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wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 14 @ 11:17 AM ET
[quote=al3535]
What picks? Already missing our 2, 3, and 5 this year. And can't use our 2 or 3 next year due to clauses in the Keith deal. 4-7 picks aren't returning anything of value and our system isn't deep enough to be dealing away 1sts at this time. The only depth in our system is future dmen and possible goalies.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 14 @ 2:29 PM ET
But that's all based on the past. He's 38 and isn't playing well at all. And 'Only" 2 more years, he's 38. That's long-term for a guy pushing 40

Oilers issue is not 'Leadership" at all. they desperatly need more talent and depth. He is not a good D anymore.

- RogerRoeper



If healthy, a change of scenery will rejuvenate him a bit. He knows why he was brought in and could have a good impact in EDM. Again, EDM isn't going to be up against the cap this year. Don't want to beat a dead horse but they aren't bringing in a ton of top $ FAs anyways.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 14 @ 2:51 PM ET
If healthy, a change of scenery will rejuvenate him a bit. He knows why he was brought in and could have a good impact in EDM. Again, EDM isn't going to be up against the cap this year. Don't want to beat a dead horse but they aren't bringing in a ton of top $ FAs anyways.
- rrentz

Again, they ARE now hamstrung cap wise. They traded draft capital by locking the 2nd and 3rd picks next year in trades. And already don't have their 2nd, 3rd, or 5th this year. And only have 14M to acquire a 1LW, a 2RW, a 2RD, a goalie (preferably a 1a or b) and 2 extra forwards for injury insurance. This isn't just FA, and as much as you want to say no one will go there it is proven wrong. May have to overpay sure, but they do come. Many teams need to sell due to flat cap, see Tampa, on the cheap. Edmonton lost the ability to buy any of those from this deal. Buy you keep on trolling on.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 14 @ 4:36 PM ET
Again, they ARE now hamstrung cap wise. They traded draft capital by locking the 2nd and 3rd picks next year in trades. And already don't have their 2nd, 3rd, or 5th this year. And only have 14M to acquire a 1LW, a 2RW, a 2RD, a goalie (preferably a 1a or b) and 2 extra forwards for injury insurance. This isn't just FA, and as much as you want to say no one will go there it is proven wrong. May have to overpay sure, but they do come. Many teams need to sell due to flat cap, see Tampa, on the cheap. Edmonton lost the ability to buy any of those from this deal. Buy you keep on trolling on.
- wreckage


Trolling? So unless I say it was a horrible move, I'm a troll?..ok

And....you telling someone that the word "Tard" is socially unacceptable is grounds for having your man card revoked ......you pansy
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:55 PM ET
Trolling? So unless I say it was a horrible move, I'm a troll?..ok

And....you telling someone that the word "Tard" is socially unacceptable is grounds for having your man card revoked ......you pansy

- rrentz

No, you claiming no one ever signs in Canada repetitively is trolling. I pointed out many cases where guys have signed in Edmonton let alone western Canada and you said they were all trash.
Barrie.
Lucic when he was THE top FA in his market. And had 2 other better offers but chose EDM.
Sekeras was a top 3 D FA in his year.
And a handful of other useful FA in the past few years.

But hey they are all trash.

And yes, most social sites with any sort of moderation would ban someone for using a slang for a disabled person these days. Offend me? Nope, but most Karen's and Ken's these days go apepoop over it. You're a troll for going into a blog that has 0 concern to you, you're not a Oilers or Blackhawks fan, and intentionally stirring the pot attempting to get a rise out of people. Congrats, you got 3 responses from me. I won't waste any more time on you unless you have something worthy of discussing. Right now you just want to talk sh¡t. Coming from a fan of a team that hasn't seen any success in 5 years... I'll focus my time on a more relevant fan base like the Islanders or Penguins.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 14 @ 5:11 PM ET
Trolling? So unless I say it was a horrible move, I'm a troll?..ok

And....you telling someone that the word "Tard" is socially unacceptable is grounds for having your man card revoked ......you pansy

- rrentz

And you actually used the word 'pansy' in a discussion in 2021...



FYI, the Holy Grail came out in 1975... context.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 14 @ 5:26 PM ET
And you actually used the word 'pansy' in a discussion in 2021...



FYI, the Holy Grail came out in 1975... context.

- geta02it
. Oops, I meant puuuusssy, faaaaagot, and diiiiickhead. Better?
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 14 @ 6:31 PM ET
. Oops, I meant puuuusssy, faaaaagot, and diiiiickhead. Better?
- rrentz

More typical New Yorker, yep. Class act!
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jul 14 @ 6:47 PM ET
Trolling? So unless I say it was a horrible move, I'm a troll?..ok

And....you telling someone that the word "Tard" is socially unacceptable is grounds for having your man card revoked ......you pansy

- rrentz


don't attempt to engage this clown. He came over by our board.

Account likely operated by Simple Jack. Gods speed.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 14 @ 8:02 PM ET
don't attempt to engage this clown. He came over by our board.

