might as well bump this too
- SabresFaninIndiana

Id bump it, twice....

Id bump it, twice....
- ImThatGuy

Id bump Tim Stutzle, twice....
- ImThatGuy

FTFY

I am hoping Dean Chynoweth gets a call.
- Powerslave

Nice!! Would not mind that.

FTFY
- RichardRoma

He is quite dreamy. I mean look at him. You know you can resist that smile.

- Stripes77

Take some deep breathes.

Take some deep breathes.
- Buff36

you don't tell him what to do..

but seriously is this gonna happen soon..

you don't tell him what to do..

but seriously is this gonna happen soon..
- SabresFaninIndiana

I really can't tell you that other than there exchanging names. Think Stripes said earlier his injury is affecting things. The 2 out in California seem to be pushing the hardest, but there's other teams Minnesota,NY and Calgary and Buffalo have talked a lot.

I really can't tell you that other than there exchanging names. Think Stripes said earlier his injury is affecting things. The 2 out in California seem to be pushing the hardest, but there's other teams Minnesota,NY and Calgary and Buffalo have talked a lot.
- Buff36

I wouldn't be surprised if somebody like Vegas swoops in at the last minute and trades for Jack. The reality is that one team is going to be VERY lucky to have Eichel on their roster. And Eichel could be the ingredient to put said team over the top. At the very least, it will make that team very competitive in short order. I cannot imagine how unhappy the Kings would be if the Ducks got Eichel and had to play against him for the next 5-years minimum. Or vice versa.

Anyway, I am in the corner that unless KA gets a really good deal for Jack, he shouldn't move him. He has a contract and his NMC doesn't kick in until next summer. The only pressure that KA is feeling about making a trade now - for a potentially lousy return - is the pressure KA is putting on himself to get it done.

Or perhaps Kim and Terry want Jack gone ASAP and KA has his marching orders?

Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.
- Powerslave

oh my

Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.
- Powerslave

Noiiiice

I wouldn't be surprised if somebody like Vegas swoops in at the last minute and trades for Jack. The reality is that one team is going to be VERY lucky to have Eichel on their roster. And Eichel could be the ingredient to put said team over the top. At the very least, it will make that team very competitive in short order. I cannot imagine how unhappy the Kings would be if the Ducks got Eichel and had to play against him for the next 5-years minimum. Or vice versa.

Anyway, I am in the corner that unless KA gets a really good deal for Jack, he shouldn't move him. He has a contract and his NMC doesn't kick in until next summer. The only pressure that KA is feeling about making a trade now - for a potentially lousy return - is the pressure KA is putting on himself to get it done.

Or perhaps Kim and Terry want Jack gone ASAP and KA has his marching orders?
- SabreWest

I think this says it all

I think this says it all
- Leninthebuff

From what I have been told, the Pegulas tried to make him happy to stay

Talked about things like having input on the coaching hire, trading for more high end wingers, etc

Jack wants out.

It's on KA to get the best deal

Id bump it, twice....
- ImThatGuy

And then:

"I'm sorry, that never happens..."

And then:

"I'm sorry, that never happens..."
- Wetbandit1

They make pills for that now

I don't think there would be a lot of teams that would be okay with doing a surgery on their franchise center that has never been done on a professional hockey player before.
- Stripes77

I don't blame them either, just wonder if that might trigger a coming down to earth moment for old Jackie boy. It's one thing to think the franchise is inept, there's plenty of evidence of that, to be told you're dreaming if you think you're getting that done by others is something else.

They make pills for that now
- Powerslave

😃😃😃😁

From what I have been told, the Pegulas tried to make him happy to stay

Talked about things like having input on the coaching hire, trading for more high end wingers, etc

Jack wants out.

It's on KA to get the best deal
- Stripes77

We're going to get RoR'd again aren't we

We're going to get RoR'd again aren't we
- RhinoFan

No!!!

We're going to get RoR'd again aren't we
- RhinoFan

Nope

Different situation

Different person driving the bus and so far KA hasn't budged

We're going to get RoR'd again aren't we
- RhinoFan

You created a new verb. Well done RhinoFan!

We're going to get RoR'd again aren't we
- RhinoFan

There's an old Texas saying that goes something like: "ROR me once, shame on you. ROR me twice... can't... Can't ROR me again"

There's an old Texas saying that goes something like: "ROR me once, shame on you. ROR me twice... can't... Can't ROR me again"
- Hank Balling

"They misunderestimated me"

- George W. Bush

"They misunderestimated me"

- George W. Bush
- Powerslave

I was coming to make this joke!

What would it take for the Sabres to move number 1