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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 7 @ 12:10 PM ET
Not hoping. But sounds like that’s what Anaheim is hoping. I would not like such things….

I may have miss read post as I was supposed to be working.

- Gr8daygo






Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 7 @ 12:11 PM ET
that is not NEARLY though .........


Why are people giving away eichel today for free?

- Sabretooth9


That's not the final package that is where it starts


Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 7 @ 12:13 PM ET
So I know lots here seem pretty convinced Eichel is gone

If the keep him, either because they asked for too much or were not trading him anyways, would this have been the best chance to trade him?

I believe his clauses kick in next year so he has the power to decide where he is traded to which could limit the return, still will get a very good return but with him deciding that hurts the potential return or would you just keep him and hope he doesn't bring the team down if he isn't being a team player?

This is assuming he is healthy

- dmarsden2988


They could move him early next off-season, before the NMC kicks in. Big risk to bring him back when he clearly doesn't want to be here. If he misses much time or doesn't put up strong numbers, it would make things even more difficult than they are now.

I think they are going to take the best offer they can get before the draft.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 7 @ 12:15 PM ET
They could move him early next off-season, before the NMC kicks in. Big risk to bring him back when he clearly doesn't want to be here. If he misses much time or doesn't put up strong numbers, it would make things even more difficult than they are now.

I think they are going to take the best offer they can get before the draft.

- Lunaion


I think it'd be cool to have the trade on draft day right at the 3rd pick.

Never really see many trades at draft and deffs not the size like this one has the potential to be.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 12:16 PM ET
that is not NEARLY though .........


Why are people giving away eichel today for free?

- Sabretooth9

That would not be the whole package
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 7 @ 12:22 PM ET
That would not be the whole package
- Buff36


Whole … package…

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 7 @ 12:35 PM ET
Between Eichel and Reinhart getting traded or our #1 pick you are getting a center there. I agree.

You either get the center in a trade or get a defenseman in the trades and then taking Beniers at number 1

- Fattony1187


The bold is the crux of my disagreement, as it's not either for me, it's both as I'm looking for 2 Centers, not one.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 7 @ 12:35 PM ET
So, reportedly, most teams agree with the Sabres on Eichel's rehab (no surgery). Interesting.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 7 @ 12:43 PM ET
So, reportedly, most teams agree with the Sabres on Eichel's rehab (no surgery). Interesting.
- RhinoFan



I don't think there would be a lot of teams that would be okay with doing a surgery on their franchise center that has never been done on a professional hockey player before.
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 7 @ 12:52 PM ET
So, reportedly, most teams agree with the Sabres on Eichel's rehab (no surgery). Interesting.
- RhinoFan


Doesn’t surprise me. Why trade all that capital just to risk it on an unproven surgery

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 7 @ 12:58 PM ET
Sure, But does this change your mind:

Zegras, Power, Eklund

OR

Drysdale, Benier, Eklund

Both would look really good to me, and if that's the case I'm down

- SDSabre


I'd by far prefer this to either of the above:

Zegras, Beniers, Eklund
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 7 @ 12:58 PM ET
So, reportedly, most teams agree with the Sabres on Eichel's rehab (no surgery). Interesting.
- RhinoFan


Couldn't that be considered tampering if they are talking about Eichel when not on their team?

It's even gray area if they talk about that surgery when everyone can put the dots together and see who they are talking about without naming who it is
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 7 @ 12:59 PM ET
Couldn't that be considered tampering if they are talking about Eichel when not on their team?

It's even gray area if they talk about that surgery when everyone can put the dots together and see who they are talking about without naming who it is

- dmarsden2988



It's not tampering if they get permission to speak to Jack and or his agent

Also could be leaked by the Sabres that other teams are agreeing with them and their doctors.

Basically it is all a game
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 7 @ 1:03 PM ET
Couldn't that be considered tampering if they are talking about Eichel when not on their team?

It's even gray area if they talk about that surgery when everyone can put the dots together and see who they are talking about without naming who it is

- dmarsden2988


That's why no one is doing it publicly.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:08 PM ET
It's not tampering if they get permission to speak to Jack and or his agent

Also could be leaked by the Sabres that other teams are agreeing with them and their doctors.

Basically it is all a game

- Stripes77


Plot twist. Eichel's camp and the Union sue the league for collusion.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
I don't think there would be a lot of teams that would be okay with doing a surgery on their franchise center (that they gave up a boatload of assets for) that has never been done on a professional hockey player before.
- Stripes77


Fixed.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
I'd by far prefer this to either of the above:

Zegras, Beniers, Eklund

- kingcong39


To each their own. Our defensive depth and star power at the position isn't nearly as flush as some believe, in my opinion. Always good to restock everything as opposed to doing one thing at a time imo.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 7 @ 1:12 PM ET
Couldn't that be considered tampering if they are talking about Eichel when not on their team?

It's even gray area if they talk about that surgery when everyone can put the dots together and see who they are talking about without naming who it is

- dmarsden2988


Or Buffalo leaks this info, so in the court of public opinion they aren't the bad guys with Eichel, but actually are in line, and being very "reasonable" just like most teams would do
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:12 PM ET
Compromise. Here's a conditional 6th rounder. GFYS (Ducks, not you Hank)
- SDSabre


Here's a counter to the Ducks conditional pick request

Ducks get a 2nd in 2023 if he doesn't have an 80 point season in the next two years. If he does, Sabres get the Ducks 2023 2nd instead

(In addition to the actual trade package)

If the Ducks are really worried about his health, they take the deal.

My guess is they decline which ends the conditional pick talk
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 7 @ 1:12 PM ET
Plot twist. Eichel's camp and the Union sue the league for collusion.
- buffalofan19



Have fun in the KHL
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 7 @ 1:13 PM ET
Plot twist. Eichel's camp and the Union sue the league for collusion.
- buffalofan19


He wouldn't get very far on that.

If anything they would go to medical arbitration first
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:16 PM ET
To each their own. Our defensive depth and star power at the position isn't nearly as flush as some believe, in my opinion. Always good to restock everything as opposed to doing one thing at a time imo.
- SDSabre

Power, Zegras, Eklund would be a good haul for Buffalo this off season. Plus, whatever they get back in a trade for skunk
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 7 @ 1:17 PM ET
He wouldn't get very far on that.

If anything they would go to medical arbitration first

- Stripes77

surprised that has not already happened
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
He wouldn't get very far on that.

If anything they would go to medical arbitration first

- Stripes77

Yes, and if things weren't progressing, Eichel's camp would have went to Arbitration already.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
Power, Zegras, Eklund would be a good haul for Buffalo this off season. Plus, whatever they get back in a trade for skunk
- Michael Pachla


Indeed. If it would be Drysdale, Benny, and Eklund I could live with that too. Preference to the above though, although it sounds like Ana is balking at the idea of that.
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