Account likely operated by Simple Jack. Gods speed.

- SteveRain

This guy is just pissy cause I called him out for condoning the actions of Brad Aldrich. I didn't dis his team or anything. Just stated that maybe Brent Sopel didn't speak out until now because he originally feared for his job and then kept quiet for the victims sake or because it tore him up mentally until now so he finally spoke out. But Stevie boy thinks Brent is just just being a hypocrite and doing this for some sort of benefit for himself.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 14 @ 8:30 PM ET
This guy is just pissy cause I called him out for condoning the actions of Brad Aldrich. I didn't dis his team or anything. Just stated that maybe Brent Sopel didn't speak out until now because he originally feared for his job and then kept quiet for the victims sake or because it tore him up mentally until now so he finally spoke out. But Stevie boy thinks Brent is just just being a hypocrite and doing this for some sort of benefit for himself.
- wreckage


Don't know the whole story about how
Brad Aldrich reacted , but if a grown man, not to mention a professional NHL player feels he is being sexually assaulted then ya punch the guy in the face and drag him out of the building. Problem solved
al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 14 @ 11:37 PM ET
No, you claiming no one ever signs in Canada repetitively is trolling. I pointed out many cases where guys have signed in Edmonton let alone western Canada and you said they were all trash.
Barrie.
Lucic when he was THE top FA in his market. And had 2 other better offers but chose EDM.
Sekeras was a top 3 D FA in his year.
And a handful of other useful FA in the past few years.

But hey they are all trash.

And yes, most social sites with any sort of moderation would ban someone for using a slang for a disabled person these days. Offend me? Nope, but most Karen's and Ken's these days go apepoop over it. You're a troll for going into a blog that has 0 concern to you, you're not a Oilers or Blackhawks fan, and intentionally stirring the pot attempting to get a rise out of people. Congrats, you got 3 responses from me. I won't waste any more time on you unless you have something worthy of discussing. Right now you just want to talk sh¡t. Coming from a fan of a team that hasn't seen any success in 5 years... I'll focus my time on a more relevant fan base like the Islanders or Penguins.

- wreckage




al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 14 @ 11:38 PM ET
More typical New Yorker, yep. Class act!
- geta02it

TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jul 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
So you are doubting Hockey buzz's Cap central page? How do you justify that? Look the two up then and if I am wrong I will happily admit that. I would like to not sound like a moron if you are correct and I am wrong. It is up to date, so that is the one I am going to use. It has DK2 and Soderlund on it so I would take that as up to date and accurate. So we need a 1 LW? Was that a typo? Pretty sure LD29 has that one covered quite well, or RNH93? Whatever that one is not a discussion, well to me anyway. RNH or Draisaitl is a 1 LW or 2 C, agreed? A 2 LW I ll give you that. His name is Tomas Tatar. And he was paid let us see. 2,750,000 in 2020. He played 5 or 6 games in a Stanley Cup run to the finals. Hmmm I wonder if his stock rose or dropped cause of the last 8 or so weeks. So Holland has a bit of a chance on Tuna, or am I delusional? Would you agree Holland and Tuna have a history and good rapport from their 10 year give or take time in Detroit? So that one is crossed off. On a Barrie show me type contract with any luck? I guess we will see on July 28 - the start of August on that one. A 2 nd Pair LD? Really? Is there something wrong with Nurse, Keith (LOL), or Russel? A spare D meh ok I ll give you that. Say any of these guys just cause I felt like clicking on the Bruins : Mike Reilly D UFA
Kevan Miller D UFA
Steven Kampfer D UFA
Jarred Tinordi. D UFA

I would think league minimum gets one of them. As for a G? Pretty sure with Seattle coming into the league and only 1 G being able to be protected league wide there will be deals to be had and for cheap. So tell me again how screwed we are cause of DK2? As you so astutely mentioned a buy out of Neal or Koskinen is on the horizon too.

Broberg was with us for the whole play in series and looked damn good in the bubble. He absolutely has a shot of playing in the NHL next year BTW. The Oilers already have Stalock (785,000) as our NHL # 3 on our cap . Two extra forwards that is league minimum or close to it.


I haven't worked in over a decade so I spend A LOT of time on the Oilers. Kind of know my stuff.

Thanks for coming out

- al3535


Holy (frank) you’re dumb.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jul 15 @ 12:45 PM ET
For a team with very little character, I don't think this is a bad trade.
Case in point the monumental collapse of the Oilers vs the Jets.
The team needs a leader on the back end... it is not Klefbom, Nurse, or Larsson...

Keith is someone who can rally the troops in those dire times.

The team has no one with the same level of experience.

The cap hit sucks, but Jones wasn't going to make the lineup next season anyway... so using the term asset is a little generous.

Again, you don't have to like the cap hit... but the team is better than it was before

- Eersel


Yeah all those other veteran leaders they brought in in the past that had been there and won cups made such a big difference over the years…
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