Or you trade him and play the damn kids you drafted a couple years ago. It's time to see what they can do and Rust would bring big value to a team like Edmonton that overpaid for Duncan Keith. He has value particularly for futures. The solution is not in the free agent market unless it's cheap and looking for upside plays. We have plenty of wings. Time to move some.

I get the feeling he ends up in Washington. Most of the high end contenders are set on the blue line and I feel like there’s always a perception around the league that Washington are top tier contenders even when they’re not.
- Victoro311

They have no cap.

Holland about to give him 3 x 6m.
- Feds91Stammer

Suter and Parise are both being paid 6.7M for the next 8 years. I think we see Suter sign a friendly contract to go cup chasing.

Yes a chance to miss the playoffs. Ya jackasss
- Feds91Stammer

hahah I agree, there's definitely a chance of that as well...

Or you trade him and play the damn kids you drafted a couple years ago. It's time to see what they can do and Rust would bring big value to a team like Edmonton that overpaid for Duncan Keith. He has value particularly for futures. The solution is not in the free agent market unless it's cheap and looking for upside plays. We have plenty of wings. Time to move some.
- VoiceofLange

Counting on overaged kids from the Q to jump in to the top line is not something you do during the last two or three so years of the Crosby/Malkin Era.

They have no cap.
- Feds91Stammer

I’m saying that would be one of the teams he’d consider signing for next to nothing with.

Suter and Parise are both being paid 6.7M for the next 8 years. I think we see Suter sign a friendly contract to go cup chasing.
- kfinl170

You might want to check your math.

You might want to check your math.
- Feds91Stammer

From Russo “ The Wild will pay each $6.7 million over the next eight years and be charged with $2.371 million, $6.371 million and $7.371 million cap hits in the next four years, respectively, for each, then $833,333 cap hits the four years after that for each.”

I’m saying that would be one of the teams he’d consider signing for next to nothing with.
- Victoro311

Lou gonna get rid of Eberle and Leddy so Parise and Suter can keep their bunk beds.

From Russo “ The Wild will pay each $6.7 million over the next eight years and be charged with $2.371 million, $6.371 million and $7.371 million cap hits in the next four years, respectively, for each, then $833,333 cap hits the four years after that for each.”
- kfinl170

6.7m total…

6.7m total…
- Feds91Stammer

Ah I see. Well he could have written that differently, seems a bit ambiguous.

I mean, 4.7 mill cap hit for nothing is crazy enough...but the years after? insane. McDavid+ cap hits....

Counting on overaged kids from the Q to jump in to the top line is not something you do during the last two or three so years of the Crosby/Malkin Era.
- Victoro311

They weren't overaged, but either way they aren't making that type of impact at the NHL level in some time, if ever.

I mean, 4.7 mill cap hit for nothing is crazy enough...but the years after? insane. McDavid+ cap hits....


- MattStrat

They probably worried about cap recapture penalties too if they retired early.

They weren't overaged, but either way they aren't making that type of impact at the NHL level in some time, if ever.
- burgh4life87

Do you not count towards the overage player allotment per team if you turn 20 within the season?

They probably worried about cap recapture penalties too if they retired early.
- burgh4life87

That's a good point, never thought about it....but I thought that was only for players who sign contracts after 35?

Do you not count towards the overage player allotment per team if you turn 20 within the season?
- Victoro311

On or before December 31st of that season. They both were just in their final regular season in the Q.

That's a good point, never thought about it....but I thought that was only for players who sign contracts after 35?
- MattStrat

Nah that’s totally different. 35+ you’re on the hook no matter what. Cap recapture is for the long term deals that are front loaded. Aka they put a rule in place after a handful of GMs found a cap loophole to reduce the cap hit.

That's a good point, never thought about it....but I thought that was only for players who sign contracts after 35?
- MattStrat

No I think it’s for players that sign contracts that take them past 35 years. I think Kovalchuck was like 27 when he signed the Jersey contract that sparked all this.

On or before December 31st of that season. They both were just in their final regular season in the Q.
- burgh4life87

Either way they should lead the league in production by a mile if they are nhl ready.

Either way they should lead the league in production by a mile if they are nhl ready.
- Feds91Stammer

Yah, that's why I said they won't have an impact and shouldn't be counted to have an impact. They both regressed in the regular season so their playoff performances were nice to see. They just definitely need time in the AHL first. I still don't think Poulin becomes more than a 4th liner and Legare is 50-50 to make the NHL as a regular.

On or before December 31st of that season. They both were just in their final regular season in the Q.
- burgh4life87

Gotcha yeah we’re talking about January and February birthdays so while they’re not technically in overage years, they’re within the age range where production in the Q becomes a lot less impressive.

No I think it’s for players that sign contracts that take them past 35 years. I think Kovalchuck was like 27 when he signed the Jersey contract that sparked all this.
- Victoro311

There’s only a few left that are cap recapture risks after these buyouts and only 1 of them is actually potentially bad.

Weber
Keith
Crosby
Carter
Quick
J Staal

There’s only a few left that are cap recapture risks after these buyouts and only 1 of them is actually potentially bad.

Weber
Keith
Crosby
Carter
Quick
J Staal
- Feds91Stammer

Who besides Weber? Are you insinuating that Sid will retire before his contract is up? The rest of those guys only have one or two years of term left.

There’s only a few left that are cap recapture risks after these buyouts and only 1 of them is actually potentially bad.

Weber
Keith
Crosby
Carter
Quick
J Staal
- Feds91Stammer

The Weber recapture would destroy Nashville