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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 7:00 PM ET
If the Pens were fully healthy once Geno returned, they would need to move a salary quickly, so you'd need someone who could do that.

Basically it only really works for the whole season if the Pens always have a significant salary on long-term IR. But if they at least had someone they know they could move, it could help get through Geno's injury at least.

Probably too risky to try, just something I've been kicking around in my head.

- Tojo.

LTIR doesn’t work that easy.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 28 @ 7:03 PM ET
Bettman is being an incredibly condescending jerk at this press conference.
- Tojo.


What is he covering?

I really wish they’d allow teams one or two compliance buyouts since the flat cap is in place for a few years.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 28 @ 7:08 PM ET
What is he covering?

I really wish they’d allow teams one or two compliance buyouts since the flat cap is in place for a few years.

- Rinosaur


Why would you want that? That provides zero help for the Pens and tons of help for others. I can't think of anyone you would realistically buy out.

Even Matheson, our worst contract. You think the Pens are going to just flush that much money down the drain to dump him? I doubt it.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 28 @ 7:35 PM ET
Why would you want that? That provides zero help for the Pens and tons of help for others. I can't think of anyone you would realistically buy out.

Even Matheson, our worst contract. You think the Pens are going to just flush that much money down the drain to dump him? I doubt it.

- MacPatty

This is actually a good point. We know Ownership is extremely against buy outs and has a self-imposed no buy out rule that they've only broken for Johnson, a completely untenable situation. No reason to think they'd buy out Matheson who provided on-ice value last season.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 8:21 PM ET
If the Pens were fully healthy once Geno returned, they would need to move a salary quickly, so you'd need someone who could do that.

Basically it only really works for the whole season if the Pens always have a significant salary on long-term IR. But if they at least had someone they know they could move, it could help get through Geno's injury at least.

Probably too risky to try, just something I've been kicking around in my head.

- Tojo.


Just have Geno sit the year out with an infected hangnail and be 100% ready for game 1 of the playoffs.... Boom 9.5 Million in capspace for new players
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:01 PM ET
LTIR doesn’t work that easy.
- Feds91Stammer

Can you explain why not? I honestly don't know.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
Can you explain why not? I honestly don't know.
- Tojo.

It’s pretty convoluted but the easiest way to put it is if the cap is 80m and the teams current cap is 79m. You place a 3m player on LTIR you actually only get 2m in relief and have to work under a 79m cap now. It gets more complicated when talking about activating someone and placing someone else on LTIR. The way the calculation works is why you will see those paper moves to manipulate the figure before putting someone on LTIR. It also cripples cap flexibility in terms of making trades.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:39 PM ET
This series is over in 5

Islanders were a much better version of what Montreal has to offer. Price might steal one or the Habs forwards might have a breakthrough game

Isles/Habs would have been interesting

Vegas/Tampa would have been fun

This is gonna suck
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 28 @ 10:44 PM ET
This series is over in 5

Islanders were a much better version of what Montreal has to offer. Price might steal one or the Habs forwards might have a breakthrough game

Isles/Habs would have been interesting

Vegas/Tampa would have been fun

This is gonna suck

- TheGame316


VGK won game 1 against MTL 4-1.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:51 PM ET
VGK won game 1 against MTL 4-1.
- Rinosaur


And?

Tampa is clearly the better team here and MTL already looks like they don't have an answer for it

They don't have the tight defensive structure and physicality the Islanders had to mitigate Tampa's offense
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 28 @ 10:54 PM ET
And?

Tampa is clearly the better team here and MTL already looks like they don't have an answer for it

They don't have the tight defensive structure and physicality the Islanders had to mitigate Tampa's offense

- TheGame316


And? While you may ultimately be right, and I believe Tampa wins this series, I think it’s basing the whole series on Game 1 is dumb.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:56 PM ET
And? While you may ultimately be right, and I believe Tampa wins this weird, I think it’s basing the whole series on Game 1 is dumb.
- Rinosaur


Islanders are better then Montreal and they struggled against Tampa, even though they took them to 7

It isn't a stretch to say this will likely be a short series

But pretend different if it helps you to be entertained
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:59 PM ET
Serious question... does anyone here care if Tampa repeats as champions? That would obviously put them in the same group as the Penguins as the only teams to repeat in the salary cap era.

Is being first the only important part of this or is being the only team the more important part? For me, I dont care how many teams repeat... I think its cool the Penguins did it first.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:09 PM ET
Islanders are better then Montreal and they struggled against Tampa, even though they took them to 7

It isn't a stretch to say this will likely be a short series

But pretend different if it helps you to be entertained

- TheGame316


Never said a short series is a stretch. I said basing it all on Game 1 is dumb, which it is.

