We knew it then and we're proved correct today. I'm NOT a hindsight is 20/20 kind of person. I'm not. But when so many of us (me included) were screaming from the rooftops to take the kid, and when everyone that knew him and played with him said "all he does is score goals", it's hard to figure out how they passed on him. Of course, the Flyers would have probably buried him in the AHL so it's a moot point.
- Letterkenney

Don’t worry. The Flyers are the smartest guys in the room.

And i think York has timmonen type skill, and id be happy with that

Habs get 1 more and it’s good night Irene. Might be already

Zero regrets with the York pick. He’ should be our best d man shortly. No knock on provy at all but in a few years I would not be surprised if your is 1d and provy 2d. Get a few good Rh compliments and we’ll be in good shape. Draft hindsight is pointless. No one was taking anyone but Patrick w the second pic. We got our man and also a small scorer with good hands in brink. Might work might not but I like the attempt to do something to better the team.

well thats what TK was supposed to be, and we needed a D. It made sense at the time. I wouldve been fine either way, i wasnt sure what he could do at his size. Its rare
- bradster

Plenty of small guys in the NHL have been dynamic offensively.

Zero regrets with the York pick. He’ should be our best d man shortly. No knock on provy at all but in a few years I would not be surprised if your is 1d and provy 2d. Get a few good Rh compliments and we’ll be in good shape. Draft hindsight is pointless. No one was taking anyone but Patrick w the second pic. We got our man and also a small scorer with good hands in brink. Might work might not but I like the attempt to do something to better the team.
- GPerogie

What are you talking about? When people scream to pick a player on draft night and he’s passed over it’s not hindsight.

Plenty of small guys in the NHL have been dynamic offensively.
- PLindbergh31

WoW watching that Caufield goal. I understand the flyer goon scouts. Caufield to skilled and fast for the flyers.

well thats what TK was supposed to be, and we needed a D. It made sense at the time. I wouldve been fine either way, i wasnt sure what he could do at his size. Its rare
- bradster

I don’t think tk was touted as a sniper like caulfield was. I think tk was more all around with high energy. Caulfield was rated probably best shot just scores goals.

well thats what TK was supposed to be, and we needed a D. It made sense at the time. I wouldve been fine either way, i wasnt sure what he could do at his size. Its rare
- bradster

But there were many of us that saw this coming and were miffed when the FLyers passed on him. In today's game of no clutching and grabbing, and penalties for pounding skilled players, his size is a non issue. His hear and his compete and his skill are what many knew then and that's why we regret the Flyers passing on him. The kid is just a flat out stud hockey player. The kind the Flyers need. Besides, TK is a no show in the playoffs. So far. Just frustrating to see a guy the Flyers passed on showing up on the biggest stage in hockey and killing it when we could have had him. But, like I said, the Flyers would probably have buried the kid in the AHL.

What are you talking about? When people scream to pick a player on draft night and he’s passed over it’s not hindsight.
- PLindbergh31

Wasn’t there at the draft I think I was at a show in Carlisle pa but the pic is the pic. I know the board here was livid at the time but a little soon to judge Get back to me in a couple years. If York pans out to be like a young Desjardins are you still upset. What if the micro skill takes a few hits and doesn’t last long in the league. I don’t think the draft table is an inept as you think I’m absolutely fine with the pick. Give the kid a chance

MJL's numbers seem much more realistic.

There's talk of guys like Johansen, Duchene, Kuznetsov, Tarasenko and Palat possibly being available. And they have the cap-space to compete for UFAs like RNH, Landeskog, Krejci, Saad, Hoffman, Hyman, Palmieri, etc.

There really shouldn't be too much pressure to take Jake or JVR, given their options.
- Tomahawk

I looked through each team's roster and there's going to be probably around 25 players or so making in the 5M range or larger that might be available. They'll have plenty to choose from.

But there were many of us that saw this coming and were miffed when the FLyers passed on him. In today's game of no clutching and grabbing, and penalties for pounding skilled players, his size is a non issue. His hear and his compete and his skill are what many knew then and that's why we regret the Flyers passing on him. The kid is just a flat out stud hockey player. The kind the Flyers need. Besides, TK is a no show in the playoffs. So far. Just frustrating to see a guy the Flyers passed on showing up on the biggest stage in hockey and killing it when we could have had him. But, like I said, the Flyers would probably have buried the kid in the AHL.
- Letterkenney

To be fair.. caulfield only called up due to injury. Kudos to the kid for making them NOT be able to sit him. He probably slows down next year. Playing a whole season. But definitely looks like he’s gonna be a good one. York looks really good too. Captain of gold winning world jr team. Future pp1 dman which we need. Plus got brink by trading back. I’ll admit when they traded back from 11 to 14 and caulfield was still there at 14 I thought no way they pass on him again. I do wonder what they would’ve taken in 2nd round if they had taken caulfield at 14.

More and more publications, like the hockey writers and the athletic, are pointing to JVR as the one to be unprotected and selected, and really it makes the most sense for the Flyers. Its up to Fletcher to sell any FA on the Flyers, based on the players, the young talent, and most importantly his plan. It true these players can go anywhere, but why not the Flyers. The are a franchise committed to winning, they have a HOF coach and two prior head coaches as assistants, and they have some young players in Hart, Farabee and hopefully York that will be something. And they also what a lot of other teams don't have, cap space. As far as the PP, why not see if York can handle it. He really looks to be able to QB it pretty well.
- jd250

I figured it was along those lines. JVR might be chosen but what's written is just simply speculation. You're talking like it's a given. Those players may not choose the Flyers because the feel they aren't ready to win. It's going to be an interesting off season. Because of the ED and the flat cap, it's very hard to even guess at what the market will be like. We took the approach last season of seeing if a young player can handle it.

