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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:19 PM ET
If Pegula had only listened to Jerry Sullivan, Paul Hamilton and the fans when he bought the team in 2011, the team would be in a much stronger position and with a much greater reputation.
- RichardRoma


Don’t forget Harrington
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:19 PM ET
I would think we will see movement on the Eichel and Reinhart fronts after the expansion lists are handed in.

I also don’t have sources so who really knows.

- Pegullaville

Pretend. It's fun.

SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 8 @ 1:20 PM ET
#Dixinsideher
- Powerslave

ftfy
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:22 PM ET
Except, the fans (and the local media) don't trust Adams and Karmanos
- RichardRoma


The fans/media level of confidence doesn’t matter though
Let’s see what these trades end up being,
AND THEN we can judge
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:23 PM ET
They’ve got their work cut out for them.

There are fans who would be mad if all of that happened just because they would want to be mad or know nothing about 75% of those players.

Also who cares what Mike Harrington has to say?

- Stripes77


👏👏👏
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:24 PM ET
I would think we will see movement on the Eichel and Reinhart fronts after the expansion lists are handed in.

I also don’t have sources so who really knows.

- Pegullaville


Makes sense though
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
ftfy
- SabresFaninIndiana



The 'h' was assumed.

MorAn.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 8 @ 1:28 PM ET
My insider sources are saying.

It's all the fans fault the Sabres are bad.

IF the Peguals would just stop listening to the fans they would be better, GMKA and Karman are trying to convince the Pegulas, its close but it could also fall apart.

The Pegulas are asking for the fans help, that don't pretend to know more about hockey and the day to day goings ons then the average folks.
They also have never publicly stated that they are better than the fans.

The fans need to trust in them and totally just ignore the last 10 years.

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 8 @ 1:30 PM ET
My insider sources are saying.

It's all the fans fault the Sabres are bad.

IF the Peguals would just stop listening to the fans they would be better, GMKA and Karman are trying to convince the Pegulas, its close but it could also fall apart.

The Pegulas are asking for the fans help, that don't pretend to know more about hockey and the day to day goings ons then the average folks.
They also have never publicly stated that they are better than the fans.

The fans need to trust in them and totally just ignore the last 10 years.

- ImThatGuy

Yep
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 8 @ 1:30 PM ET
I think the devil's trade is fair

I don't think it would happen but is fair

I also don't know if there is that much of an upside from powers over Hughes, powers may have the tools but he may not he as effective...... better defensively but Hughes may be better than his brother in Vancouver

I know people have brought up risto and the devil's here too but I have seen nothing from the devil's side that say that they are targeting him and with the devil's analytical team they would probably stay away from him

Subban severson
Smith risto
Bahl ?

- dmarsden2988


Just saying, personal opinion, this is highly doubtful. Quinn was further along when he was drafted per scouts and also he took off after entering the league. Assuming that's a possible outcome is fine, but he projects to be Hughes the Lesser.

Agreed with the rest. Risto to NJ seemed odd. I would expect a WC team looking to add weight to consider, if any.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 8 @ 1:31 PM ET
Pretend. It's fun.
- OneKaneOneCup



If anyone wants the straight scoop, my guy has the real deal info


Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:32 PM ET
My insider sources are saying.

It's all the fans fault the Sabres are bad.

IF the Peguals would just stop listening to the fans they would be better, GMKA and Karman are trying to convince the Pegulas, its close but it could also fall apart.

The Pegulas are asking for the fans help, that don't pretend to know more about hockey and the day to day goings ons then the average folks.
They also have never publicly stated that they are better than the fans.

The fans need to trust in them and totally just ignore the last 10 years.

- ImThatGuy

if owners own,
gms manage,
coaches coach,
players play
and fans fan,


all will be well
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:33 PM ET
My insider sources are saying.

It's all the fans fault the Sabres are bad.

IF the Peguals would just stop listening to the fans they would be better, GMKA and Karman are trying to convince the Pegulas, its close but it could also fall apart.

The Pegulas are asking for the fans help, that don't pretend to know more about hockey and the day to day goings ons then the average folks.
They also have never publicly stated that they are better than the fans.

The fans need to trust in them and totally just ignore the last 10 years.

- ImThatGuy

Per source -

Sabres are likely to make trades, teams are calling, conversations are being had. Details are subject to change.

Same source -

Those things might not happen
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 8 @ 1:34 PM ET
The 'h' was assumed.

MorAn.

- Powerslave

i dont leave anything to doubt
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:37 PM ET
Just saying, personal opinion, this is highly doubtful. Quinn was further along when he was drafted per scouts and also he took off after entering the league. Assuming that's a possible outcome is fine, but he projects to be Hughes the Lesser.

Agreed with the rest. Risto to NJ seemed odd. I would expect a WC team looking to add weight to consider, if any.

- RhinoFan

I have no solid opinion on this either way besides to say that Quinn Hughes is massively over rated and is one of the worst D men in the NHL at defense
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 8 @ 1:45 PM ET
Per source -

Sabres are likely to make trades, teams are calling, conversations are being had. Details are subject to change.

Same source -

Those things might not happen

- OneKaneOneCup

Very true!!
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 8 @ 1:46 PM ET
I have no solid opinion on this either way besides to say that Quinn Hughes is massively over rated and is one of the worst D men in the NHL at defense
- OneKaneOneCup


Maybe as a defender. In the offensive zone he's a natural. Without looking I'd bet he's top10 in points for defenders or close to it. I think the downgrade from Tanev to Hamonic as his D-partner was big. He's still very young and needs to be sheltered a bit defensively, that's all, pretty normal for guys his age.

Edit: I looked. He finished 11th in points this year, 5th last year. I was off by 1.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 8 @ 1:51 PM ET
I have no solid opinion on this either way besides to say that Quinn Hughes is massively over rated and is one of the worst D men in the NHL at defense
- OneKaneOneCup


Luke has 4" on his brother which could help him in the defensive zone
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 8 @ 2:04 PM ET
Don’t forget Harrington
- Stripes77

And what about Bucky "If I Were Sabres GM" Gleason?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 8 @ 2:11 PM ET
And what about Bucky "If I Were Sabres GM" Gleason?
- Michael Pachla



Would it really be that much worse?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 8 @ 2:14 PM ET
Would it really be that much worse?
- ImThatGuy

It certainly had been a sh¡tshow. Can't argue that.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 8 @ 2:15 PM ET
This is a lot to think about so imma head out…
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jul 8 @ 2:25 PM ET
https://www.diebytheblade...nhl-buffalo-sabres-hockey
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 8 @ 2:43 PM ET
https://mobile.twitter.co...mp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Interesting Rhino take!!!
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 2:43 PM ET
https://www.diebytheblade.com/2021/7/8/22566963/there-is-no-ideal-trade-package-for-jack-eichel-nhl-buffalo-sabres-hockey
- Anderdog


That’s why it’s important to get as many high end pieces as possible
Not any single piece we get back is likely to replace Eichel adequately
BUT, if we get enough good young pieces that work out…. They can (hopefully) help form a part of a good young core that we can build around

And then a little luck in the ‘22 & ‘23 drafts wouldn’t hurt either

Obviously none of this is ideal,
but it’s where we’re at unfortunately
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