Colorado beat VGK in 7-1 in Game 1 and most people believed COL was the better team before the series started, and then thought it was over after Game 1.


TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:16 PM ET
Never said a short series is a stretch. I said basing it all on Game 1 is dumb, which it is.

Colorado beat VGK in 7-1 in Game 1 and most people believed COL was the better team before the series started, and then thought it was over after Game 1.

- Rinosaur


Who says I was basing it on Game 1?

I expected Tampa would have an easier time generating offense against Montreal than they did against the Isles and The Habs defense wouldn't be as effective in stopping them

Game 1 just confirmed my suspicions on what I already expected would happen
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:19 PM ET
Who says I was basing it on Game 1?

I expected Tampa would have an easier time generating offense against Montreal than they did against the Isles and The Habs defense wouldn't be as effective in stopping them

Game 1 just confirmed my suspicions on what I already expected would happen

- TheGame316


You literally just based it all on Game 1.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:20 PM ET
Never said a short series is a stretch. I said basing it all on Game 1 is dumb, which it is.

Colorado beat VGK in 7-1 in Game 1 and most people believed COL was the better team before the series started, and then thought it was over after Game 1.

- Rinosaur


Easy to see that Colorado just had over a week off, played a tired Vegas team with a Cold Lehner in net

What is the Habs excuse?
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:22 PM ET
You literally just based it all on Game 1.
- Rinosaur


Montreal played like I expected them to play. Tampa played like I expected them to play

Based on those expectations and what played out in the actual game, I said I expect this will be a short series

Why would I expect anything different for the rest of the series?

Neither team offers any surprises at this point in the playoffs. They both are what they are
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:44 PM ET
You literally just based it all on Game 1.
- Rinosaur

His post literally said nothing about game 1.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:27 AM ET
They are outmatched, but don't count on the Canadiens to fold. They will have a better game 2.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 29 @ 5:56 AM ET
And?

Tampa is clearly the better team here and MTL already looks like they don't have an answer for it

They don't have the tight defensive structure and physicality the Islanders had to mitigate Tampa's offense

- TheGame316


3 of the 4 teams the Pens played in the 2017 run played better than the Pens. Pens were severely outplayed at times. I wouldn't argue that Tampa isn't a better team than Habs, who could possibly do that with a straight face? But the better on paper or on the ice team doesn't always win.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:15 AM ET
Serious question... does anyone here care if Tampa repeats as champions? That would obviously put them in the same group as the Penguins as the only teams to repeat in the salary cap era.

Is being first the only important part of this or is being the only team the more important part? For me, I dont care how many teams repeat... I think its cool the Penguins did it first.

- SuperHenderson13

I care in a fun sports fan kind of way. Kinda in the same way my dad has fun with Dolphins being the only team to go undefeated in the NFL. I enjoy the bragging right but it's not going to ruin my day when another team inevitably repeats. I just prefer it to not be this Lightning team.

Can't believe I'm actively rooting for Canada's Cup drought to end. Never thought I'd see the day.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:54 AM ET
Serious question... does anyone here care if Tampa repeats as champions? That would obviously put them in the same group as the Penguins as the only teams to repeat in the salary cap era.

Is being first the only important part of this or is being the only team the more important part? For me, I dont care how many teams repeat... I think its cool the Penguins did it first.

- SuperHenderson13



I would really like the Pens to solely own that distinction. Plus, if the Bolts do repeat, they could very well 3peat and then they're in true dynasty talks. Not to mention if they do it this year its with all the shady cap maneuvering and sh!t. I ask myself are the Bolts in the final without Kucherov?...and Im not so sure the answer is yes, it is however very possible.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 29 @ 8:06 AM ET
I would really like the Pens to solely own that distinction. Plus, if the Bolts do repeat, they could very well 3peat and then they're in true dynasty talks. Not to mention if they do it this year its with all the shady cap maneuvering and sh!t. I ask myself are the Bolts in the final without Kucherov?...and Im not so sure the answer is yes, it is however very possible.
- MattStrat

I love the cap related butthurt.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 29 @ 8:24 AM ET
Serious question... does anyone here care if Tampa repeats as champions? That would obviously put them in the same group as the Penguins as the only teams to repeat in the salary cap era.

Is being first the only important part of this or is being the only team the more important part? For me, I dont care how many teams repeat... I think its cool the Penguins did it first.

- SuperHenderson13


They cheated... they don't deserve it. And while people will argue it fits within league rules, to me its the equivalent of a guy doing steroids and not getting caught. Kucherov = Lance Armstrong.

Frankly, as far as I am concerned, they are the *asterisk* champions.

*2019 - Covid lockdown bubble champs
*2020 - Cheat the salary cap champs.

Go Habs!
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