Any chance he would sign it?
- hello it's me 2050

If we offer more, yes.

the issue is the flyers have depth in there system, but not the top flight talents. Alot of guys that project to 2nd line players, Hopefully they can excel past that. Maybe York and Allison and Forester can end up being 1st line guys.
- bradster

The depth is questionable as well. Every organization pretty much has the same depth. Flyers do not have anything that stand out over others.

If we offer more, yes.
- DrMidnite

a boatload more by like millions per year is the only shot. Even then not a guarantee.

https://twitter.com/Specm...g-Up-Picks%2F284%2F112353

No way this can be true. Jones doesn't want to sign here possibly?

agree. the flyers have been building. The have a roster chock full of great players. Just a couple years away. The young guys need more time is all.

How many team can match what the flyers have in their system and on the current team.
- hello it's me 2050

Who do they have that you consider as "great players". I mean, this is just a inaccurate statement.

https://twitter.com/SpecmenceCBJ/status/1413347067871731715?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1413347067871731715%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hockeybuzz.com%2Fblog%2FTheo-Fox%2FDraft-Picking-Up-Picks%2F284%2F112353

No way this can be true. Jones doesn't want to sign here possibly?
- hello it's me 2050

We know one of the teams is Colorado.

It is not irrelevant. Unless made him the highest paid player or close to it he would have zero interest in signing here when he is in a great situation.
- hello it's me 2050

It's irrelevant as far as the outcome goes. Colorado won't let him go and the Flyers don't have the space to do it anyway. Fun to kick around but I don't see it being a realistic possibility.

https://twitter.com/SpecmenceCBJ/status/1413347067871731715?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1413347067871731715%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hockeybuzz.com%2Fblog%2FTheo-Fox%2FDraft-Picking-Up-Picks%2F284%2F112353

No way this can be true. Jones doesn't want to sign here possibly?
- hello it's me 2050

This is what I would consider to be an overreaction and a stupid move by the Flyers, to try to obtain Jones. The better move for the Flyers is to sign Larsson and one other defenseman. The Flyers will have cap space, especially after the ED, they need to spend it wisely on several players, not one player!

Who do they have that you consider as "great players". I mean, this is just a inaccurate statement.
- jd250

Go get a cup of coffee. Then read it again.

This is what I would consider to be an overreaction and a stupid move by the Flyers, to try to obtain Jones. The better move for the Flyers is to sign Larsson and one other defenseman. The Flyers will have cap space, especially after the ED, they need to spend it wisely on several players, not one player!
- jd250

I am not in favor of getting jones. Has nothing to do with the player. Unless they are going to get rid of 50% of the core it wont matter anyway what they do. This core is rotten

I just hope the GM has plan B C and D ready. Him having tunnel vison for Jones only would not be good.

The more interesting question is what do the do in goal? Hart poopz the bed again they can have ab all star team and it wont matter. Haven't heard/read any rumors on they may look at.

It's irrelevant as far as the outcome goes. Colorado won't let him go and the Flyers don't have the space to do it anyway. Fun to kick around but I don't see it being a realistic possibility.
- BenderRodriguez

There is no outcome unless he signs the offer. Which he wont imo as makes zero sense unless it meets what I said earlier.

Also if he signed for the max $ allowed I do not think it is a guarantee they match at all. What is the max salary?

https://twitter.com/SpecmenceCBJ/status/1413347067871731715?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1413347067871731715%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hockeybuzz.com%2Fblog%2FTheo-Fox%2FDraft-Picking-Up-Picks%2F284%2F112353

No way this can be true. Jones doesn't want to sign here possibly?
- hello it's me 2050

It's really sad how far this organization has fallen with the current management that is in place. Philly used to be of interest to all the best players in the league. Everyone truly was interested in playing in Philly. Now the exact opposite is true. Thanks for ruining the organization Homer!!

The depth is questionable as well. Every organization pretty much has the same depth. Flyers do not have anything that stand out over others.
- hello it's me 2050

that cant be because i keep hearing how good a job hextall did.

It's really sad how far this organization has fallen with the current management that is in place. Philly used to be of interest to all the best players in the league. Everyone truly was interested in playing in Philly. Now the exact opposite is true. Thanks for ruining the organization Homer!!

- Phillywhiteout

What needs to happen and probably won't is ex selke and captain comfortable walk as free agents. That may be the possible wakeup call this organization needs. Top players don't want to be here and their own want to leave.

How is complete blame on Shooter? Elaborate.

This is what I would consider to be an overreaction and a stupid move by the Flyers, to try to obtain Jones. The better move for the Flyers is to sign Larsson and one other defenseman. The Flyers will have cap space, especially after the ED, they need to spend it wisely on several players, not one player!
- jd250

I agree with this.

