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lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 11 @ 1:35 PM ET
Define superstar.

I would certainly be targeting a > 82 pt player for my 1C...would like closer to 90 pts

- IonSabres

Who’s going go to give us this for someone who’s never accomplished this?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 11 @ 1:42 PM ET
I’m on board with this as long as they are long term solution assets and not the quick fix solutions that got us to where we are today
- lulags


In my post that you originally responded to, I said I would pick Beniers and Eklund at 1 and 3, if they get 3 from Anaheim, as my 2 Centers.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 11 @ 1:45 PM ET
I’m leaning toward this. I don’t see any team giving up a potential franchise prospect + + for Eichel. Even if they are, I’m sure it would come with a massive dump of the Okposo or Moulson variety, which is what got us here. Not sure there is a legitimate Eichel trade out there this year, but I could be shocking wrong
- lulags


Many/most way overrate prospects.

What are the realistic chances any of Zegras, Byfield, etc. become close to as good as Eichel? 5%? 10%? Feels like a remote chance, but so many act like it's a given, which is hilarious.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
In my post that you originally responded to, I said I would pick Beniers and Eklund at 1 and 3, if they get 3 from Anaheim, as my 2 Centers.
- kingcong39

still think ya gotta go power 1-overall...in trade scenarios with an additional pick coming back i'm looking for:

2. vegas--beniers
3. ana--eklund
5. clb--guenther
8. lak--wallstedt
9. van--sillinger
12. chi--lysell
13. cal--mcgirgensons
16. rags--raty
22. min--cossa
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 11 @ 1:52 PM ET
Dylan Cozens will score the greatest goal in Sabres history.

If Eichel wants to play for Bruins and the Bruins want him, then we want Pasta. Keep it simple. Then trade #1 OA to Hawks for PK88. Loaded for bear. Get it effin crankin.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 11 @ 1:54 PM ET
Many/most way overrate prospects.

What are the realistic chances any of Zegras, Byfield, etc. become close to as good as Eichel? 5%? 10%? Feels like a remote chance, but so many act like it's a given, which is hilarious.

- kingcong39

I agree with you that the value is placed way too high on unproven, high level prospects. It’s a combination of over confident scouting and probably a bit of if they turn out to be better than what we got in return, I’ll lose my job
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 1:55 PM ET
still think ya gotta go power 1-overall...in trade scenarios with an additional pick coming back i'm looking for:

2. vegas--beniers
3. ana--eklund
5. clb--guenther
8. lak--wallstedt
9. van--sillinger
12. chi--lysell
13. cal--mcgirgensons
16. rags--raty
22. min--cossa

- Michael Pachla

That's a nice list!!
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 11 @ 1:56 PM ET
Dylan Cozens will score the greatest goal in Sabres history.

If Eichel wants to play for Bruins and the Bruins want him, then we want Pasta. Keep it simple. Then trade #1 OA to Hawks for PK88. Loaded for bear. Get it effin crankin.

- Hatboro_Swords

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 11 @ 1:58 PM ET
That's a nice list!!
- Buff36

thx...some might argue the goalie spots but if they're that good, draft 'em
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 11 @ 1:59 PM ET
Dylan Cozens will score the greatest goal in Sabres history.

If Eichel wants to play for Bruins and the Bruins want him, then we want Pasta. Keep it simple. Then trade #1 OA to Hawks for PK88. Loaded for bear. Get it effin crankin.

- Hatboro_Swords

I like where this is going, Cozens will have some epic Sabres moments for us to relish/scrutinize for years to come
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 11 @ 2:11 PM ET
still think ya gotta go power 1-overall...in trade scenarios with an additional pick coming back i'm looking for:

2. vegas--beniers
3. ana--eklund
5. clb--guenther
8. lak--wallstedt
9. van--sillinger
12. chi--lysell
13. cal--mcgirgensons
16. rags--raty
22. min--cossa

- Michael Pachla


I would not go Powers at 1 as the Sabres are about to lose their 2 best forwards, and assuming neither of Zegras or Byfield are coming back in an Eichel deal.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 2:12 PM ET
https://thehockeywriters....l-draft-prospect-profile/
Eklund train!!!
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 2:16 PM ET
thx...some might argue the goalie spots but if they're that good, draft 'em
- Michael Pachla

I really like Cossa, he would be nice at 22-24 range, but might be gone even by then.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
am of the opinion ya work with what ya got
- Michael Pachla


Well of course, what else do you do, give up?
I thought the question was in the context of defining what the desired return on the trade of 3 young players would bring.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 2:20 PM ET
Gotta Love Shark Week!!
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 11 @ 2:21 PM ET
I hope we can keep Reinhart.

Trade Risto to NJ or Philly.

- mhp


I hope we can keep Eichel and Reinhart
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 11 @ 2:21 PM ET
Many/most way overrate prospects.

What are the realistic chances any of Zegras, Byfield, etc. become close to as good as Eichel? 5%? 10%? Feels like a remote chance, but so many act like it's a given, which is hilarious.

- kingcong39



Including their respective GM's?
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
I would not go Powers at 1 as the Sabres are about to lose their 2 best forwards, and assuming neither of Zegras or Byfield are coming back in an Eichel deal.
- kingcong39

Drafting for need in hockey is a bad practice.

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 2:29 PM ET
Including their respective GM's?
- Powerslave

Very True!!
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 11 @ 2:34 PM ET
Drafting for need in hockey is a bad practice.
- OneKaneOneCup


Yes and no. If your available prospects are all similarly ranked then there is nothing wrong with leaning towards the guy that fits your need.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 2:37 PM ET
I hope we can keep Eichel
- Mentalorgasm5



that ship sailed

OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 11 @ 2:39 PM ET
Yes and no. If your available prospects are all similarly ranked then there is nothing wrong with leaning towards the guy that fits your need.
- Slump Buster

But those needs change very quickly. None of these forwards are close to NHL ready. They won’t be making a serious NHL impact for 2-3 years

Remember when in the span of 3/4 weeks our depth forwards went from nobody competent to Asplund, Mittelstadt, Thompson, Bjork?

They need to draft who they think is the best prospect regardless of position
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 2:39 PM ET
Drafting for need in hockey is a bad practice.
- OneKaneOneCup

see quinn
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girgens
pysyk
kassian
persson
zagrapan
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 11 @ 2:40 PM ET
Dylan Cozens will score the greatest goal in Sabres history.

If Eichel wants to play for Bruins and the Bruins want him, then we want Pasta. Keep it simple. Then trade #1 OA to Hawks for PK88. Loaded for bear. Get it effin crankin.

- Hatboro_Swords

Why the (frank) would Boston trade Pasternak for Eichel? You are not right in the head boy.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 11 @ 2:42 PM ET
But those needs change very quickly. None of these forwards are close to NHL ready. They won’t be making a serious NHL impact for 2-3 years

Remember when in the span of 3/4 weeks our depth forwards went from nobody competent to Asplund, Mittelstadt, Thompson, Bjork?

They need to draft who they think is the best prospect regardless of position

- OneKaneOneCup


I don't disagree with any of that. I just said that if you are short in the pipeline at a certain position and your grades are equal on whatever is on the board there is nothing wrong with using that as a tiebreaker. Going off the board for need is certainly a mistake.

Also, every organization thinks that it is better than everyone else at scouting.
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