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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:08 PM ET
The Lightning were a fun villain to root against. They won, oh well. Gonna be real obnoxious hearing about cap stuff for the next decade or so because people can’t move on.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:11 PM ET
Good to know that unless they can get him to take off another year so they can circumvent the cap, they are going to lose all of their UFA's and probably have to give a first round pick for some one to take Tyler Johnson!
- stevens87

Remember when half the board wanted to actually give Tampa something for Tyler Johnson?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:13 PM ET
Blueger needs a new contract and then Rust, McCann, and Kapanen all have expiring contracts next year and are due for raises. Unloading Zucker will help, but it seems like a lateral move to trade zucker just to sign Saad or Tatar.

This team appears to have the worst luck with injuries or just an awful training staff, but if this team is mostly healthy, I’m ok running the same roster as last year

- drummer829

We're basically only worrying about next year at this point. They'll probably need to make significant subtractions after that.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
Remember when half the board wanted to actually give Tampa something for Tyler Johnson?
- Tojo.


RW wanted Tyler Johnson instead of Matheson

Personally, I'd still take Matheson. We might have had Johnson and not picked up Carter
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:33 PM ET
quotes not working..

What are your thoughts on Tyler Bertuzzi being available?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 12 @ 2:55 PM ET
LOL @ the Oilers
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 12 @ 3:03 PM ET
quotes not working..

What are your thoughts on Tyler Bertuzzi being available?

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Pay up female doges.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 12 @ 3:06 PM ET
Ken Holland is the man
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 12 @ 3:29 PM ET
Ken Holland is the man
- kfinl170

An absolute clown of a GM.
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Jul 12 @ 3:29 PM ET
He must of been hitting on Ducharme's wife or something. It seemed crazy they weren't playing this guy. He lead them in scoring last season. With so many guys playing hurt there's no way he wouldn't have helped. 3 or 4 yrs at 3.5M and there will be no regrets.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Jul 12 @ 3:35 PM ET
An absolute clown of a GM.
- Feds91Stammer


Wait, didn't he build the Red Wings great runs of Stanley Cups and playoff trips?
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 12 @ 3:44 PM ET
I think Keith might actually do ok'ish in Edmonton but I just can't believe they gave not only a good young player but had to sweeten the pot with a 3rd rounder. I would have loved to get a 3rd and Jones for either Pettersson or Matheson.

Weird to not sign Barrie but then add Keith at the same salary until he is 40. The worst part of it is Keith would only accept a trade to go west and Seattle, Vancouver and Calgary werent really options... should have been an easy trade for Holland to win.

Can we send them Jarry now for their 2nd rounder?
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
An absolute clown of a GM.
- Feds91Stammer


Imagine going from Chiarelli to Holland. Yikes
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 12 @ 3:46 PM ET
Wait, didn't he build the Red Wings great runs of Stanley Cups and playoff trips?
- stevens87

Lol no that was all develano and hakan andersson.
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Jul 12 @ 3:47 PM ET
Pay up female doges.
- Feds91Stammer


What do you think?


https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/edit/2545150
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
What do you think?


https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/edit/2545150

- nateca444

Link isn't working for me
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Jul 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
Link isn't working for me
- burgh4life87


Sorry.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/2545150
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 12 @ 4:08 PM ET
Is Caleb Jones really that good? Is he going to be that good? I don't think he's currently better than Keith and the Oilers added a 3 ringed champion veteran experience presence to their locker room and blue line. Not getting all the major dissing of Edmonton on this one. Maybe the not signing Barrie again is a factor... But for me that trade isn't as bad as some are making it out to be if you look at it in a vacuum.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 12 @ 4:12 PM ET
Is Caleb Jones really that good? Is he going to be that good? I don't think he's currently better than Keith and the Oilers added a 3 ringed champion veteran experience presence to their locker room and blue line. Not getting all the major dissing of Edmonton on this one. Maybe the not signing Barrie again is a factor... But for me that trade isn't as bad as some are making it out to be if you look at it in a vacuum.
- MattStrat

Dom's model hates him. Really don't think the Oilers gave up anything really of consequence and really its more just that Keith the player isn't currently worth a 3rd round pick, and when you factor his 5.5 mil cap hit over the next two years the Oilers paid a 3rd and a whatever prospect to just throw away cap space. Classic Oilers.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 12 @ 4:18 PM ET
Sorry.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/2545150

- nateca444

I don't really love it. Feels like rearranging deck chairs if that Bertuzzi trade is even in the realm of possibility. Assuming Dunn is legit, its a good move to make our blue line stronger, but our blue line isn't currently an on-ice problem. Finishing ability up front is our bigger non-goalie problem and I really don't think AA is the answer to that.
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Jul 12 @ 4:32 PM ET
I don't really love it. Feels like rearranging deck chairs if that Bertuzzi trade is even in the realm of possibility. Assuming Dunn is legit, its a good move to make our blue line stronger, but our blue line isn't currently an on-ice problem. Finishing ability up front is our bigger non-goalie problem and I really don't think AA is the answer to that.
- Victoro311


I like AA style. Especially for as cheap as he could be. Idk. Its fun to throw things at the wall and see what happens.
Btw, what ever happened to Ferland? Is he one concussion away from being Lindros?
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 12 @ 4:37 PM ET
Sorry.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/2545150

- nateca444


Rust at his and contract status probably does nothing for Detroit. My best guess is they are starting with a 1st and an NHL player. Jarry would be interesting if Detroit really is looking for a goalie of the future. I think he might still have value.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 12 @ 4:39 PM ET
Rust at his and contract status probably does nothing for Detroit. My best guess is they are starting with a 1st and an NHL player. Jarry would be interesting if Detroit really is looking for a goalie of the future. I think he might still have value.
- burgh4life87

I agree on the rust bit and I don’t think Jarry is young enough for Y to waste his time on him. He’s a project in his mid 20s so even if he pans out he’s be over the hill by the time Detroit is ready to do anything.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 12 @ 4:57 PM ET
I agree on the rust bit and I don’t think Jarry is young enough for Y to waste his time on him. He’s a project in his mid 20s so even if he pans out he’s be over the hill by the time Detroit is ready to do anything.
- Victoro311


Maybe, goalies are tough to judge. Especially one that hasn't had a full season to play.

I just wonder if Yzerman is asking for something close to what Mantha got, which was a massive overpayment.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 12 @ 5:15 PM ET
Sorry.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/2545150

- nateca444

30 GMs easily beat your offer. There is little to no value there for Detroit.
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