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bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:10 AM ET
Johnny Gaudreau, Alex Debrincat.
- MJL



Gaudeau is 2" taller, but i guesses you proved me wrong, its totally normal and not the exception to the rule
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:12 AM ET
I could see him possibly signing a one year deal, but not because it is a “prove it deal.” More likely at a slight raise and because Sanheim bets on himself. If for instance, the two sides can’t agree on term at the right price. Let’s say the Flyers want 3-5 years and Sanheim wants 2, I could see the 1 year deal happening then as a compromise then he is RFA again next season.
- NC Flyers Fan


If you read my other post, I stated the only way a one year deal happens is if both sides can't find common ground. Sanheim won't want a one year deal, he'll want some security. The Flyers won't want a one year deal as that would put them in a weaker negotiating spot. Especially if he has a good year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:13 AM ET
Gaudeau is 2" taller, but i guesses you proved me wrong, its totally normal and not the exception to the rule
- bradster


5'9 is pretty short for an NHL forward. DeBrincat is listed a 5'7". It's definitely not the norm but there are plenty of successful undersize players.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:16 AM ET
If you read my other post, I stated the only way a one year deal happens is if both sides can't find common ground. Sanheim won't want a one year deal, he'll want some security. The Flyers won't want a one year deal as that would put them in a weaker negotiating spot. Especially if he has a good year.
- MJL



I think Sandheim wont be here in October, trades will be made, and we have to give to get. Could totally see Sandheim and TK both being gone. We need changes. Culture and style of play
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:19 AM ET
I think Sandheim wont be here in October, trades will be made, and we have to give to get. Could totally see Sandheim and TK both being gone. We need changes. Culture and style of play
- bradster


Possibility. The Flyers didn't play the style of play that the coaching staff wanted them to play last year
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:20 AM ET
5'9 is pretty short for an NHL forward. DeBrincat is listed a 5'7". It's definitely not the norm but there are plenty of successful undersize players.
- MJL


from one website, this is why it wasnt a sure thing taking someone that small. Even with the ODD success story. No one that small ever been drafted in the 1st round.

Although, one thing has kept scouts from labeling him as a top 10 prospect for this upcoming 2019 NHL Draft. As of the end of the 2018 season, Caufield is only 5’6” or 168cm in other words. At the 2017 draft, Kailer Yamamoto made headlines as the shortest players to ever be taken in the first round. Yamamoto is 2 inches or 5 centimetres taller than Cole Caufield.


However, im still fine with york, we need him
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:21 AM ET
Possibility. The Flyers didn't play the style of play that the coaching staff wanted them to play last year
- MJL


oh ya, that is apparent lol. they didnt play any style lol
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jun 25 @ 8:26 AM ET
If you read my other post, I stated the only way a one year deal happens is if both sides can't find common ground. Sanheim won't want a one year deal, he'll want some security. The Flyers won't want a one year deal as that would put them in a weaker negotiating spot. Especially if he has a good year.
- MJL


I wasn’t disagreeing. I think the Flyers would not want a two year deal more than not wanting a one year deal. We’ll see.

RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Jun 25 @ 8:38 AM ET
For the finals I hope they stop running the Honda ad with AP & his wife...ya know Bettman was pulling for a Vegas cup win and has been since they started having the awards shows there before expansion...sorry Honda, Gary could not make it happen for you..I can watch the finals and just enjoy it now that the LV Golden Spoonfed success are done...LV is what happens when the commish gets tired of Crosby
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jun 25 @ 8:42 AM ET
For the finals I hope they stop running the Honda ad with AP & his wife...ya know Bettman was pulling for a Vegas cup win and has been since they started having the awards shows there before expansion...sorry Honda, Gary could not make it happen for you..I can watch the finals and just enjoy it now that the LV Golden Spoonfed success are done...LV is what happens when the commish gets tired of Crosby
- RajaAmpat
That commercial kind of cracks me up. It's like his wife is going to say something and then she doesn't. I guess she was told to just look pretty, but she wanted to say something?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jun 25 @ 8:46 AM ET
For the finals I hope they stop running the Honda ad with AP & his wife...ya know Bettman was pulling for a Vegas cup win and has been since they started having the awards shows there before expansion...sorry Honda, Gary could not make it happen for you..I can watch the finals and just enjoy it now that the LV Golden Spoonfed success are done...LV is what happens when the commish gets tired of Crosby
- RajaAmpat
On another note, can you imagine the ratings for a Habs/Bolts final? That might be an all time record low! No one in this country cares about the Habs and while the ratings in Canada will spike that will do nothing for the ratings south of the border. And no one cares about the Bolts. They may have the deadest crowd in the history of the NHL playoffs. It's like everyone is sitting there and eating ice cream like they're at a baseball game. Eh what?
Robert's Plant
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jun 25 @ 8:48 AM ET
On another note, can you imagine the ratings for a Habs/Bolts final? That might be an all time record low! No one in this country cares about the Habs and while the ratings in Canada will spike that will do nothing for the ratings south of the border. And no one cares about the Bolts. They may have the deadest crowd in the history of the NHL playoffs. It's like everyone is sitting there and eating ice cream like they're at a baseball game. Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout


