Codes1087
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Yeah because there’s been so many deals to be had so far - Nucker101
I literally just said everyone has been quiet.... |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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If the deadline comes and goes, and there was nothing done, I think it will be a pretty big failure on his part, considering what he told the media and other GMs. - Codes1087
He's says stupid sh it every year and the slurpers eat it up. Quite honestly, what's he going to do? He's never in a position of strength trying to make deals and the team as a whole has very few quality players, which is why they're most likely protecting a kid like Kole Lind with six games of unimpressive NHL experience. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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If the deadline comes and goes, and there was nothing done, I think it will be a pretty big failure on his part, considering what he told the media and other GMs. - Codes1087
You still believe what he says? |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Trades... - LeftCoaster
Then 8 year contracts? |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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You still believe what he says? - manvanfan
The slurpers believe everything he says, the haters think he's always lying. I give him the benefit of the doubt until it's too late. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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He's says stupid shit every year and the slurpers eat it up. Quite honestly, what's he going to do? He's never in a position of strength trying to make deals and the team as a whole has very few quality players, which is why they're most likely protecting a kid like Kole Lind with six games of unimpressive NHL experience. - LeftCoaster
Need to keep the 2nd for this draft. 3rd also. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Then 8 year contracts? - manvanfan
For EP40 and QH, I think they get shorter term deals but they're still going to eat up 14 million in cap space IMO. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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The slurpers believe everything he says, the haters think he's always lying. I give him the benefit of the doubt until it's too late. - Codes1087
If he does something, he does. If not. Another high pick maybe 😍 |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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For EP40 and QH, I think they get shorter term deals but they're still going to eat up 14 million in cap space IMO. - LeftCoaster
They should lock up their franchise players. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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If he does something, he does. If not. Another high pick maybe 😍 - manvanfan
Unfortunately the NHL isn't like the NBA. Blockbuster trades aren't a yearly thing like basketball. We should all be prepared for a very quiet day for the Canucks. |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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For EP40 and QH, I think they get shorter term deals but they're still going to eat up 14 million in cap space IMO. - LeftCoaster
Think EP will get 3 years, a bit more than Boeser got. Think Hughes will go either 2 or 4 year. Might take a very short bridge, leaving 2 RFA years or take it right to the edge. 2 years, $4.5 per or 4 years $5.75 per
$14 seems high to me unless one of them goes 8 years. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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They should lock up their franchise players. - manvanfan
It's been reported they're looking for shorter term deals to get past the flat cap years. Trying to maximize money down the road I guess. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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For EP40 and QH, I think they get shorter term deals but they're still going to eat up 14 million in cap space IMO. - LeftCoaster
Nah |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Think EP will get 3 years, a bit more than Boeser got. Think Hughes will go either 2 or 4 year. Might take a very short bridge, leaving 2 RFA years or take it right to the edge. 2 years, $4.5 per or 4 years $5.75 per
$14 seems high to me unless one of them goes 8 years. - 1970vintage
Barzal signed for 7 million/yr on a shorter three year deal, zero chance IMO that EP40 signs for anything south of that. |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Barzal signed for 7 million on a shorter deal, zero chance IMO that EP40 signs for anything south of that. - LeftCoaster
Depends on how they structure the contract. For example, if Petey gets say $6.5 AAV over three years, but his annual salary is $3.5m, $6.5m, $9.5m then his QO starts at $9.5.
I’m not sure if they can actually stretch that out this much, not sure what the year to year variation is allowed to be, but you get the idea. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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It's been reported they're looking for shorter term deals to get past the flat cap years. Trying to maximize money down the road I guess. - LeftCoaster
Spoiled mofos |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Unfortunately the NHL isn't like the NBA. Blockbuster trades aren't a yearly thing like basketball. We should all be prepared for a very quiet day for the Canucks. - Codes1087
Yeah cant protect really anyone unless they get rid of someone.
Schmidt can go to someone who losses a defender |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Depends on how they structure the contract. For example, if Petey gets say $6.5 AAV over three years, but his annual salary is $3.5m, $6.5m, $9.5m then his QO starts at $9.5.
I’m not sure if they can actually stretch that out this much, not sure what the year to year variation is allowed to be, but you get the idea. - 1970vintage is that the new rule or old one?
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Depends on how they structure the contract. For example, if Petey gets say $6.5 AAV over three years, but his annual salary is $3.5m, $6.5m, $9.5m then his QO starts at $9.5.
I’m not sure if they can actually stretch that out this much, not sure what the year to year variation is allowed to be, but you get the idea. - 1970vintage
I'm guessing 7 million a year for Petey and 6.75 million a year for Quinn Hughes. But what the hell do I know. |
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Depends on how they structure the contract. For example, if Petey gets say $6.5 AAV over three years, but his annual salary is $3.5m, $6.5m, $9.5m then his QO starts at $9.5.
I’m not sure if they can actually stretch that out this much, not sure what the year to year variation is allowed to be, but you get the idea. - 1970vintage
I think they changed that. When they returned to the bubble they did a quick update on the CBA .
Contracts signed after July 1 2020 no longer have to use the last year of the previous contract as the QO but rather the AAV has to be the QO or higher.
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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is that the new rule or old one? - manvanfan
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Pretty sure that there is a rule that the salary can’t change by more than 50% of the AAV per year or something? So in this case by $3.25m per year. |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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I think they changed that. When they returned to the bubble they did a quick update on the CBA .
Contracts signed after July 1 2020 no longer have to use the last year of the previous contract as the QO but rather the AAV has to be the QO or higher. - VANTEL
Ahh, hadn’t heard that. Well, doesn’t really make any difference how they structure the deals anymore then.
Though on long deals I can still see them going heavy on bonus and light on salary to protect against buyouts.
From Capfriendly:
For players who are on expiring contracts that were signed after July 10, 2020:
The Qualifying Offer is limited to 120% of their previous contracts annual average (AAV) |
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Ahh, hadn’t heard that. Well, doesn’t really make any difference how they structure the deals anymore then.
Though on long deals I can still see them going heavy on bonus and light on salary to protect against buyouts. - 1970vintage
CBA Reference 10.2 (a) (ii)
For players who are on expiring contracts that were signed after July 10, 2020:
The Qualifying Offer is limited to 120% of their previous contracts annual average (AAV)
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