I didnt think they'd use a spot on Landeskog with him being a UFA
- jimbro83

Id laugh if he signs a contract with Kraken.

Jan, I think Carp confusing Goodrow with Blake Coleman, I cant see Goodrow getting 4.5 mil a year


here's Carp:

Some quick thoughts:

Goodrow isn’t an automatic signing for the Rangers, just a head start. They will have to negotiate a contract with him. That said, it’s a head start on what will likely be a fairly expensive deal for a bottom-six forward, albeit one who can play all three forward positions. Goodrow, a sturdy 6-foot-2, 203-pounder, was only available because Tampa Bay is in salary-cap hell. It will likely take five years at $4.5 million per, and that might be on the light side, to persuade Goodrow to sign before reaching the open market.

But Goodrow, in addition to his Cup jewelry, would check a lot of boxes for the Rangers, who seek to add some grit, and the type of player who is difficult on opponents. Goodrow is that, although a lot of his success will depend on what type of line the Rangers have constructed around him. If anybody is expecting Goodrow to be a top-sixer, they are likely going to be disappointed.

4.5 million for Goodrow, I’m good. If the plan is to turn him into the 3C and pay him 3.75, I think I could get on board with that.

4.5 million for Goodrow, I’m good. If the plan is to turn him into the 3C and pay him 3.75, I think I could get on board with that.
- nyrangers9479

I was absolutely thinking a contract is the 3 million + range per season

maybe 6-7 years

I was absolutely thinking a contract is the 3 million + range per season

maybe 6-7 years
- jimbro83

I was thinking 2.85m x 5 years.

The thing is Im not paying this guy over 3m to be a fourth liner. Martinook brings the same kind of grit and game for almost half the price tag.

I was thinking 2.85m x 5 years.

The thing is Im not paying this guy over 3m to be a fourth liner. Martinook brings the same kind of grit and game for almost half the price tag.
- aecliptic

I want the Rangers to get the Goodrow contract done, so I don't want to lowball him, but over 4 million a year to me is out of question

mid 3's

I was thinking 2.85m x 5 years.

The thing is Im not paying this guy over 3m to be a fourth liner. Martinook brings the same kind of grit and game for almost half the price tag.
- aecliptic

Goodrow is a better player than Martinook. If they believe Goodrow will play somewhere in the top 9, whether it’s in a role similar to Fast/Blackwell on the 1st line or as the 3C, I’m ok with the mid 3’s. If they plan on just sticking him on the 4th line (which I don’t believe is the plan) then I don’t even know why we acquired him. From what I remember TBL paid a 1st for him last year.

Goodrow is a better player than Martinook. If they believe Goodrow will play somewhere in the top 9, whether it’s in a role similar to Fast/Blackwell on the 1st line or as the 3C, I’m ok with the mid 3’s. If they plan on just sticking him on the 4th line (which I don’t believe is the plan) then I don’t even know why we acquired him. From what I remember TBL paid a 1st for him last year.
- nyrangers9479

yeah I agree, Goodrow on the Rangers is way more than just a 4th liner

he's versatile, he'd play everywhere and he can take faceoffs if needed

Goodrow is a better player than Martinook. If they believe Goodrow will play somewhere in the top 9, whether it’s in a role similar to Fast/Blackwell on the 1st line or as the 3C, I’m ok with the mid 3’s. If they plan on just sticking him on the 4th line (which I don’t believe is the plan) then I don’t even know why we acquired him. From what I remember TBL paid a 1st for him last year.
- nyrangers9479

We were totally aggrivated when Blackwell was taking minutes away from Kakko and Krav. Goodrow isnt a scorer, how is it productive to have Kakko or Krav on the 3rd line?

As far as Im concerned, if they plan on playing Krav on the 3rd line then just trade him.

We were totally aggrivated when Blackwell was taking minutes away from Kakko and Krav. Goodrow isnt a scorer, how is it productive to have Kakko or Krav on the 3rd line?

As far as Im concerned, if they plan on playing Krav on the 3rd line then just trade him.
- aecliptic

that's ignoring the mandate to get bigger and tougher to play against

I personally didnt want to deviate from the plan, it was going ok by me, but after that Islander game you know it was going to be addressed this off season and at least Goodrow has proven he can play in big spots

We were totally aggrivated when Blackwell was taking minutes away from Kakko and Krav. Goodrow isnt a scorer, how is it productive to have Kakko or Krav on the 3rd line?

As far as Im concerned, if they plan on playing Krav on the 3rd line then just trade him.
- aecliptic

Blackwell lost his luster for me a lot sooner than he did for a lot of you. I was ready for him to see the 4th line about 10 games into the experiment, although I will say the guy kept surprising me by playing well. Could Goodrow turn into a 35-40 pt player with Panarin? If the answer is yes and he brings what Blackwell and Fast didn’t bring to that line (some toughness) then I say give it a try. With that said, I’d like to see him as our 3C.

Blackwell lost his luster for me a lot sooner than he did for a lot of you. I was ready for him to see the 4th line about 10 games into the experiment, although I will say the guy kept surprising me by playing well. Could Goodrow turn into a 35-40 pt player with Panarin? If the answer is yes and he brings what Blackwell and Fast didn’t bring to that line (some toughness) then I say give it a try. With that said, I’d like to see him as our 3C.
- nyrangers9479

Blackwell is a tiny soft player who got lucky with his shooting percentage early in the season

that's ignoring the mandate to get bigger and tougher to play against

I personally didnt want to deviate from the plan, it was going ok by me, but after that Islander game you know it was going to be addressed this off season and at least Goodrow has proven he can play in big spots
- jimbro83

I get it, if they want to pick up a premier C, put him with Panarin and put Goodrow on that line as the energy / physical presence on the line Im cool with that. However it would be a waste to play Krav on the 3rd line.

