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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:13 AM ET
Eliotte Friedman said it best last night after the game. The league could have fixed this nearly a decade ago. They didn't. The rule was there, and so was the precedent.

Any complaining about what Tampa did is jealousy, nothing more.

- buffalofan19


People have been female doging about the NHL salary cap loop hole for years.

Teams acquiring guys they know are not going to play and just stashing them on IR.
Magical injuries where guys just no longer play.

It has nothing to do with jealousy. Its only louder now because a team won the cup and players made comments about it.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 8 @ 10:13 AM ET
Eliotte Friedman said it best last night after the game. The league could have fixed this nearly a decade ago. They didn't. The rule was there, and so was the precedent.

Any complaining about what Tampa did is jealousy, nothing more.

- buffalofan19


They pushed it so far that it was embarrassing to the league. If they don't have the desire to enforce the current rules, they need to reassess.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:16 AM ET
I think the devil's trade is fair

I don't think it would happen but is fair

I also don't know if there is that much of an upside from powers over Hughes, powers may have the tools but he may not he as effective...... better defensively but Hughes may be better than his brother in Vancouver

I know people have brought up risto and the devil's here too but I have seen nothing from the devil's side that say that they are targeting him and with the devil's analytical team they would probably stay away from him

Subban severson
Smith risto
Bahl ?
Sir Tindoom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 12.27.2019

Jul 8 @ 10:25 AM ET
Bet they'll fix it now. Rather, next negotiation.
- TheSabresTaco


It won't be a problem until Buffalo does it. Then out come the torches and pitchforks.

😁🤣
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:29 AM ET
They pushed it so far that it was embarrassing to the league. If they don't have the desire to enforce the current rules, they need to reassess.
- Lunaion


As if human beings haven't pushed the envelope as far as they could since the beginning of time...
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 8 @ 10:32 AM ET
As if human beings haven't pushed the envelope as far as they could since the beginning of time...
- buffalofan19


Thats not the point... Its a ridiculous part of the system that needs to changed. Good on Tampa for exposing it. Now its the leagues job to fix said loophole.


Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:34 AM ET
There there, so is Minnesota and a few other teams, just seems like Anaheim and LA are pushing the hardest.
- Buff36

rossi/boldy, kevin fiala, 2021 1st (PIT) and 3rd (PIT), matthew dumba
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
rossi/boldy, kevin fiala, 2021 1st (PIT) and 3rd (PIT), matthew dumba
- Michael Pachla


Kaprizov or no
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:36 AM ET
Kaprizov or no

- DirtyDan

kaprizov is a bad man...seems as if he's angling to go to a destination of his choosing
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jul 8 @ 10:41 AM ET
I honestly believe it would take $10m to keep him. That's how done he is
- Hank Balling


Well, then off he goes….
doctordizzle
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jul 8 @ 10:43 AM ET
If/when Trade Eichel need to get picks in next years draft
GMTM wasted all those precious 2015 picks and look at that draft. Next year supposedly much better that this supposed mediocre draft

Also draft Luke Hughes. Kid looks way better than the other prospects and a year younger… If he has a chance to be similar let alone possibly better than Quinn you grab him!!
That skating reminds me of Housley.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 8 @ 10:46 AM ET
If/when Trade Eichel need to get picks in next years draft
GMTM wasted all those precious 2015 picks and look at that draft. Next year supposedly much better that this supposed mediocre draft

Also draft Luke Hughes. Kid looks way better than the other prospects and a year younger… If he has a chance to be similar let alone possibly better than Quinn you grab him!!
That skating reminds me of Housley.

- doctordizzle


That's why I would love a trade down scenario. If they could turn #1oa into Hughes and a late 1st, that's a huge W
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
I honestly believe it would take $10m to keep him. That's how done he is
- Hank Balling



Well when a man refuses to sign an autograph for you, you don’t keep asking.
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
It won't be a problem until Buffalo does it. Then out come the torches and pitchforks.

😁🤣

- Sir Tindoom


The league will change the rule in game 6 or 7 during triple overtime and Buffalo will have to sit a defenseman for non staff infection reasons. This is the way.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 8 @ 10:56 AM ET
kaprizov is a bad man...seems as if he's angling to go to a destination of his choosing
- Michael Pachla



You think he's trying to get out of Minnesota?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 8 @ 10:58 AM ET
The league will change the rule in game 6 or 7 during triple overtime and Buffalo will have to sit a defenseman for non staff infection reasons. This is the way.
- Da_Cashman

Does Jeff Jillson step in
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:59 AM ET
You think he's trying to get out of Minnesota?
- DirtyDan

i thought i red something to that effect not too long ago...the rumored basis is that he's not willing to sign a long-term deal

edit:
https://theathletic.com/2...rgets-and-movable-assets/

"It’s believed [GM Bill Guerin] made lucrative contract offers of seven and eight years that would make Kaprizov the highest-paid player per year in franchise history. However, so far, it’s believed Kaprizov is seeking a short-term deal, something Guerin doesn’t want to entertain since Kaprizov could become an unrestricted free agent in 2024."
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 8 @ 11:02 AM ET
That's why I would love a trade down scenario. If they could turn #1oa into Hughes and a late 1st, that's a huge W
- Hank Balling


If it were me, I wouldn't be angling for late firsts. While those assets can certainly be valuable, I'd rather just use 1OA to pull in a great young player around 20/21 years old. Those late firsts could take 2-3 years to land on the roster. I want the Zegras' of the world to start playing in the NHL this year for the Sabres. Develop this core of players. 2016 draft years+.