It looked like they had a decent crowd at their arena watch party Wednesday night.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jun 25 @ 8:48 AM ET
Hakstol hired by the crack heads!!! What are the chances that he wins a Cup before the Flyers do? Just asking for a friend.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 25 @ 8:52 AM ET
More and more publications, like the hockey writers and the athletic, are pointing to JVR as the one to be unprotected and selected, and really it makes the most sense for the Flyers. Its up to Fletcher to sell any FA on the Flyers, based on the players, the young talent, and most importantly his plan. It true these players can go anywhere, but why not the Flyers. The are a franchise committed to winning, they have a HOF coach and two prior head coaches as assistants, and they have some young players in Hart, Farabee and hopefully York that will be something. And they also what a lot of other teams don't have, cap space. As far as the PP, why not see if York can handle it. He really looks to be able to QB it pretty well.
- jd250


If that is their pitch they are in trouble.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:58 AM ET
Can't believe Montreal actually won. This was a real choke job by Vegas.
- jd250


It really wasn't tho. Montreal played better than them for most of the series -- they found an extra gear that Vegas couldn't match.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:01 AM ET
It really wasn't tho. Montreal played better than them for most of the series -- they found an extra gear that Vegas couldn't match.
- Tomahawk



agreed, no one choked, Montreal played great, vegas couldnt score because they werent getting close high danger shots.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 25 @ 9:02 AM ET
Hope all the folks saying it’s just Carey price watched the game last night
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 25 @ 9:04 AM ET
The flyers beat Montreal last playoffs. They are close. That will be the spin somewhere in flyer land.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:08 AM ET
he is 5'7. If he has a great carreer it is an anomaly. I wouldnt say plenty of small guys have been dynamic. Id say Fleury and now maybe Caufield.
- bradster


Marchand, Debrincat, Kaprisov, Zuccarello, Gaudreay, Marchessault have all been pretty dynamic and are 5'9 and under. I'd say some of them are way shorter than that considering how inflated official height/weights tend to be (No way Ennis is 5'9 lol).

That's just active players. Could dig not to far back into history and find dudes like St. Louis, Gionta, Dionne, etc.
Robert's Plant
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jun 25 @ 9:11 AM ET
The flyers beat Montreal last playoffs. They are close. That will be the spin somewhere in flyer land.
- hello it's me 2050


No doubt. Remember...they were one game from the Conference Finals.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:16 AM ET
The flyers beat Montreal last playoffs. They are close. That will be the spin somewhere in flyer land.
- hello it's me 2050


Montreal looks a lot like the 2010 Flyers team, but with Carey Price in net.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:17 AM ET
Marchand, Debrincat, Kaprisov, Zuccarello, Gaudreay, Marchessault have all been pretty dynamic and are 5'9 and under. I'd say some of them are way shorter than that considering how inflated official height/weights tend to be (No way Ennis is 5'9 lol).

That's just active players. Could dig not to far back into history and find dudes like St. Louis, Gionta, Dionne, etc.

- Tomahawk


you win, its not rare for a 5'7" to get drafted in the 1st round and be dynamic lol
Feel better?
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 25 @ 9:26 AM ET
The flyers beat Montreal last playoffs. They are close. That will be the spin somewhere in flyer land.
- hello it's me 2050


lol no it won't.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:31 AM ET
you win, its not rare for a 5'7" to get drafted in the 1st round and be dynamic lol
Feel better?

- bradster


About as rare as one of those dudes that get taken in the 1st because they're huge panning out. See: Sam Morin.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:34 AM ET
About as rare as one of those dudes that get taken in the 1st because they're huge panning out. See: Sam Morin.
- Tomahawk


dont think anyone was talking about that, but we can change the topic if you want.....whats the issue?
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