Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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If the Pens were fully healthy once Geno returned, they would need to move a salary quickly, so you'd need someone who could do that.
Basically it only really works for the whole season if the Pens always have a significant salary on long-term IR. But if they at least had someone they know they could move, it could help get through Geno's injury at least.
Probably too risky to try, just something I've been kicking around in my head. - Tojo.
LTIR doesn’t work that easy. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Bettman is being an incredibly condescending jerk at this press conference. - Tojo.
What is he covering?
I really wish they’d allow teams one or two compliance buyouts since the flat cap is in place for a few years.
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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What is he covering?
I really wish they’d allow teams one or two compliance buyouts since the flat cap is in place for a few years. - Rinosaur
Why would you want that? That provides zero help for the Pens and tons of help for others. I can't think of anyone you would realistically buy out.
Even Matheson, our worst contract. You think the Pens are going to just flush that much money down the drain to dump him? I doubt it. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Why would you want that? That provides zero help for the Pens and tons of help for others. I can't think of anyone you would realistically buy out.
Even Matheson, our worst contract. You think the Pens are going to just flush that much money down the drain to dump him? I doubt it. - MacPatty
This is actually a good point. We know Ownership is extremely against buy outs and has a self-imposed no buy out rule that they've only broken for Johnson, a completely untenable situation. No reason to think they'd buy out Matheson who provided on-ice value last season. |
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If the Pens were fully healthy once Geno returned, they would need to move a salary quickly, so you'd need someone who could do that.
Basically it only really works for the whole season if the Pens always have a significant salary on long-term IR. But if they at least had someone they know they could move, it could help get through Geno's injury at least.
Probably too risky to try, just something I've been kicking around in my head. - Tojo.
Just have Geno sit the year out with an infected hangnail and be 100% ready for game 1 of the playoffs.... Boom 9.5 Million in capspace for new players
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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LTIR doesn’t work that easy. - Feds91Stammer
Can you explain why not? I honestly don't know. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Can you explain why not? I honestly don't know. - Tojo.
It’s pretty convoluted but the easiest way to put it is if the cap is 80m and the teams current cap is 79m. You place a 3m player on LTIR you actually only get 2m in relief and have to work under a 79m cap now. It gets more complicated when talking about activating someone and placing someone else on LTIR. The way the calculation works is why you will see those paper moves to manipulate the figure before putting someone on LTIR. It also cripples cap flexibility in terms of making trades. |
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This series is over in 5
Islanders were a much better version of what Montreal has to offer. Price might steal one or the Habs forwards might have a breakthrough game
Isles/Habs would have been interesting
Vegas/Tampa would have been fun
This is gonna suck |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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This series is over in 5
Islanders were a much better version of what Montreal has to offer. Price might steal one or the Habs forwards might have a breakthrough game
Isles/Habs would have been interesting
Vegas/Tampa would have been fun
This is gonna suck - TheGame316
VGK won game 1 against MTL 4-1.
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VGK won game 1 against MTL 4-1. - Rinosaur
And?
Tampa is clearly the better team here and MTL already looks like they don't have an answer for it
They don't have the tight defensive structure and physicality the Islanders had to mitigate Tampa's offense
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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And?
Tampa is clearly the better team here and MTL already looks like they don't have an answer for it
They don't have the tight defensive structure and physicality the Islanders had to mitigate Tampa's offense - TheGame316
And? While you may ultimately be right, and I believe Tampa wins this series, I think it’s basing the whole series on Game 1 is dumb. |
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And? While you may ultimately be right, and I believe Tampa wins this weird, I think it’s basing the whole series on Game 1 is dumb. - Rinosaur
Islanders are better then Montreal and they struggled against Tampa, even though they took them to 7
It isn't a stretch to say this will likely be a short series
But pretend different if it helps you to be entertained
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Serious question... does anyone here care if Tampa repeats as champions? That would obviously put them in the same group as the Penguins as the only teams to repeat in the salary cap era.
Is being first the only important part of this or is being the only team the more important part? For me, I dont care how many teams repeat... I think its cool the Penguins did it first. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Islanders are better then Montreal and they struggled against Tampa, even though they took them to 7
It isn't a stretch to say this will likely be a short series
But pretend different if it helps you to be entertained - TheGame316
Never said a short series is a stretch. I said basing it all on Game 1 is dumb, which it is.
