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Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 14 @ 8:18 PM ET
Myers and Schmidt both had significantly better years prior to joining the canucks. I have to think that shaw can only improve things, as they really can't get any worse.
- Codes1087


People forget that he also worked with Clark. The better defensive structures out there are pretty much in unison with what the Goaltenders are doing positionally with things like angles and rebounds.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 14 @ 8:24 PM ET
People forget that he also worked with Clark. The better defensive structures out there are pretty much in unison with what the Goaltenders are doing positionally with things like angles and rebounds.
- Load Management


They employed an AHL career defenseman who recently retired and only had a short stint as an AHL assistant coach, to run the defense of an NHL team. Baumer was the wrong choice from day 1 and the fact that he is still in the NHL as a coach is wrong.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 14 @ 8:29 PM ET
I still think he's got decent value being on an expiring contract.
- Load Management

I agree. I mean don't protect him by any means but using an asset to get rid of him, ridiculous.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 14 @ 8:30 PM ET
They employed an AHL career defenseman who recently retired and only had a short stint as an AHL assistant coach, to run the defense of an NHL team. Baumer was the wrong choice from day 1 and the fact that he is still in the NHL as a coach is wrong.
- Codes1087


Some people are better at teaching/explaining etc. Ken Hitchcock can’t even skate…

I’m not saying Baumer is a great coach, I literally have no idea, but if they chose to retain him he must do something well.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 14 @ 8:33 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie
@renlavoietva
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Obviously Shea Weber won’t miss time only because of his thumb injury. He has some issues with a foot, ankle and a knee. So that’s why he won’t be protected for the expansion draft and you have to expect he’ll be out for a long period.

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No one out circumvents the Habs without a fight . Drouin and Weber out

Tabernac.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 8:34 PM ET
It was strange reading an article about Clarke possibly being the best Dman in the entire draft. If he drops to us it's a no brainer IMO.
- golfingsince

Big if but you never know. We will get a good piece no matter what.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 8:35 PM ET
I honestly don't think any of those 3 will be available, unfortunately.
- Reubenkincade

That would mean no goalie picked to happen. Lucius be next up for me & maybe Lysell. Trade down be better if a good sweetener.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 8:37 PM ET
Did you read the blog?

Carol told us that the team is not offering him a contract, cheap or otherwise.

- 1970vintage

Of course I read the blog. Doesn’t mean an offer doesn’t happen later but I doubt it.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 14 @ 8:38 PM ET
Some people are better at teaching/explaining etc. Ken Hitchcock can’t even skate…

I’m not saying Baumer is a great coach, I literally have no idea, but if they chose to retain him he must do something well.

- 1970vintage


Even if he was a good communicator, I truly don't think he paid his dues and worked his way up to be an NHL coach. I think it also shows in how bad the defense has been since he has been employed by the Canucks. The canucks have had a bottom 5 defense in the league since.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 8:39 PM ET
Myers and Schmidt both had significantly better years prior to joining the canucks. I have to think that shaw can only improve things, as they really can't get any worse.
- Codes1087

That’s what Shaw was hired for essentially. I expect to see improvement but still much work to do building the D. Betting he has input for UFA D.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 8:40 PM ET
They employed an AHL career defenseman who recently retired and only had a short stint as an AHL assistant coach, to run the defense of an NHL team. Baumer was the wrong choice from day 1 and the fact that he is still in the NHL as a coach is wrong.
- Codes1087

Fire him yesterday lol
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 14 @ 8:44 PM ET
Fire him yesterday lol
- Nighthawk


I don't think anyone here is completely satisfied with this offseason's firing spree.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 8:48 PM ET
I don't think anyone here is completely satisfied with this offseason's firing spree.
- Load Management

Baumer could easily be gone in season. I honestly don’t know what he has done to stick around.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 14 @ 8:49 PM ET
Big if but you never know. We will get a good piece no matter what.
- Nighthawk

Likely, I mean even Gillis picked Hodgson and Horvat top 10. Hodgson without the back issues looks like a solid pick. Bourdon sure seemed like a great pick until his untimely death.

We're talking Ference territory for bad top 10 picks outside the JB regime which is largely dependent on JV and OJ. I'm not comparing to other players selected, just the players themselves. Even Bryan Allen played 700+ games.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 14 @ 8:52 PM ET
Baumer could easily be gone in season. I honestly don’t know what he has done to stick around.
- Nighthawk


It could be they are growing their own. Him being new to the coaching system he just needs to be shown the proper way. Instead of starting over they will show him his faults and fix them?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 14 @ 8:56 PM ET
Some people are better at teaching/explaining etc. Ken Hitchcock can’t even skate…

I’m not saying Baumer is a great coach, I literally have no idea, but if they chose to retain him he must do something well.

- 1970vintage

He loses 30% of his paycheque to Green playing poker, Travis ain't letting that fish get away.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 14 @ 9:05 PM ET
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 9:24 PM ET
Likely, I mean even Gillis picked Hodgson and Horvat top 10. Hodgson without the back issues looks like a solid pick. Bourdon sure seemed like a great pick until his untimely death.

We're talking Ference territory for bad top 10 picks outside the JB regime which is largely dependent on JV and OJ. I'm not comparing to other players selected, just the players themselves. Even Bryan Allen played 700+ games.

- golfingsince

JV probably a FA pick being JB just arrived. OJ caught me off guard. All said JB dials in on good picks 1st round & usually a steal on some level. Depth wise looking ahead we’ll need good picks later on.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 9:25 PM ET
He loses 30% of his paycheque to Green playing poker, Travis ain't letting that fish get away.
- A_SteamingLombardi

😂
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 14 @ 9:30 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 14 @ 9:49 PM ET
JV probably a FA pick being JB just arrived. OJ caught me off guard. All said JB dials in on good picks 1st round & usually a steaWel on some level. Depth wise looking ahead we’ll need good picks later on.
- Nighthawk

We'll see, I hope you're right.
I think it would be great if we had some kind of savant as a drafter but there's no evidence of that despite the narrative floating around.

We've drafted highly for the most part and it's been hit and miss.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 14 @ 9:57 PM ET
Even if he was a good communicator, I truly don't think he paid his dues and worked his way up to be an NHL coach. I think it also shows in how bad the defense has been since he has been employed by the Canucks. The canucks have had a bottom 5 defense in the league since.
- Codes1087

Would you take Lidster over him?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 14 @ 10:19 PM ET
Would you take Lidster over him?
- Shuswap Wap


i would have not renewed the contracts of green, baumer and brown and looked for more experienced coaches


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 10:23 PM ET
We'll see, I hope you're right.
I think it would be great if we had some kind of savant as a drafter but there's no evidence of that despite the narrative floating around.

We've drafted highly for the most part and it's been hit and miss.

- golfingsince

Imo picks past the 1st round have found some good to very good pieces. Enough to satisfy me with some prospects picked lately that could be nhlers.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 14 @ 10:24 PM ET
Would you take Lidster over him?
- Shuswap Wap

I’d give Lidster a try 👍
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