Per the value chart produced by the Athletic, Columbus holds 14.5 points in 1st round pick value, where Buffalo's 1OA is 17.7. I wouldn't do the 3 for 1 deal, but if it was my only avenue, I'd be demanding a young player in return as well. If the Sabres need to balance the trade, so be it, they have the assets to do so. We know the #1 and highly likely #5 will be getting NHL minutes, ideally over a long career. We don't know how 24 and 31 will turn out. Two gambles just to move down 4 spots? I don't see it as quality asset management.

Get young developing players who you already have 2-3 years of tape on post draft year.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 8 @ 11:04 AM ET
i thought i red something to that effect not too long ago...the rumored basis is that he's not willing to sign a long-term deal
- Michael Pachla


Makes sense. Smart kid. Probably wants to just get the RFA years out of the way so he can decide his future in a couple years.

Never know with Minnesota as well. One year they're top of the league the next they're mediocre.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 8 @ 11:05 AM ET
Last night was NBC's last NHL game.

ESPN and Sportsnet are collaborating for both the Expansion Draft and NHL draft coverage. Interesting note, Chris Fowler requested to be part of the hockey coverage once College Football is over.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 8 @ 11:05 AM ET
Makes sense. Smart kid. Probably wants to just get the RFA years out of the way so he can decide his future in a couple years.

Never know with Minnesota as well. One year they're top of the league the next they're mediocre.

- DirtyDan

see edit above...

wild window is open right now and jack makes a lot of sense for them...could very well put them over the top
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 11:05 AM ET
If it were me, I wouldn't be angling for late firsts. While those assets can certainly be valuable, I'd rather just use 1OA to pull in a great young player around 20/21 years old. Those late firsts could take 2-3 years to land on the roster. I want the Zegras' of the world to start playing in the NHL this year for the Sabres. Develop this core of players. 2016 draft years+.




Per the value chart produced by the Athletic, Columbus holds 14.5 points in 1st round pick value, where Buffalo's 1OA is 17.7. I wouldn't do the 3 for 1 deal, but if it was my only avenue, I'd be demanding a young player in return as well. If the Sabres need to balance the trade, so be it, they have the assets to do so. We know the #1 and highly likely #5 will be getting NHL minutes, ideally over a long career. We don't know how 24 and 31 will turn out. Two gambles just to move down 4 spots? I don't see it as quality asset management.

Get young developing players who you already have 2-3 years of tape on post draft year.

- TheSabresTaco

Trading out of 1OA is just a bad idea in general.

Just take Power for god sakes and stop pretending you know better than anyone

I’ve seen a prospect ranking today that has Eklund 5th and Beniers 7th, with Brandt Clarke 1st.

You have control over who you can pick at 1. You don’t at 3 or 5 or 8.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 8 @ 11:06 AM ET
If it were me, I wouldn't be angling for late firsts. While those assets can certainly be valuable, I'd rather just use 1OA to pull in a great young player around 20/21 years old. Those late firsts could take 2-3 years to land on the roster. I want the Zegras' of the world to start playing in the NHL this year for the Sabres. Develop this core of players. 2016 draft years+.




Per the value chart produced by the Athletic, Columbus holds 14.5 points in 1st round pick value, where Buffalo's 1OA is 17.7. I wouldn't do the 3 for 1 deal, but if it was my only avenue, I'd be demanding a young player in return as well. If the Sabres need to balance the trade, so be it, they have the assets to do so. We know the #1 and highly likely #5 will be getting NHL minutes, ideally over a long career. We don't know how 24 and 31 will turn out. Two gambles just to move down 4 spots? I don't see it as quality asset management.

Get young developing players who you already have 2-3 years of tape on post draft year.

- TheSabresTaco


I wouldn't be against this idea if I trusted the scouting staff they have in place, which is far from the case.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 8 @ 11:09 AM ET
Trading out of 1OA is just a bad idea in general.

Just take Power for god sakes and stop pretending you know better than anyone

I’ve seen a prospect ranking today that has Eklund 5th and Beniers 7th, with Brandt Clarke 1st.

You have control over who you can pick at 1. You don’t at 3 or 5 or 8.

- OneKaneOneCup



I think you could swap 1 and 2, fulfill expansion requirements, not lose Asplund/Tage/Bjork and still get Power.

Sabres need to maximize assets
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 8 @ 11:12 AM ET
I think you could swap 1 and 2, fulfill expansion requirements, not lose Asplund/Tage/Bjork and still get Power.

Sabres need to maximize assets

- Hank Balling

or get beniers...

it actually makes a lot of sense for buffalo if they feel power and beniers are equal and it makes sense for seattle as their franchise history will begin with the first overall selection in 2021
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