’s defensive numbers are inflated due to the fact he played 21 games in 2021 in a system that made offence non-existent.

Jesus Christ even Skinner had awesome defensive numbers this year but I bet you won’t post that RAPM.

So we have a player in Point that drives offence at a higher rate and has just as good expected goals against that plays in a much higher up tempo system.

Is Kucherov a legend ? Absolutely.

Would Eichel put up better offensive numbers in Tampa ? Absolutely.

Brayden Point is the heart of a Tampa team that is one goal away from another Stanley Cup final.

- Pegullaville


Jesus Christ, Point has also played with arguably the best defenseman and best goaltender. Who has Eichel played with in that regard? Makes no difference, eh?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:03 PM ET
Eichel’s defensive numbers are inflated due to the fact he played 21 games in 2021 in a system that made offence non-existent.

Jesus Christ even Skinner had awesome defensive numbers this year but I bet you won’t post that RAPM.

So we have a player in Point that drives offence at a higher rate and has just as good expected goals against that plays in a much higher up tempo system.

Is Kucherov a legend ? Absolutely.

Would Eichel put up better offensive numbers in Tampa ? Absolutely.

Brayden Point is the heart of a Tampa team that is one goal away from another Stanley Cup final.

- Pegullaville


People who dont watch the Bolts underestimate hos good Point is.
I'm not sure who has better Zone Entry w Possession numbers, but they are both elite level.
I never said Point was better, but certainly just as good..that RAPM was surprising how much better of a clutch performer Pointer was...and it us stunning how good of a playoff performer he is.

I wouldn't see them trading Point for Jack. And certainly not Kouch either. Stammer for Jack, surely.

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:03 PM ET
Jesus Christ, Point has also played with arguably the best defenseman and best goaltender. Who has Eichel played with in that regard? Makes no difference, eh?
- kingcong39


So we are going to diminish what Point has accomplished because of it ?

RAPM’s are individual statistics that the individual brings to the team.

Point is just as influential for Kucherov’s success that Kucherov is to his.

The guy has 36 playoff goals, 69 points in total in 61 games. 9 game goal streak.

I’m judging from your tone that you are inferencing that Point is the cart being pulled by the horse. I see Point has the horse. If he was the cart, Stamkos would have never moved to the wing
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jun 23 @ 11:04 PM ET
BTW I have the all-time worst Sabres team I can't even make this up.

Ellis Corkum Grier

Montador Dunn

Lalime
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 23 @ 11:04 PM ET
Guess the Islanders wanna keep playing
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jun 23 @ 11:04 PM ET
New York Lucklanders
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:06 PM ET
Welp, Isle are a tough friggin team, that's for sure.

That pissed the Bolts off, I expect them to come out energized on Friday.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 23 @ 11:06 PM ET
That was a bad turnover by Coleman
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:08 PM ET
That was a bad turnover by Coleman
- Buff36


Absolutely horrendous. Also, what the hell are Islanders fans doing throwing that poop on the ice?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 23 @ 11:10 PM ET
Jesus Christ, Point has also played with arguably the best defenseman and best goaltender. Who has Eichel played with in that regard? Makes no difference, eh?
- kingcong39


This. He may be lacking as a captain but the kid has carried this franchise on his back for the last few years.
jimmy mcnaulty
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2008

Jun 23 @ 11:39 PM ET
You wanna get wet?

Pay the piper.

- Powerslave


if you wanna get soaked….i mean if you really wanna get DAMP….you better pay for it, otherwise you’ll be dry as a brush pile.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:00 AM ET
So we are going to diminish what Point has accomplished because of it ?

RAPM’s are individual statistics that the individual brings to the team.

Point is just as influential for Kucherov’s success that Kucherov is to his.

The guy has 36 playoff goals, 69 points in total in 61 games. 9 game goal streak.

I’m judging from your tone that you are inferencing that Point is the cart being pulled by the horse. I see Point has the horse. If he was the cart, Stamkos would have never moved to the wing

- Pegullaville

Point > Eichel as of today.

Eichel on a good team changes that as I don’t think RAPM is anywhere near perfect as accounting for teammates in their model
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:01 AM ET
Kudos to the Isles. They played well.

If they can cheap shot Point out of the game like they did Kucherov and tried to against Stamkos they have a good shot in game 7
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:05 AM ET
Jesus Christ, Point has also played with arguably the best defenseman and best goaltender. Who has Eichel played with in that regard? Makes no difference, eh?
- kingcong39

Problem with arguing about team strength is that the Bolts are as good as they are partly because of Point. He’s a play driver. Not a passenger
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