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- Stayin alive

You hooked up with your cousin when you were drunk because someone dared you?

What was this? A family BBQ? Of all the women in the world…….

i'll never say complete luck because hey, they were the ones that took him. i think he was a third rounder? not a totally insignificant pick. clearly someone over there had a decent inkling. however, to dismiss luck at all is lunacy. you cant just wave away the concept of them taking multiple players before him while still holding the idea that they "knew he would be this good", because they wouldnt have done so. same with kucherov. blind luck is harsh to me and diminishes their hand in it to too great a degree, but the good fortune element is undeniable.

even on the home run picks. they deserve credit for picking hedman number one, but theres good fortune in sucking the year he was the top ranked D coming out and not say, erik johnson's year.
- stayinthefnnet

So many factors. I think what they deserve the most credit for is how they’ve developed those players.

They get a tremendous amount of credit for the makeover. They were an offensive razzle-dazzle team just 2 years ago. They got swept by a gritty, hard fore-checking ,tough defense team. Now, they are winning huge 1-0 games.

Speaking of which, I think both the Pens with Kessel and the Hawks with their lines had more incisive offenses. In game 4-5, there were times I thought Kucherov had turned into Ville Leino.
- PT21

their depth on d is staggering as well. hedman still manages to somehow be somewhat underrated.

i do think the mark of a good team is being able to win in a variety of ways. also goes without saying that Vasey cemented himself as the best goalie going right now.

dont mind kuch being a tad rusty. didnt you hear, he had a season long injury. miraculous he can so much as walk down the block

So many factors. I think what they deserve the most credit for is how they’ve developed those players.
- Flyers1218

youll get no argument from me there.

i dont think its quantifiable with numbers or anything, but who is to say that regardless of the stroke of luck or brilliance it was to draft these players, they become what they do in another organization.

spitting in the face of the spirit of the rules or not, they are the gold standard right now.

Wasn’t Maroon playing ball hockey when he was a prospect for us?

i'll never say complete luck because hey, they were the ones that took him. i think he was a third rounder? not a totally insignificant pick. clearly someone over there had a decent inkling. however, to dismiss luck at all is lunacy. you cant just wave away the concept of them taking multiple players before him while still holding the idea that they "knew he would be this good", because they wouldnt have done so. same with kucherov. blind luck is harsh to me and diminishes their hand in it to too great a degree, but the good fortune element is undeniable.

even on the home run picks. they deserve credit for picking hedman number one, but theres good fortune in sucking the year he was the top ranked D coming out and not say, erik johnson's year.
- stayinthefnnet

Can't possibly know which scout had an inkling and was overruled by a GM on a pick. Just don't tell me that have a scouting advantage and that's why they picked Point in the 3rd round with the 79th pick. Not when they picked Dominik Masin and Jonathon McLeod before picking Point. Surely someone in their scouting department liked Point but that they got a star with that pick is absolutely luck.

They get a tremendous amount of credit for the makeover. They were an offensive razzle-dazzle team just 2 years ago. They got swept by a gritty, hard fore-checking ,tough defense team. Now, they are winning huge 1-0 games.

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- PT21

. In 18/19, TB was a top 10 NHL defensive team with a GA/GP of 2.70. That's pretty dam good. They also really didn't change that many players overall. They just had a bad series.

. In 18/19, TB was a top 10 NHL defensive team with a GA/GP of 2.70. That's pretty dam good. They also really didn't change that many players overall. They just had a bad series.
- MJL

it happens to the best teams. shows sometimes staying the course and not yanking the wheel in extreme knee jerk reactionary fashion is just what the doctor ordered

their depth on d is staggering as well. hedman still manages to somehow be somewhat underrated.

i do think the mark of a good team is being able to win in a variety of ways. also goes without saying that Vasey cemented himself as the best goalie going right now.

dont mind kuch being a tad rusty. didnt you hear, he had a season long injury. miraculous he can so much as walk down the block
- stayinthefnnet

I was tremendously impressed by their D. How rarely they make the safe play under pressure: rarely the wraparound, rarely the chip out, rarely the icing. Even deep in their zone, multiple little passes (sometimes ill advised, as in the Beauvellier (or was it Nelson) turnover and OT goal, but it is clearly be design.

it happens to the best teams. shows sometimes staying the course and not yanking the wheel in extreme knee jerk reactionary fashion is just what the doctor ordered
- stayinthefnnet

Absolutely. You have to react to what happens but not overreact. I'm hoping the Flyers don't overreact to what happened last season.

For humanity's sake, I sure hope so.
- Tomahawk

You hooked up with your cousin when you were drunk because someone dared you?

What was this? A family BBQ? Of all the women in the world…….
- Flyers1218

Hey she started it lol

3 home runs!