Colorado beat VGK in 7-1 in Game 1 and most people believed COL was the better team before the series started, and then thought it was over after Game 1.
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Never said a short series is a stretch. I said basing it all on Game 1 is dumb, which it is.
Colorado beat VGK in 7-1 in Game 1 and most people believed COL was the better team before the series started, and then thought it was over after Game 1. - Rinosaur
Who says I was basing it on Game 1?
I expected Tampa would have an easier time generating offense against Montreal than they did against the Isles and The Habs defense wouldn't be as effective in stopping them
Game 1 just confirmed my suspicions on what I already expected would happen |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Who says I was basing it on Game 1?
I expected Tampa would have an easier time generating offense against Montreal than they did against the Isles and The Habs defense wouldn't be as effective in stopping them
Game 1 just confirmed my suspicions on what I already expected would happen - TheGame316
You literally just based it all on Game 1. |
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Never said a short series is a stretch. I said basing it all on Game 1 is dumb, which it is.
Colorado beat VGK in 7-1 in Game 1 and most people believed COL was the better team before the series started, and then thought it was over after Game 1. - Rinosaur
Easy to see that Colorado just had over a week off, played a tired Vegas team with a Cold Lehner in net
What is the Habs excuse?
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You literally just based it all on Game 1. - Rinosaur
Montreal played like I expected them to play. Tampa played like I expected them to play
Based on those expectations and what played out in the actual game, I said I expect this will be a short series
Why would I expect anything different for the rest of the series?
Neither team offers any surprises at this point in the playoffs. They both are what they are
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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You literally just based it all on Game 1. - Rinosaur
His post literally said nothing about game 1. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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They are outmatched, but don't count on the Canadiens to fold. They will have a better game 2. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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And?
Tampa is clearly the better team here and MTL already looks like they don't have an answer for it
They don't have the tight defensive structure and physicality the Islanders had to mitigate Tampa's offense - TheGame316
3 of the 4 teams the Pens played in the 2017 run played better than the Pens. Pens were severely outplayed at times. I wouldn't argue that Tampa isn't a better team than Habs, who could possibly do that with a straight face? But the better on paper or on the ice team doesn't always win. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Serious question... does anyone here care if Tampa repeats as champions? That would obviously put them in the same group as the Penguins as the only teams to repeat in the salary cap era.
Is being first the only important part of this or is being the only team the more important part? For me, I dont care how many teams repeat... I think its cool the Penguins did it first. - SuperHenderson13
I care in a fun sports fan kind of way. Kinda in the same way my dad has fun with Dolphins being the only team to go undefeated in the NFL. I enjoy the bragging right but it's not going to ruin my day when another team inevitably repeats. I just prefer it to not be this Lightning team.
Can't believe I'm actively rooting for Canada's Cup drought to end. Never thought I'd see the day. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Serious question... does anyone here care if Tampa repeats as champions? That would obviously put them in the same group as the Penguins as the only teams to repeat in the salary cap era.
Is being first the only important part of this or is being the only team the more important part? For me, I dont care how many teams repeat... I think its cool the Penguins did it first. - SuperHenderson13
I would really like the Pens to solely own that distinction. Plus, if the Bolts do repeat, they could very well 3peat and then they're in true dynasty talks. Not to mention if they do it this year its with all the shady cap maneuvering and sh!t. I ask myself are the Bolts in the final without Kucherov?...and Im not so sure the answer is yes, it is however very possible. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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I would really like the Pens to solely own that distinction. Plus, if the Bolts do repeat, they could very well 3peat and then they're in true dynasty talks. Not to mention if they do it this year its with all the shady cap maneuvering and sh!t. I ask myself are the Bolts in the final without Kucherov?...and Im not so sure the answer is yes, it is however very possible. - MattStrat
I love the cap related butthurt. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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Serious question... does anyone here care if Tampa repeats as champions? That would obviously put them in the same group as the Penguins as the only teams to repeat in the salary cap era.
Is being first the only important part of this or is being the only team the more important part? For me, I dont care how many teams repeat... I think its cool the Penguins did it first. - SuperHenderson13
They cheated... they don't deserve it. And while people will argue it fits within league rules, to me its the equivalent of a guy doing steroids and not getting caught. Kucherov = Lance Armstrong.
Frankly, as far as I am concerned, they are the *asterisk* champions.
*2019 - Covid lockdown bubble champs
*2020 - Cheat the salary cap champs.
Go Habs! |
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