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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 7 @ 10:45 AM ET
1.) You do not have untouchable prospects

2.) Your cap problems are your cap problems




Eat stool!

- Hank Balling



absolute classic
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 7 @ 10:46 AM ET
No way I'd take Henrique without Zegras and 3
- Hank Balling



A team isn’t trading for Eichel unless a cap dump is coming back built into the trade. Not gonna add more to give us a cap dump. Eichel makes 10 million dollars.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 10:46 AM ET
I dont hate that. As long as we get Zegras + Gibson or Drysdale + picks.
- Sabretooth9

ducks are not trading for eichel and moving gibson to have a hole in net

they would be trading for eichel to ensure they are not wasting gibson's years left
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 10:47 AM ET
While I agree, that sounds awfully similar to the ROR situation. Throwing a lot of pieces together can still equate to garbage.
- IceColdBeer

Well of course, but that can be put into context with any prospect.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 10:47 AM ET
ducks are not trading for eichel and moving gibson to have a hole in net

they would be trading for eichel to ensure they are not wasting gibson's years left

- homiedclown

Exactly, maybe Dostal
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 7 @ 10:48 AM ET
A team isn’t trading for Eichel unless a cap dump is coming back built into the trade. Not gonna add more to give us a cap dump. Eichel makes 10 million dollars.
- Fattony1187


That's fine. I'd take Berglund and Sobotka but I'd want the good poop.

Otherwise dump your problems elsewhere
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
It's not amazing that's for sure

But Adams is holding firm so that won't be the final deal

- Stripes77


The big question is if he'd take that deal on draft day, if it was the best offer.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 7 @ 10:50 AM ET
A team isn’t trading for Eichel unless a cap dump is coming back built into the trade. Not gonna add more to give us a cap dump. Eichel makes 10 million dollars.
- Fattony1187


Do you have sources saying this, or is this your logic?
Just curious.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 7 @ 10:50 AM ET
Well Stripes just put out a few, but Mclaughlin and Dostal names have been mentioned. Kupari, Kaliyev, Turcotte, Vilardi, Bjornfot are all names being thrown around. Calgary and Buffalo have been talking a lot.
- Buff36

Fair enough. And any of those names could have more of an impact than any of the big-name prospects already mentioned. Drysdale, Bjornfort or the rags lundqvist all would be good alternatives, but imo, they're not zegras, byfield or lafreniere, which should be the get for a top-10 center just entering his prime who's signed for five more years
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
Will they?

This is going to be the season before they tanked for McDavid bad, possibly worse.

People watched because they were excited about McDavid.

There is not going to be that excitement this time around its going to be apathy, the arena is going to be empty and the TV ratings are going to be awful.

- ImThatGuy


I think they will be

There is at least high end talent on this team with Dahlin

I think Granato did well with what he was given.
Losman
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 7 @ 10:59 AM ET
I’ve heard that KA doesn’t want any one player coming back in the Eichel trade to be a centrepiece. There would be too much pressure on that player to fill Jack’s skates. Instead they want at least 3 equivalent level prospects so that there won’t be one that fans and media identify as Jack’s replacement. So no Byfield, Zegras type players. Instead look for the next tier down of prospects.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 7 @ 11:00 AM ET
No way I'd take Henrique without Zegras and 3
- Hank Balling


Meh, Comtois, Drysdale, and 3 I would. To each their own.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 7 @ 11:01 AM ET
I don't think they're going to get all of that

Comtois Perrault Henrique and 3rd overall was Anaheim's counter

Right now it's either Comtois and 3rd overall or just Zegras not the 3rd overall (plus the other pieces)

- Stripes77



Then you keep eichel and tell the ducks tough luck. He has 5 years left. You cant trade him for trash.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 11:02 AM ET
Fair enough. And any of those names could have more of an impact than any of the big-name prospects already mentioned. Drysdale, Bjornfort or the rags lundqvist all would be good alternatives, but imo, they're not zegras, byfield or lafreniere, which should be the get for a top-10 center just entering his prime who's signed for five more years
- Michael Pachla

I hear what you are saying, but think people need to prepare for other things. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but just need to think of other things
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 7 @ 11:02 AM ET
I’ve heard that KA doesn’t want any one player coming back in the Eichel trade to be a centrepiece. There would be too much pressure on that player to fill Jack’s skates. Instead they want at least 3 equivalent level prospects so that there won’t be one that fans and media identify as Jack’s replacement. So no Byfield, Zegras type players. Instead look for the next tier down of prospects.
- Losman


Woof
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 7 @ 11:03 AM ET
I hear what you are saying, but think people need to prepare for other things. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but just need to think of other things
- Buff36


This isn't a cut and dry trade here

Contract, Health, etc are all variables

It's going to be a factor here
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 7 @ 11:04 AM ET
I’ve heard that KA doesn’t want any one player coming back in the Eichel trade to be a centrepiece. There would be too much pressure on that player to fill Jack’s skates. Instead they want at least 3 equivalent level prospects so that there won’t be one that fans and media identify as Jack’s replacement. So no Byfield, Zegras type players. Instead look for the next tier down of prospects.
- Losman

as logical as this sounds, and this is not against you, this sounds as if he's setting up sabreland for a sub-par return
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 7 @ 11:05 AM ET
Meh, Comtois, Drysdale, and 3 I would. To each their own.
- SDSabre

that could very well be it
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 7 @ 11:06 AM ET
Do you have sources saying this, or is this your logic?
Just curious.

- IonSabres



It’s common sense. There is a salary cap
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 7 @ 11:07 AM ET
I hear what you are saying, but think people need to prepare for other things. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but just need to think of other things
- Buff36

i'm with ya...that post from jp above sounds as if sabres pr is getting ready to soften the blow of a sub-par return on a jack trade
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:11 AM ET
that could very well be it
- Michael Pachla


Honestly wouldn’t hate it. I think we’re targeting D prospects in trade and focusing early on forwards in the draft.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 7 @ 11:11 AM ET
I’ve heard that KA doesn’t want any one player coming back in the Eichel trade to be a centrepiece. There would be too much pressure on that player to fill Jack’s skates. Instead they want at least 3 equivalent level prospects so that there won’t be one that fans and media identify as Jack’s replacement. So no Byfield, Zegras type players. Instead look for the next tier down of prospects.
- Losman



I think it’s more likely he wants a top player but every team has told him no.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:12 AM ET
as logical as this sounds, and this is not against you, this sounds as if he's setting up sabreland for a sub-par return
- Michael Pachla



Unless someone is quoting Adams as saying this, I don't believe it for one second.

The word around the league is that Adams might be asking TOO much.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 7 @ 11:12 AM ET
I think it’s more likely he wants a top player but every team has told him no.
- Fattony1187


Then you keep eichel for 5 years and end all the trade rumors.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:12 AM ET
I think it’s more likely he wants a top player but every team has told him no.
- Fattony1187



They don't have to trade Jack. Adams needs to set the market, not other teams.
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