Wasn’t there at the draft I think I was at a show in Carlisle pa but the pic is the pic. I know the board here was livid at the time but a little soon to judge Get back to me in a couple years. If York pans out to be like a young Desjardins are you still upset. What if the micro skill takes a few hits and doesn’t last long in the league. I don’t think the draft table is an inept as you think I’m absolutely fine with the pick. Give the kid a chance
- GPerogie

Yes I’ll admit I was pissed at draft. But once cooled down and really looked hard at York I was fine with it. I still would’ve wanted caulfield but York +brink combo whole different has immense value too

But there were many of us that saw this coming and were miffed when the FLyers passed on him. In today's game of no clutching and grabbing, and penalties for pounding skilled players, his size is a non issue. His hear and his compete and his skill are what many knew then and that's why we regret the Flyers passing on him. The kid is just a flat out stud hockey player. The kind the Flyers need. Besides, TK is a no show in the playoffs. So far. Just frustrating to see a guy the Flyers passed on showing up on the biggest stage in hockey and killing it when we could have had him. But, like I said, the Flyers would probably have buried the kid in the AHL.
- Letterkenney

thats great that a bunch of people wanted him, he looks like the real deal, but hes 5'6... so we'll see, but how long do we have to listen to every one talking about it, its been 2 yrs

I think the Fletcher should play it hard with Sanheim, he really does not deserve a raise after the season he just had, and has yet to even reach 30 points in a season. I would sign him on a 1 year prove it deal, same as Patrick.
- jd250

That's essentially telling the player you don't believe in him. Its also really bad player management. The only reason why you would do that with Sanheim is if negotiations are going badly and you can't find any common ground. Seriously comparing the situation with Sanheim to Patrick?

We knew it then and we're proved correct today. I'm NOT a hindsight is 20/20 kind of person. I'm not. But when so many of us (me included) were screaming from the rooftops to take the kid, and when everyone that knew him and played with him said "all he does is score goals", it's hard to figure out how they passed on him. Of course, the Flyers would have probably buried him in the AHL so it's a moot point.
- Letterkenney

Montreal got a good player so that means that we automatically didn't?

Montreal got a good player so that means that we automatically didn't?
- MJL

We got a very good player. But 30+ goal scorers are not easy to find. And everyone says all we need is that sniper player. We had him and passed. If York evolves into 1st or 2nd pair dman, and Brink turns into a top 6 forward, I prefer our route. If Brink settles into bottom line or worse, then Cole was the right pick. Assuming we got York right, Brink will determine the better outcome.

Zero regrets with the York pick. He’ should be our best d man shortly. No knock on provy at all but in a few years I would not be surprised if your is 1d and provy 2d. Get a few good Rh compliments and we’ll be in good shape. Draft hindsight is pointless. No one was taking anyone but Patrick w the second pic. We got our man and also a small scorer with good hands in brink. Might work might not but I like the attempt to do something to better the team.
- GPerogie

I hope you're right. I agree that so far in limited games that York looks really good. If he adopts Provy's training regimen, his limit is the sky. Provy is a machine because of his workout and health regimen so he can eat minutes like most others can't. They could be a deadly pairing fairly soon. And I'd agree that perhaps its a toss up between York and Caufield. But damn!!! Watching these playoffs makes me think of what could have been with the Flyers.

We got a very good player. But 30+ goal scorers are not easy to find. And everyone says all we need is that sniper player. We had him and passed. If York evolves into 1st or 2nd pair dman, and Brink turns into a top 6 forward, I prefer our route. If Brink settles into bottom line or worse, then Cole was the right pick. Assuming we got York right, Brink will determine the better outcome.
- biggbear77

what if forester turns into caulfield, people will still complain lol

We got a very good player. But 30+ goal scorers are not easy to find. And everyone says all we need is that sniper player. We had him and passed. If York evolves into 1st or 2nd pair dman, and Brink turns into a top 6 forward, I prefer our route. If Brink settles into bottom line or worse, then Cole was the right pick. Assuming we got York right, Brink will determine the better outcome.
- biggbear77

We'll see if we got a good player. I have two points. Caufield is not a 30 goal scorer in the NHL. Yet. Second point is really good two way puck moving defenseman are far more difficult to find then scoring wingers. You build up the middle. Goalies, defenseman, centers. Brink has nothing to do with the outcome of that first round pick.

Montreal got a good player so that means that we automatically didn't?
- MJL

Not at all. I'm just saying that clutch guys with skill and speed that arise to big situations are hard to come by. Could be good for the Flyers to have someone like that. THat's all I'm saying.

what if forester turns into caulfield, people will still complain lol
- bradster

well, they are 2 different kind of scorers. cole makes his own shot as you just saw. tyson is not that kind of skater/puck handler and is better off the pass. but if they both score lots of goals, flyers fans won't complain about the foerster pick at least. having watched all of the phantoms games, he surely looked like a real goal scorer at that level and at a young age. i am excited to see him in camp.

We got a very good player. But 30+ goal scorers are not easy to find. And everyone says all we need is that sniper player. We had him and passed. If York evolves into 1st or 2nd pair dman, and Brink turns into a top 6 forward, I prefer our route. If Brink settles into bottom line or worse, then Cole was the right pick. Assuming we got York right, Brink will determine the better outcome.
- biggbear77

With york the thing that makes him is pp1qb. If we can land that 1d to go with provy the d is set for along time. I know it’s a big if

Not at all. I'm just saying that clutch guys with skill and speed that arise to big situations are hard to come by. Could be good for the Flyers to have someone like that. THat's all I'm saying.
- Letterkenney

Could York be a clutch guy with speed and skill? This issue with Caufield is bizarre in my opinion.