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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
I would be thrilled if the Canucks added at least 3 new defensemen. Not OEL, at this stage of the rebuild.
- Reubenkincade


I just threw a name out there. There are ways to move Meyers . They may also keep him .
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
I would be thrilled if the Canucks added at least 3 new defensemen. Not OEL, at this stage of the rebuild.
- Reubenkincade


I'd say it's more of a re-tool, the core is in place, just need to surround them with the right players
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
I'd say it's more of a re-tool, the core is in place, just need to surround them with the right players
- Nucker101


Tweak ?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
I don't think you are going to see Hamonic here next year.

I can see Canucks looking into a Myers for OEL swap (Did not say I approve it) . Benn is not coming back , Looks like OJ is on the way out.

I don't really care one way or the other if Edler comes back or not if it is cheap.

- VANTEL

Benning mentioned strong defensive dmen so I can see Hamonic still being in play for Benning depending on how things shake out over these next couple of weeks
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
I don't think you are going to see Hamonic here next year.

I can see Canucks looking into a Myers for OEL swap (Did not say I approve it) . Benn is not coming back , Looks like OJ is on the way out.

I don't really care one way or the other if Edler comes back or not if it is cheap.

- VANTEL


If the canucks add OEL by getting rid of Myers, it will be a massive mistake.

Myers 3 more years at 6aav
OEL 6 more years at 8.25aav

OEL has also regressed like crazy the last 3 years. I'd 100% rather keep Myers and let him play out 3 more years, unless it's Myers for OEL and 50% retained and a high pick coming back to us.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
Tweak ?
- VANTEL

Sure I guess, I just think that the rebuild word makes more sense for a team that doesn't have a good young core yet, Canucks are past that stage.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
I just threw a name out there. There are ways to move Meyers . They may also keep him .
- VANTEL


I wouldn't protect any defensemen. None are worth the space.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
I'd say it's more of a re-tool, the core is in place, just need to surround them with the right players
- Nucker101


Bennings burner confirmed.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
I wouldn't protect any defensemen. None are worth the space.
- Reubenkincade


Thankfully you aren't the GM then
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
Sure I guess, I just think that the rebuild word makes more sense for a team that doesn't have a good young core yet, Canucks are past that stage.
- Nucker101


Debatable.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
I'd say it's more of a re-tool, the core is in place, just need to surround them with the right players
- Nucker101


I like this post, very philosophical. Can you re-tool a re-build that was never really built? What is a foundational player if he is not foundational? Do you know who you are if you're just a dude satirizing a dude disguised as another dude?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
Thankfully you aren't the GM then
- Nucker101

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
I like this post, very philosophical. Can you re-tool a re-build that was never really built? What is a foundational player if he is not foundational? Do you know who you are if you're just a dude satirizing a dude disguised as another dude?
- NewYorkNuck

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
Debatable.
- Reubenkincade


Pettersson
Hughes
Demko
Boeser

All are in the conversation for top players 25 and under at their respective positions. Hoglander just had a fanatic rookie season, if he becomes a better finisher, he'll be on that list as well. Podkolzin also projects to be a core player. Horvat is a great 2C and captain still in his prime. Miller is a power forward in his prime.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
Because they canucks have no other options though. It's not as though he would be there by choice if we had suitable players who could properly play the top 4.
- Codes1087

But didn't you just say there is no difference in their situations? There's a pretty sizable difference.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 24 @ 4:10 PM ET
If the canucks add OEL by getting rid of Myers, it will be a massive mistake.

Myers 3 more years at 6aav
OEL 6 more years at 8.25aav

OEL has also regressed like crazy the last 3 years. I'd 100% rather keep Myers and let him play out 3 more years, unless it's Myers for OEL and 50% retained and a high pick coming back to us.

- Codes1087

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:11 PM ET
I would be thrilled if the Canucks added at least 3 new defensemen. Not OEL, at this stage of the rebuild.
- Reubenkincade

OEL, Hamilton and Seth Jones. N4U to provide the details.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 24 @ 4:12 PM ET
But didn't you just say there is no difference in their situations? There's a pretty sizable difference.
- NorthNuck


I disagree. I think both are in a position to retire and be surpassed by young players. League minimums and acceptance of being 13th forward and 7th D should be the reality for both players and both clubs
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 24 @ 4:13 PM ET
Pettersson
Hughes
Demko
Boeser

All are in the conversation for top players 25 and under at their respective positions. Hoglander just had a fanatic rookie season, if he becomes a better finisher, he'll be on that list as well. Podkolzin also projects to be a core player. Horvat is a great 2C and captain still in his prime. Miller is a power forward in his prime.

- Nucker101

Genuine question, do people use power forward to mean someone who scores and also throws some hits? I don't really see Miller as a guy who intimidates anyone physically or who forces people out of his way. He is physical when it comes to puck retrieval, but I don't think anyone is afraid of playing against him.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 24 @ 4:14 PM ET
OEL, Hamilton and Seth Jones. N4U to provide the details.
- RealityChecker


Easy, LTIRetire the following:

Beagle, Rouss, Eriksson, Virtanen, Holtby, Myers.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 24 @ 4:14 PM ET
I disagree. I think both are in a position to retire and be surpassed by young players. League minimums and acceptance of being 13th forward and 7th D should be the reality for both players and both clubs
- Codes1087

Spezza didn't need to be passed he was already on the 4th line? Edler logged top 4 minutes last year and there isn't anyone on the team who looks ready to bump him down.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:14 PM ET
I like this post, very philosophical. Can you re-tool a re-build that was never really built? What is a foundational player if he is not foundational? Do you know who you are if you're just a dude satirizing a dude disguised as another dude?
- NewYorkNuck

Nah, he's tugg speedman and there's a reason why tugg never won an Oscar.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 24 @ 4:16 PM ET

- NorthNuck


Carolina got a 1st round pick so that Toronto could get out of 1 year of Marleaus contract. Arizona would be shedding 25 million and 3 years of cap space.

https://twitter.com/JFres.../1406464006391541760?s=19

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 24 @ 4:18 PM ET
Spezza didn't need to be passed he was already on the 4th line? Edler logged top 4 minutes last year and there isn't anyone on the team who looks ready to bump him down.
- NorthNuck


If we continue to bring back the same awful D every year, we don't deserve to improve.

Edler again logged top 4 minutes because we had no players who could, so he played way above his weight class. It's time for fresh faces, younger and faster players. Rathbone played 8 games and was unreal in his small sample size. The canucks can go younger+cheaper in the UFA market than Edler as well. It's time to move on
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:19 PM ET
Pettersson
Hughes
Demko
Boeser

All are in the conversation for top players 25 and under at their respective positions. Hoglander just had a fanatic rookie season, if he becomes a better finisher, he'll be on that list as well. Podkolzin also projects to be a core player. Horvat is a great 2C and captain still in his prime. Miller is a power forward in his prime.

- Nucker101

It's a very good core, not everyone will agree, but I like Miller, Pettersson, Boeser, Hoglander, Demko, Rathbone and hoping Podkolzin shows as much promise as Hogs did in his first year.
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