Give a hat to DD

. In 18/19, TB was a top 10 NHL defensive team with a GA/GP of 2.70. That's pretty dam good. They also really didn't change that many players overall. They just had a bad series.
- MJL

They deserve credit for sticking with their guns, despite a lot of calls to change course. They could have easily listened to those voices that their core would never get over the hump, that they were just another San Jose. They could have easily made Jon Cooper the scapegoat after 1st-round exits and after missing the POs completely in 16-17. They could have easily canned Yzerman at numerous points.

People talk like they were a bunch of figure skaters who only got bigger/grittier after the Jackets sweep, but they forget the Bolts always had big and/or gritty dudes like Gudas, Salo, Coburn, Callahan, Brewer, Malone, Garrison, Pyatt, Boyle, Sustr, etc.

The real reason why Tampa is so hard to beat now is their continuity and chemistry. A lot of their guys have been together for 8, 9, 10 years+. That's the real takeaway from their success, IMO. Draft, develop and stick w/ your guns. Don't panic.

They deserve credit for sticking with their guns, despite a lot of calls to change course. They could have easily listened to those voices that their core would never get over the hump, that they were just another San Jose. They could have easily made Jon Cooper the scapegoat after 1st-round exits and after missing the POs completely in 16-17. They could have easily canned Yzerman at numerous points.

People talk like they were a bunch of figure skaters who only got bigger/grittier after the Jackets sweep, but they forget the Bolts always had big and/or gritty dudes like Gudas, Salo, Coburn, Callahan, Brewer, Malone, Garrison, Pyatt, Boyle, Sustr, etc.

The real reason why Tampa is so hard to beat now is their continuity and chemistry. A lot of their guys have been together for 8, 9, 10 years+. That's the real takeaway from their success, IMO. Draft, develop and stick w/ your guns. Don't panic.
- Tomahawk

Well said. Stay the course. Don't chase another team and try to emulate. Build your team.

Any chance we offer sheet Cale Makar?

Can't possibly know which scout had an inkling and was overruled by a GM on a pick. Just don't tell me that have a scouting advantage and that's why they picked Point in the 3rd round with the 79th pick. Not when they picked Dominik Masin and Jonathon McLeod before picking Point. Surely someone in their scouting department liked Point but that they got a star with that pick is absolutely luck.
- MJL

I think the way it works is scouts have specific assigned regions, and teams within those regions. Each scout then comes to the table with players they really like, that they have followed for a season or more. That is what happened for example with Elias Pettersson; there was a scout working for Vancouver that had a relationship and really pushed for Vancouver to draft him. Therefore there was probably one scout from Tampa that was very familiar with Point and pushed for the team to draft him, and the only reason he was drafted in the 3rd round was because of the bias GMs have towards smaller players. GMs are quickly realizing that in today's NHL, speed and tenacity trump size, and players like Point and Caufield are demonstrating.

Any chance we offer sheet Cale Makar?
- DrMidnite

When was the last time any GM has offered an offer sheet to any RFA? I think there is a unwritten rule for GMs to play nice and not put forth offer sheets, so I would say no chance.

Any chance we offer sheet Cale Makar?
- DrMidnite

Any chance he would sign it?

Absolutely. You have to react to what happens but not overreact. I'm hoping the Flyers don't overreact to what happened last season.
- MJL

If the Flyers had a core that is young and has demonstrated they are as good as any core in the league, I would completely agree with you. But that is not the case with this Flyers team currently. Their so-called "best players" are not top players in this league. They are all older and going to continue to slide in their ability, thus its not like you can be patient and continue to build around them. The Flyers have to develop a new core to build around, and the only way they can do this is to jettison as much of the current core as they can. This past season, and pretty much all the previous seasons have hinted to the same thing, the core of this team is not good enough to win a cup, or even seriously contend for one. These are just facts that need to be addressed, otherwise we continue to wallow in mediocrity!

Well said. Stay the course. Don't chase another team and try to emulate. Build your team.
- MJL

agree. the flyers have been building. The have a roster chock full of great players. Just a couple years away. The young guys need more time is all.

How many team can match what the flyers have in their system and on the current team.

Any chance he would sign it?
- hello it's me 2050

The question is totally irrelevant. The Avs would match any OS. They have plenty of cap space and there is no chance they let him go.

agree. the flyers have been building. The have a roster chock full of great players. Just a couple years away. The young guys need more time is all.

How many team can match what the flyers have in their system and on the current team.
- hello it's me 2050

the issue is the flyers have depth in there system, but not the top flight talents. Alot of guys that project to 2nd line players, Hopefully they can excel past that. Maybe York and Allison and Forester can end up being 1st line guys.

The question is totally irrelevant. The Avs would match any OS. They have plenty of cap space and there is no chance they let him go.
- BenderRodriguez

It is not irrelevant. Unless made him the highest paid player or close to it he would have zero interest in signing here when he is in a great situation.