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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 10:26 AM ET
From Chad D

"At this time, I’m told there’s a good amount of discussion around conditions in a potential trade to protect the team acquiring Eichel in the case his neck injury does keep him out of games in the next year or two.""


This is so confusing. Button said nothing is allowed.

- ImThatGuy

Interesting
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
From Chad D

"At this time, I’m told there’s a good amount of discussion around conditions in a potential trade to protect the team acquiring Eichel in the case his neck injury does keep him out of games in the next year or two.""


This is so confusing. Button said nothing is allowed.

- ImThatGuy


As of April they were legal in at least some situations it seems like Button is wrong

https://www.google.com/am...carter-trade-kings/%3famp
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
Did you steal this from the EK thread?

HE wrote 99% of this.

- ImThatGuy

Read most of it on the Athletic this morning. I was under the impression after 15 years on here I’ve earned at least the fact I don’t read EK anything
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
Read most of it on the Athletic this morning. I was under the impression after 15 years on here I’ve earned at least the fact I don’t read EK anything
- lulags

Blasphemy!!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
Fixed

Or Maybe they flip Jones to one of the teams trying to trade for him?

Could get a very large haul for Jones this off season as well...

But I really don't think Columbus has been in on Eichel as much as many people think.

LA/Ducks hold the 1A, 1B spot on interest
Minnesota/Vegas/Rangers are 3 4 and 5
C-Bus is 6

- Stripes77


Alrite, so let's say we get 3 1sts, one being a 5, one the 24 and one a late 2022 pick. How is that quantity better than the quality the LA Ducks can offer?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
https://pucksandpitchforks.com/2021/07/08/new-jersey-devils-still-linked-to-rasmus-ristolainen/
- Buff36


Eichel And Risto for 4OA, Hughes, Wood, Zacha and our 5th back


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
This sounds good.. is this good?
- DirtyDan



Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:30 AM ET
From Chad D

"At this time, I’m told there’s a good amount of discussion around conditions in a potential trade to protect the team acquiring Eichel in the case his neck injury does keep him out of games in the next year or two.""


This is so confusing. Button said nothing is allowed.

- ImThatGuy


I think there's a reason he isn't a GM anymore


But really it's hard to keep up with all the changes they did.

They put in a rule that qualifying for the play in tournament last season didn't count as making the playoffs, that teams had to make it through into the round of 16 to be considered the playoffs.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:31 AM ET
Read most of it on the Athletic this morning. I was under the impression after 15 years on here I’ve earned at least the fact I don’t read EK anything
- lulags


Ek stealing roomars from the athletic? nah that aint him, dawg
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:32 AM ET
He had 35 points in 50 games this past season.

58 point pace across an 82 game season.

Maybe this season was an outlier but if you can get him for a reasonable price why not ?

Worst case scenario he is the best, or one of the best, 3C’s in the league that takes a lot of the tough matchups that opens things up for the Cozens and Mitts lines

- Pegullaville

how many came against buffalo?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 9 @ 10:33 AM ET
I think there's a reason he isn't a GM anymore


But really it's hard to keep up with all the changes they did.

They put in a rule that qualifying for the play in tournament last season didn't count as making the playoffs, that teams had to make it through into the round of 16 to be considered the playoffs.

- Stripes77


But the players stats counted as playoff stats in the not-playoffs
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:33 AM ET
Alrite, so let's say we get 3 1sts, one being a 5, one the 24 and one a late 2022 pick. How is that quantity better than the quality the LA Ducks can offer?
- TheSabresTaco



I am not saying it is or isn't better

LA and the Ducks can beat that offer, the question is will they budge and give Adams the prospects he wants plus their first
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:34 AM ET
But the players stats counted as playoff stats in the totally-not-playoffs
- Hank Balling


Right?

The NHL is always going to NHL
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 10:34 AM ET
https://thehockeywriters....eakout-potential-2021-22/
Not a bad read!!
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
As of April they were legal in at least some situations it seems like Button is wrong

https://www.google.com/am...carter-trade-kings/%3famp

- Hank Balling


Could it be conditions on resigning player only? I thought there were conditions at trade deadline this year about how far teams go in playoffs or games played (not involving Sabres).

Edit: here is one:
https://www.nhl.com/news/...c-323564446?tid=278542340
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
Eichel And Risto for 4OA, Hughes, Wood, Zacha and our 5th back



- DirtyDan


I think I could do this. Maybe swap out Zacha with Foote or Mercer.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:38 AM ET
how many came against buffalo?
- Michael Pachla


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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:38 AM ET
Now do RAPM
- OneKaneOneCup


Yep, still sucks.

Pavel Zacha

(Out of a potential 100)

1 Year Defense: 5

3 year Defense: 2

Rasmus Ristolainen

1 year Defense: 3

3 year Defense: 5

For someone who despises Rasmus as much as most here, this is an odd play for you.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
Ek is funny, i'll give him that
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:41 AM ET
Could it be conditions on resigning player only? I thought there were conditions at trade deadline this year about how far teams go in playoffs or games played (not involving Sabres).

Edit: here is one:
https://www.nhl.com/news/...c-323564446?tid=278542340

- Lilroot9


Conditions:

New Jersey Devils Acquire:
New Jersey Devils

2022 conditional 4th round pick* (EDM)
*Conditions: The 2022 4th round pick will upgrade to a 2022 3rd round pick if the Oilers win a playoff round in the 2020-21 Stanley Cup playoffs

Result: Oilers didn't win a playoff round in the 2020-21 Stanley Cup playoffs. Devils will receive the Oilers 2022 4th round pick
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:41 AM ET
Ek is funny, i'll give him that
- SABRES 89

Awful quiet. Not much to share?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:42 AM ET
Where's our New Jersey friend, I'm sure he can tell us how often Zacha gets caved in on defense.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 9 @ 10:42 AM ET
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- TheSabresTaco

Right!?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:43 AM ET
Button was wrong, the only 'condition' removed from conditional picks is an upgrade of pick if the player re-signs with his new team.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:43 AM ET
Could it be conditions on resigning player only? I thought there were conditions at trade deadline this year about how far teams go in playoffs or games played (not involving Sabres).

Edit: here is one:
https://www.nhl.com/news/...c-323564446?tid=278542340

- Lilroot9


Several posts on this and the previous page that quote the CBA as to the change that restricts conditions the conditions...effectively the outlawed conditional compensation based on signing a contract with the acquired player. That is it. May impact thexSabres as it would apply to a potential Rhino trade.
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