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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 11 @ 11:55 AM ET
If teams were willing to trade top prospect
I believe a deal would of already happened

Bottom 2 pieces can be adjusted
How much salary are we taking on with salary dump
Add a extra pick if it's high

- Anderdog


Not directed at you Dog...

Teams don't want to give up their top prospects ...
Now we are expected to also take on Cap Dumps?

They are not really interested then.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 11:55 AM ET
and that's where quality people in upper management come into play...sabres problems can really be traced back to the revolving door of rookie gm's who don't have the background to handle situations:

--gmtm with the trades for young-vets
--botts with the ror trade

adams is now up with, possibly, the biggest decision in franchise history...and he has no nhl front office experience...not saying he can't get it done, but that's a pretty heavy load

- Michael Pachla

Big load, hopefully Karmanos is as good as we hope, cause he could really help.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 11 @ 11:55 AM ET
I’m on board with this as long as they are long term solution assets and not the quick fix solutions that got us to where we are today
- lulags


We're talking about picks and prospects, so it's certainly a long term approach.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 11 @ 11:56 AM ET
I would trade Jack straight up for Garland and Chychrun
- homiedclown

Whoa now this is something to think about
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 11 @ 11:58 AM ET
Not directed at you Dog...

Teams don't want to give up their top prospects ...
Now we are expected to also take on Cap Dumps?

They are not really interested then.

- IonSabres

I’m leaning toward this. I don’t see any team giving up a potential franchise prospect + + for Eichel. Even if they are, I’m sure it would come with a massive dump of the Okposo or Moulson variety, which is what got us here. Not sure there is a legitimate Eichel trade out there this year, but I could be shocking wrong
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 11 @ 11:59 AM ET
https://youtu.be/Okys3fZm8qg

I posted this late last night
At the end guy says this is offer nyr have on table

????

- Anderdog


"Up" might be stretching it..."changed" is more accurate.

I wonder if they would send us Lafreniere for Girgs, Olo, Miller and our '22 3rd rounder.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:02 PM ET
Sort of feels like the smart move would be a combo of bolstering the top 6 so we can put butts in the seats, but also targeting prospects and picks so we can rebuild our core
- lulags



For sure.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 12:02 PM ET
https://youtu.be/Okys3fZm8qg

I posted this late last night
At the end guy says this is offer nyr have on table

????

- Anderdog

terrible

2 blah LD men
a blah goalie
good guy up front and a mid first rd pick
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 12:03 PM ET
Whoa now this is something to think about
- BeadyEyedDouche

Chychrun led d men in goals for last 2 seasons

really turned his game around


flip dahlin to Rd and that's a sound top pair


throw in risto if needed
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 11 @ 12:03 PM ET
does a 1C need to be a superstar?
- Michael Pachla


Define superstar.

I would certainly be targeting a > 82 pt player for my 1C...would like closer to 90 pts
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
terrible

2 blah LD men
a blah goalie
good guy up front and a mid first rd pick

- homiedclown

Lundkuist or Schneider would be my asks
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
does a 1C need to be a superstar?
- Michael Pachla



No.

See: Boston Bruins
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 11 @ 12:06 PM ET
Actually it's ''there'' dummy. Read my location and lern a few thingse.
- BeadyEyedDouche


Funny.
Wouldn't it be they're
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 11 @ 12:07 PM ET
Is this the same "Peca" we went to the finals with? I'll take that on my team any day, any time.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jul 11 @ 12:11 PM ET
Not directed at you Dog...

Teams don't want to give up their top prospects ...
Now we are expected to also take on Cap Dumps?

They are not really interested then.

- IonSabres


Np

The question was realistically what do you expect

Not what do you want
I want everything and a little bit more

Imo
It's not all sunshine with eichel
Injuries
Salary
Cap not going up
Questions of his ability to lead his team

And much as some would like to think
He can't be on this team next season

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 12:13 PM ET
Np

The question was realistically what do you expect

Not what do you want
I want everything and a little bit more

Imo
It's not all sunshine with eichel
Injuries
Salary
Cap not going up
Questions of his ability to lead his team

And much as some would like to think
He can't be on this team next season

- Anderdog

Not with his attitude!!
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jul 11 @ 12:13 PM ET
terrible

2 blah LD men
a blah goalie
good guy up front and a mid first rd pick

- homiedclown

Straight crap
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jul 11 @ 12:15 PM ET
Rhino and Risto and Ullmarks rights to the Preds for Duchene and Ellis and Ingram
Poile will NOT retain salary.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 11 @ 12:20 PM ET
Is this the same "Peca" we went to the finals with? I'll take that on my team any day, any time.
- Powerslave

Ullmark can’t even sniff hasek’s jock. But I get what you mean.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 12:23 PM ET
Rhino and Risto and Ullmarks rights to the Preds for Duchene and Ellis and Ingram
Poile will NOT retain salary.

- HenryHockey

Just threw up in my mouth a little bit!!
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 11 @ 12:26 PM ET
Not with his attitude!!
- Buff36


No doubt this is true.

There are also answers..
1.2 ppg player a season ago
Definitive 1C
Top 10 Center
Unbelieveable Zone Exit and Zone Entry with Possession metrics
Drives PP
Makes other players better
Young, entering prime
Under control for 5 years

Does Jack need to be the Captain and Leader...or just have a voice?
Is $10m too expensive for a 90 pt player

I would expect the return to be
-'21-1st in Top 10, if lower then '22-1st as well
-'22-1st / good, under 25 roster player (top 6 material)
-A+ prospect at C



Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jul 11 @ 12:27 PM ET
Rhino and Risto and Ullmarks rights to the Preds for Duchene and Ellis and Ingram
Poile will NOT retain salary.

- HenryHockey

.
Did you steal this from hf boards
Lol

Doesn't help us at all
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jul 11 @ 12:30 PM ET
No doubt this is true.

There are also answers..
1.2 ppg player a season ago
Definitive 1C
Top 10 Center
Unbelieveable Zone Exit and Zone Entry with Possession metrics
Drives PP
Makes other players better
Young, entering prime
Under control for 5 years

Does Jack need to be the Captain and Leader...or just have a voice?
Is $10m too expensive for a 90 pt player

I would expect the return to be
-'21-1st in Top 10, if lower then '22-1st as well
-'22-1st / good, under 25 roster player (top 6 material)
-A+ prospect at C

- IonSabres



Agree with all that
Now put the positive/negative together
And that should be the cost
But he's only worth what they will pay
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 11 @ 12:30 PM ET
I’d marry pecas grit and leadership
With Scheifele skill upside.

- lulags

i now pronounce him dylan markael scheifca
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 11 @ 12:32 PM ET
Big load, hopefully Karmanos is as good as we hope, cause he could really help.
- Buff36

i'm not gonna make any predictions on what happens...kevyn seems like a shifty dude and has a good idea as to how the game is played...however, does he have the wherewithal to see this through while clinging, as best he can, to his guns...

maybe he should shine a big "DR" spotlight in the sky
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