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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 7 @ 11:13 AM ET
that could very well be it
- Michael Pachla


Comtois, Drysdale, Eklund, Perrault, and AH is a healthy return imo. With Drysdale as the high end D prospect, also allows you to take Matty B as well. You walk away winners like that.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
This isn't a cut and dry trade here

Contract, Health, etc are all variables

It's going to be a factor here

- Stripes77

That's it Stripes, people need to understand this, this injury is a big thing. And a Cap dump is happening with almost every team that would be involved.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 7 @ 11:15 AM ET
I’ve heard that KA doesn’t want any one player coming back in the Eichel trade to be a centrepiece. There would be too much pressure on that player to fill Jack’s skates. Instead they want at least 3 equivalent level prospects so that there won’t be one that fans and media identify as Jack’s replacement. So no Byfield, Zegras type players. Instead look for the next tier down of prospects.
- Losman

If that's true, boy oh boy the Sabres are in some scary hands
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:17 AM ET
If that's true, boy oh boy the Sabres are in some scary hands
- OneKaneOneCup



It's 100% true.

Spread the word.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 11:18 AM ET
Just because counter offers are coming in doesn't mean the deal is done. Adams is playing the game and holding his cards tight. There's teams involved so Adams has what he wants right know, the phone ringing.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 7 @ 11:19 AM ET
It's 100% true.

Spread the word.

- Powerslave

I don't buy it.

Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:21 AM ET
I don't buy it.
- OneKaneOneCup



I don't either.

But that's what happens around here in Sabreland. Someone "heard" something, and then many pass it around as gospel, and then it takes on a life of its own.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 7 @ 11:22 AM ET
I don't buy it.
- OneKaneOneCup


I hope it's not true. That philosophy is essentially admitting defeat.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 11:22 AM ET
I don't either.

But that's what happens around here in Sabreland. Someone "heard" something, and then many pass it around as gospel, and then it takes on a life of its own.

- Powerslave

Blasphemy!!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:23 AM ET
Gross
- Hank Balling


Chad D's deal was: 3OA or Zegras, Comtois, Gibson, Perrault

Anaheim and Buffalo are extremely close here, if this was the deal. Maybe Buffalo wants Gibson and they're adamant we take Henrique? Or moreso, maybe Sabres want Zegras AND 3OA and cap dumps. Would love to hear the Sabres counter, or what they're standing pat on.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 11:23 AM ET
I don't either.

But that's what happens around here in Sabreland. Someone "heard" something, and then many pass it around as gospel, and then it takes on a life of its own.

- Powerslave

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 11:24 AM ET
I hope it's not true. That philosophy is essentially admitting defeat.
- Hank Balling

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Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 7 @ 11:26 AM ET
That's fine. I'd take Berglund and Sobotka but I'd want the good poop.

Otherwise dump your problems elsewhere

- Hank Balling


So you want the tallest prospect on a team’s roster, a cap dump and Eakin 2.0 for jack.

Where’s my stool…
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:27 AM ET
"I would say at this point that it’s very likely that the third overall pick will be included in this deal if it happens. If the Adams is able to pull one of Zegras or Drysdale out of Bob Murray in addition to that top three pick; you won’t see much beyond that. The Sabres would likely only get one more tier three asset and may have to provide a conditional pick back to the Ducks.

At this time, I’m told there’s a good amount of discussion around conditions in a potential trade to protect the team acquiring Eichel in the case his neck injury does keep him out of games in the next year or two."
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:29 AM ET
Strange to me that this topic keeps coming back up. You're right on these.

Tokarski is the only G who meets the exposure requirements. The is no GP requirement for G's. He's going to be exposed.

You don't have to protect a G and you can protect UFA's. If there isn't a trade, you just protect Ullmark because you can.

- Lunaion


Once I figured this out, everything made sense.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 11:29 AM ET
"I would say at this point that it’s very likely that the third overall pick will be included in this deal if it happens. If the Adams is able to pull one of Zegras or Drysdale out of Bob Murray in addition to that top three pick; you won’t see much beyond that. The Sabres would likely only get one more tier three asset and may have to provide a conditional pick back to the Ducks.

At this time, I’m told there’s a good amount of discussion around conditions in a potential trade to protect the team acquiring Eichel in the case his neck injury does keep him out of games in the next year or two."

- TheSabresTaco

But the neck Injury won't affect anything, think I heard that a lot!!🤔🤔
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 7 @ 11:30 AM ET
I’ve heard that KA doesn’t want any one player coming back in the Eichel trade to be a centrepiece. There would be too much pressure on that player to fill Jack’s skates. Instead they want at least 3 equivalent level prospects so that there won’t be one that fans and media identify as Jack’s replacement. So no Byfield, Zegras type players. Instead look for the next tier down of prospects.
- Losman


I guess I can understand the thinking. But it’s the dumbest idea yet. Please, don’t give me your best prospect, give me 3 average ones…. Because the best prospect might feel pressure from the cranky fans. You absolutely go after a teams top prospect.
Be better KA….
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 7 @ 11:31 AM ET
Unless someone is quoting Adams as saying this, I don't believe it for one second.

The word around the league is that Adams might be asking TOO much.

- Powerslave

i've heard and red the same thing...i guess it'll all depend on the size of his kahunas
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 7 @ 11:31 AM ET
I’ve heard that KA doesn’t want any one player coming back in the Eichel trade to be a centrepiece. There would be too much pressure on that player to fill Jack’s skates. Instead they want at least 3 equivalent level prospects so that there won’t be one that fans and media identify as Jack’s replacement. So no Byfield, Zegras type players. Instead look for the next tier down of prospects.
- Losman



That sounds like a good way to spin it...lower expectations.
I think is is a wrong approach if indeed thos is true what he is after.
So, I call bullpoop...it would be like trading the 1-OA for picks 13, 15 and 18..just to relieve high expectations associated with 1-OA
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:32 AM ET
But the neck Injury won't affect anything, think I heard that a lot!!🤔🤔
- Buff36



You good with Zegras/Drysdale +3?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 7 @ 11:35 AM ET
"I would say at this point that it’s very likely that the third overall pick will be included in this deal if it happens. If the Adams is able to pull one of Zegras or Drysdale out of Bob Murray in addition to that top three pick; you won’t see much beyond that. The Sabres would likely only get one more tier three asset and may have to provide a conditional pick back to the Ducks.

At this time, I’m told there’s a good amount of discussion around conditions in a potential trade to protect the team acquiring Eichel in the case his neck injury does keep him out of games in the next year or two."

- TheSabresTaco



Terrible approach. If that's the return then you let him get the surgery

Conditional pick the other way? Brutal
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 11:36 AM ET
I would think given the expansion draft coming before the nhl draft


any team sending 2 or more roster players out for Jack, would want the trade to happen before the expansion draft

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 11:37 AM ET
Terrible approach. If that's the return then you let him get the surgery

Conditional pick the other way? Brutal

- Hank Balling

sabres refuse to budge on the surgery

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:37 AM ET
Terrible approach. If that's the return then you let him get the surgery

Conditional pick the other way? Brutal

- Hank Balling


So 3OA, Zegras, Henrique and a B prospect isn't good enough to you?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:38 AM ET
sabres refuse to budge on the surgery
- homiedclown



Nor should they.

Compromise on fusion surgery if he really wants to go under the knife.
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