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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:32 PM ET
best to package a few picks so SEA doesn't take allen
- mr.peanut

and then they pick Chiarot? (frank) them deep!
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:34 PM ET
and then they pick Chiarot? (frank) them deep!
- deadpoulet

losing Chiarot would open a spot to hire a puck moving d
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:36 PM ET
losing Chiarot would open a spot to hire a puck moving d
- fidopro

sure, but I would not give a pick to Seattle so they could pick a good asset.

They could flip him at the TDL for another first rnd pick (my guess).

Learn from Vegas. Do not trade with Seattle.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 8:37 PM ET
losing Chiarot would open a spot to hire a puck moving d
- fidopro



but then they need to find said puck-moving D. they need one no matter what lol
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:37 PM ET
sure, but I would not give a pick to Seattle so they could pick a good asset.

They could flip him at the TDL for another first rnd pick (my guess).

Learn from Vegas. Do not trade with Seattle.

- deadpoulet

would you prefer to lose Allen, or Chiarot and a 2nd?
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:38 PM ET
but then they need to find said puck-moving D. they need one no matter what lol
- Pat1993

true
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:40 PM ET
would you prefer to lose Allen, or Chiarot and a 2nd?
- fidopro

Allen unless we end up with a Chaudron as a back up.

The thing is if we lose Chiarot, we don't know what we will find as a top 4 D.

One ''solution'' would be to grow Romanov in that role.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 8:42 PM ET
Allen unless we end up with a Chaudron as a back up.

The thing is if we lose Chiarot, we don't know what we will find as a top 4 D.

One ''solution'' would be to grow Romanov in that role.

- deadpoulet


ça serait drôle en criss qu'ils embauchent un Québécois ou un Français et que son nom de famille c'est Chaudron


and yeah in an ideal world Romanov would become the successor to Markov lol
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:43 PM ET
Allen unless we end up with a Chaudron as a back up.

The thing is if we lose Chiarot, we don't know what we will find as a top 4 D.

One ''solution'' would be to grow Romanov in that role.

- deadpoulet

he might become a top4, but not next fall. it will take a few years imo.
you maybe right. it's probably easier to find a good backup than a top4 pmd.
habs could also protect 8 skaters. the top4 dcore and 4 forwards. Gally, Toffoli, Anderson and kk.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:44 PM ET
edmundson, Petry
Romanov, Weber
Kulak, Fleury
vet D as 7th D

or edmundson, Petry
Dunn?, Weber
Romanov, Fleury
Kulak


mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 9 @ 8:45 PM ET
MB mentioned during his presser that due to players hitting bonuses, they went over the cap and will have consequences next season
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:47 PM ET
MB mentioned during his presser that due to players hitting bonuses, they went over the cap and will have consequences next season
- mr.peanut


what consequences?

I missed that one
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 8:47 PM ET
what consequences?

I missed that one

- deadpoulet


this is insane, considering what TB were able to do

https://www.danslescoulis...utres-equipes-en-2021-22/



fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:48 PM ET
edmundson, Petry
Romanov, Weber
Kulak, Fleury
vet D as 7th D

or edmundson, Petry
Dunn?, Weber
Romanov, Fleury
Kulak

- deadpoulet

I prefer the latter
Habshistory
Montreal Canadiens
Location: NS
Joined: 10.19.2016

Jul 9 @ 8:48 PM ET
let say SEA take Chiarot, with Tatar and Drouin out, that's 14M out the door. no cap problem what so ever.
- fidopro


I use to come on here once in a while and just read the articles and comments. Who was the guy that was always tabulating the potential cap numbers endlessly. I think you guys referred to him as the csp calculator.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 9 @ 8:49 PM ET
what consequences?

I missed that one

- deadpoulet

Goes against the following year's cap.

Happened to chi back in 2010
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:49 PM ET
what consequences?

I missed that one

- deadpoulet

1.5M +/-
bonusses
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 8:50 PM ET
I use to come on here once in a while and just read the articles and comments. Who was the guy that was always tabulating the potential cap numbers endlessly. I think you guys referred to him as the csp calculator.
- Habshistory



oh, I think you mean obie? not sure he always correct with his numbers

but a good guy still, it's been a while since we've seen him around here
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:51 PM ET
I use to come on here once in a while and just read the articles and comments. Who was the guy that was always tabulating the potential cap numbers endlessly. I think you guys referred to him as the csp calculator.
- Habshistory


obbie?
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 9 @ 8:52 PM ET
this is insane, considering what TB were able to do

https://www.danslescoulis...utres-equipes-en-2021-22/



- Pat1993

Thing is, tampa was cap compliant during the season, and the cap doesn't exist during the playoffs. However, a lot of entry level deals are loaded with playoff bonuses, so players are getting paid, and since you can not retroactively make a team cap compliant it must be paid the following year.

This year's final saw two teams over the cap.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:52 PM ET
1.5M +/-
bonusses

- fidopro

meh
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 9 @ 8:53 PM ET
meh
- deadpoulet

we all know that's pocket change for you
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 8:53 PM ET
Thing is, tampa was cap compliant during the season, and the cap doesn't exist during the playoffs. However, a lot of entry level deals are loaded with playoff bonuses, so players are getting paid, and since you can not retroactively make a team cap compliant it must be paid the following year.

This year's final saw two teams over the cap.

- mr.peanut



oh I understand why, I just find it very, very ironic.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 8:54 PM ET
1.5M +/-
bonusses

- fidopro



yeah it isn't that bad, but still...
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 8:54 PM ET
we all know that's pocket change for you
- mr.peanut

veux-tu un café beau brun?
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