Ive said all along they need to find the best fit (IE another Niskanen type player) who can ride shotgun to Provorov and allow the other dmen to slot in their ideal spots.....and stay there.

There is no outcome unless he signs the offer. Which he wont imo as makes zero sense unless it meets what I said earlier.

Also if he signed for the max $ allowed I do not think it is a guarantee they match at all. What is the max salary?
- hello it's me 2050

I get what you're saying, and you're not wrong, he has to sign first. I just don't think it matters if he signs it. At this time, I don't see the outcome of him being a Flyer. I think max is around 15mil+.

I get what you're saying, and you're not wrong, he has to sign first. I just don't think it matters if he signs it. At this time, I don't see the outcome of him being a Flyer. I think max is around 15mil+.
- BenderRodriguez

Then the Avs will have around 18 million between Jones and Makar alone. Good luck with that.

What needs to happen and probably won't is ex selke and captain comfortable walk as free agents. That may be the possible wakeup call this organization needs. Top players don't want to be here and their own want to leave.

How is complete blame on Shooter? Elaborate.
- hello it's me 2050

I blame Homer cause he hired Hextall to clean up the cap space mess that he left as GM. Then he fires him and hires a dullard GM like Fletcher. This team will NEVER win anything with Fletcher as GM. Not saying he's terrible, but he is just a run of the mill GM who can't think outside of the box and you never win with guys like that at the helm. I think Fake Snoracek should be the first player out the door!! This veteran leadership core is a mess!! Giroux and Voracek just aren't leaders, and then you have out in space Hayes and soft as toilet paper JVR. Then you throw in the introvert Couturier and you have to ask who the phuck is going to lead this team's younger players. Guess you could even put the blame on Snider and his loyalty to ex goon players. Homer should have been fired as GM.....not promoted to team President. Thanks!

Then the Avs will have around 18 million between Jones and Makar alone. Good luck with that.
- DrMidnite

When did Jones get traded to CO?

I get what you're saying, and you're not wrong, he has to sign first. I just don't think it matters if he signs it. At this time, I don't see the outcome of him being a Flyer. I think max is around 15mil+.
- BenderRodriguez

agree with the outcome.

I blame Homer cause he hired Hextall to clean up the cap space mess that he left as GM. Then he fires him and hires a dullard GM like Fletcher. This team will NEVER win anything with Fletcher as GM. Not saying he's terrible, but he is just a run of the mill GM who can't think outside of the box and you never win with guys like that at the helm. I think Fake Snoracek should be the first player out the door!! This veteran leadership core is a mess!! Giroux and Voracek just aren't leaders, and then you have out in space Hayes and soft as toilet paper JVR. Then you throw in the introvert Couturier and you have to ask who the phuck is going to lead this team's younger players. Guess you could even put the blame on Snider and his loyalty to ex goon players. Homer should have been fired as GM.....not promoted to team President. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

Plenty of blame I agree. Not just one person. The entire old guard needs to be removed and start fresh. Until that happens, and it won't, very little will change. Shooter Clarke Scott and countless others need to move on.

This is a very archaic and incestuous organization imo.

the issue is the flyers have depth in there system, but not the top flight talents. Alot of guys that project to 2nd line players, Hopefully they can excel past that. Maybe York and Allison and Forester can end up being 1st line guys.
- bradster

agree but this is where the GM has to use the system to get the right pieces. They did the drafting and development, they stock piled the organization, now find the upper end talent and fill the needs.

I agree with this.

Ive said all along they need to find the best fit (IE another Niskanen type player) who can ride shotgun to Provorov and allow the other dmen to slot in their ideal spots.....and stay there.
- MBFlyerfan

At what point is it fair to ask Provy to be the main guy and carry his pair? At some point when does he step up instead of him needing a great partner? This assumes he is the stud many believe. Maybe he just isn't that guy which is fine as he is a damn good dman.

agree but this is where the GM has to use the system to get the right pieces. They did the drafting and development, they stock piled the organization, now find the upper end talent and fill the needs.
- wcorvette

stock piled with what exactly? What do they have that other organizations do not?

I think the way it works is scouts have specific assigned regions, and teams within those regions. Each scout then comes to the table with players they really like, that they have followed for a season or more. That is what happened for example with Elias Pettersson; there was a scout working for Vancouver that had a relationship and really pushed for Vancouver to draft him. Therefore there was probably one scout from Tampa that was very familiar with Point and pushed for the team to draft him, and the only reason he was drafted in the 3rd round was because of the bias GMs have towards smaller players. GMs are quickly realizing that in today's NHL, speed and tenacity trump size, and players like Point and Caufield are demonstrating.
- jd250

I think it was more about what kind of overall player a potential pick is. It's the complete package, not just size. Pettersson is not a good example here because he was the 2nd ranked European skater coming into the draft. He was an obvious top pick.