I get it, if they want to pick up a premier C, put him with Panarin and put Goodrow on that line as the energy / physical presence on the line Im cool with that. However it would be a waste to play Krav on the 3rd line.
- aecliptic

I think we have to wait for the entire off season to shake out before we start judging where guys will play, if Goodrow signs, it wont be the first move they make that's for sure

I get it, if they want to pick up a premier C, put him with Panarin and put Goodrow on that line as the energy / physical presence on the line Im cool with that. However it would be a waste to play Krav on the 3rd line.
- aecliptic

If Krav was on the 3rd line with Kreider and Strome would that bother you? Or Kreider and Dvorak?

I think we have to wait for the entire off season to shake out before we start judging where guys will play, if Goodrow signs, it wont be the first move they make that's for sure
- jimbro83

I am thinking Goodrow may be looking for
More term than higher cap hit. Going 6 years with him may help keep it in the low 3 million per year

I’m completely making this up and in no way suggesting things will look like this, but let’s say we make a few moves and the lineup looks like this:

Panarin Horvat Goodrow
Laf Zib Kakko
Kreider Dvorak Krav

Would that still bother u that Krav is on the 3rd line?

Blackwell lost his luster for me a lot sooner than he did for a lot of you. I was ready for him to see the 4th line about 10 games into the experiment, although I will say the guy kept surprising me by playing well. Could Goodrow turn into a 35-40 pt player with Panarin? If the answer is yes and he brings what Blackwell and Fast didn’t bring to that line (some toughness) then I say give it a try. With that said, I’d like to see him as our 3C.
- nyrangers9479

Curious his preferred position, but like the sound of him as 3C too. Likely comes in as the best F/O guy on the team.

17/18- 262 draws, won 57.8%
18/19- 551 draws, won 53.7%
19-20- 799 draws, won 49.2%
20/21- 324 draws, won 50.0%

The trend down is odd but he’s more than capable. Sometimes wonder if moving a player like him to center hinders his ability to be a spark plug/energy guy. Great to have the option though. Can’t touch $4M AAV.

Curious his preferred position, but like the sound of him as 3C too. Likely comes in as the best F/O guy on the team.

17/18- 262 draws, won 57.8%
18/19- 551 draws, won 53.7%
19-20- 799 draws, won 49.2%
20/21- 324 draws, won 50.0%

The trend down is odd but he’s more than capable. Sometimes wonder if moving a player like him to center hinders his ability to be a spark plug/energy guy. Great to have the option though. Can’t touch $4M AAV.
- TC88

Goodrow as a guy who can actually take draws is a plus, may be even a reason to play him with Chytil if he's still around

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Goodrow as a guy who can actually take draws is a plus, may be even a reason to play him with Chytil if he's still around
- jimbro83

I could see that happening but Chytil seems to be in no-mans-land on this roster. Not consistent enough to be considered a top 6 player but doesn’t make the type of impact you need from a bottom 6 guy either. He should have spent a lot more time in Hartford the past few seasons to round out his game on the top line. If he’s not traded I wouldn’t be mad at that idea to start the year to give him a spark.

I could see that happening but Chytil seems to be in no-mans-land on this roster. Not consistent enough to be considered a top 6 player but doesn’t make the type of impact you need from a bottom 6 guy either. He should have spent a lot more time in Hartford the past few seasons to round out his game on the top line. If he’s not traded I wouldn’t be mad at that idea to start the year to give him a spark.
- TC88

well there was no way to play him in Hartford this past season and he started off well until he hurt his wrist

faceoffs are his weakness and he looks hopeless, but other aspects of his game still look like he can become a force, he's still so young

I could see that happening but Chytil seems to be in no-mans-land on this roster. Not consistent enough to be considered a top 6 player but doesn’t make the type of impact you need from a bottom 6 guy either. He should have spent a lot more time in Hartford the past few seasons to round out his game on the top line. If he’s not traded I wouldn’t be mad at that idea to start the year to give him a spark.
- TC88

I hope hes gone. Im done seeing the Chytil-hypers making excuses.

Goodrow as a guy who can actually take draws is a plus, may be even a reason to play him with Chytil if he's still around
- jimbro83

I just have no idea where he plays, especially with the addition of Goodrow likely into the top 9. I could see a team like AZ or DET having interest in him, AZ bc he’s still cost controlled and DET bc they’re a dumpster fire in need of everything. I was amazed when I read their highest scorer for the entire season was a defenseman with a grand total of 26 pts for the season.

well there was no way to play him in Hartford this past season and he started off well until he hurt his wrist

faceoffs are his weakness and he looks hopeless, but other aspects of his game still look like he can become a force, he's still so young
- jimbro83

I keep saying it, hes not a center. This experiment in the middle needs to end and he has to be sent to a team that can play him on the wing.

If we can send Buch and Chytil for Horvat+ Id be ecstatic. As far as Van is concerned, they can move Miller back to the middle on the 2nd line, Buch goes to the right, Chytil goes to the left wing that Miller opens up.