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HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jul 11 @ 3:51 PM ET
Trade #1 OA for #6 OA and Fabbri!
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 11 @ 3:53 PM ET
61 points in 69 games is not a 68 point pace it is a 72/73 point pace
- Stripes77

Great, sorry. So it’s still less than 77 and 62 is less than 72/73 correct?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:56 PM ET
Great, sorry. So it’s still less than 77 and 62 is less than 72/73 correct?
- OneKaneOneCup



If you're going to complain about a 4 point drop I am sure as poop going to give you a hard time when you say his production is dropping...

If you wanted to say last season was big drop then sure.

He went from a mid 70's per season player to a low 60's point player.

But seriously going from 77 to 73 points is not a OMG the sky is falling drop
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 11 @ 3:57 PM ET
Calgary has been a tire fire for that exact amount of time, too. All of them had down seasons the past couple years.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I’m not trading 1OA for Tkachuk and a Mid first.

He’s also a headcase

It’s a hard no for me

He looked like a superstar winger a few years ago.

Now he looks like a good winger that’s also a headache to deal with
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 11 @ 3:58 PM ET
If you're going to complain about a 4 point drop I am sure as poop going to give you a hard time when you say his production is dropping...

If you wanted to say last season was big drop then sure.

He went from a mid 70's per season player to a low 60's point player.

But seriously going from 77 to 73 points is not a OMG the sky is falling drop

- Stripes77

True or false, he’s produced less each of the past few seasons?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:00 PM ET
True or false, he’s produced less each of the past few seasons?
- OneKaneOneCup



True or false you thought he dropped by 9 points prior and now you're just holding firm with your initial stance even though your math was wrong...

MGK1
Location: Lost my password again :/
Joined: 03.16.2021

Jul 11 @ 4:01 PM ET
He's been on a 72 point average per 82 games throughout the last 3 years...

This last season was a down year where he was on a 63 point pace

Gotta remember he played 69 game before the season was stopped for Covid and had 61 points at the time

- Stripes77


He's a child on ice hard pass.

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:04 PM ET
He's a child on ice hard pass.
- MGK1



He is a poop stirrer I will give you that...

Perhaps that's is something this team needs?
MGK1
Location: Lost my password again :/
Joined: 03.16.2021

Jul 11 @ 4:05 PM ET
Trade the First overall for tom wilson , mantha.


OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 11 @ 4:07 PM ET
True or false you thought he dropped by 9 points prior and now you're just holding firm with your initial stance even though your math was wrong...
- Stripes77

My quote “his production has dipped each of the last few years”

True
MGK1
Location: Lost my password again :/
Joined: 03.16.2021

Jul 11 @ 4:07 PM ET
He is a poop stirrer I will give you that...

Perhaps that's is something this team needs?

- Stripes77

https://youtu.be/YOI_292QHUc

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:09 PM ET
My quote “his production has dipped each of the last few years”

True

- OneKaneOneCup



You said less productive

You're arguing semantics over going from a 77 point player to a 73 point player

If you wanted to say his production this year turned you off so be it, but nobody is going to say he he was a less productive yet still over 70 point winger...
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 11 @ 4:13 PM ET
You said less productive

You're arguing semantics over going from a 77 point player to a 73 point player

If you wanted to say his production this year turned you off so be it, but nobody is going to say he he was a less productive yet still over 70 point winger...

- Stripes77

Uh, except his last season was a 62 point one.

And I don’t even care about the points. His metrics have been worse too

He’s not the superstar he looked like
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 4:21 PM ET
Uh, except his last season was a 62 point one.

And I don’t even care about the points. His metrics have been worse too

He’s not the superstar he looked like

- OneKaneOneCup

There hole team has been bad, just not 1 person.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 11 @ 4:24 PM ET
There hole team has been bad, just not 1 person.
- Buff36

Hes a good player

There’s way too many issues/hurdles for me to trade 1OA for him

It’s a hard pass

If they gave up something else I’d be more inclined
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:27 PM ET
Anyone else wish they’d just get this over with?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 4:31 PM ET
Anyone else wish they’d just get this over with?
- SyrSabreFan

Yes, but want it done right.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 11 @ 4:32 PM ET
Trade the First overall for tom wilson , mantha.
- MGK1



This is interesting
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 11 @ 4:33 PM ET
Yes, but want it done right.
- Buff36



Realistically, if they are chasing futures the organization won’t know if they won for 2/3 years.

What defines right in the scenario?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 4:33 PM ET
He done
- IndianaSabresFan

can't putt

5 points out
6 holes to go
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 4:37 PM ET
Realistically, if they are chasing futures the organization won’t know if they won for 2/3 years.

What defines right in the scenario?

- washedup20

1st rnd pick, either good young roster player plus a top 5 prospect or 2 of your top 5 prospects.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:39 PM ET
He would be a fantastic add, and would help at the box office.
- Buff36


He's got 2 seasons left before becoming a UFA, similar to Reinhart before last season, except his QO is big at $9M.

Are you committing a big time contract to him shortly after he arrives? If not, trading for him makes little sense.

Even if you are committing a big contract to him and he'd sign it, I'm not sure it's a great idea 💡.
MGK1
Location: Lost my password again :/
Joined: 03.16.2021

Jul 11 @ 4:41 PM ET
This is interesting
- washedup20


Two hard working gritty proven players could help this team moving forward.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:43 PM ET
There hole team has been bad, just not 1 person.
- Buff36


Sound like the Sabres at all? Actually, the Sabres have been far worse.

You're going to trade for him, commit a big contract to him (or why bother trading for him), and hope he turns things around on the Sabres who have been a tire fire for a decade.

Does any of the above sound like a plan that will work out well?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:44 PM ET
1st rnd pick, either good young roster player plus a top 5 prospect or 2 of your top 5 prospects.
- Buff36


If it's a team's 4th and 5th ranked prospect, it's a swift no on the deal.
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