Leddy was an offensive defensemen when his offense dried up he was useless. If we lose bailey to Seattle then we could trade ebs and have the cap space to sign all our RFAS and cizikas and palms.

Leddy was a weak link in the playoffs but he leaves a hole in our line up. Getting a second back was awesome and using it along with another to jettison Ladd was huge. We didn’t use a first but two seconds is still giving up assets to move a contract which is never ideal. Believe me I’m in no way being critical of the deal it was a great “trade” but to quote “cap issues” like we have/had none isn’t accurate. We NEED another D man and most likely another forward who are going to fill that empty space now without even factoring in our RFA/UFA signings. With that said I do agree that good GM’s have to find a way to navigate their way out of bad contracts.
- Cptmjl

I liked both deals and especially moving Ladd but it did cost us draft picks so it was not easy. The real test is if Lou can add that impact forward with the added space.

Leddy was a weak link in the playoffs but he leaves a hole in our line up. Getting a second back was awesome and using it along with another to jettison Ladd was huge. We didn’t use a first but two seconds is still giving up assets to move a contract which is never ideal. Believe me I’m in no way being critical of the deal it was a great “trade” but to quote “cap issues” like we have/had none isn’t accurate. We NEED another D man and most likely another forward who are going to fill that empty space now without even factoring in our RFA/UFA signings. With that said I do agree that good GM’s have to find a way to navigate their way out of bad contracts.
- Cptmjl

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My point is that we can always create cap room. ( Look at Tampa they won the cup with a line up that was $18 mill over the cap). People who constantly bring up the isles cap issues are insane about it... like it's their money. If we were able to get someone you really want on this team and it was going to cost a lot there are a ton of moves you can make to create the room to fit him..... we just jettisoned our worst contract issue BY FAR for essentially Leddy (who would have been taken in expansion draft for nothing) and a second.

Every team has to deal with the cap. We are FAAAAAAAR better than most teams who have multiple guys under contract making well over $9 mill a year.

I liked both deals and especially moving Ladd but it did cost us draft picks so it was not easy. The real test is if Lou can add that impact forward with the added space.
- ses111

I want ovi we dont have the package to trade for reinhart at this point I think

Leddy was an offensive defensemen when his offense dried up he was useless. If we lose bailey to Seattle then we could trade ebs and have the cap space to sign all our RFAS and cizikas and palms.
- Hockeyislife

Leddy and Bailey were the 2 guys I loved and hated. They drove me nuts a few times a game and made some great plays a few times a game. Ironic that those 2 were very responsible for the only goals scored on us in game 7 ... on the power play.

Leddy takes the body immediately then Palmieri has the puck.. if Bailey didn't feel the need to be a 3rd player going to the corner they don't have a guy wide open in front to score a shorty.

I want ovi we dont have the package to trade for reinhart at this point I think
- Hockeyislife

I don't want anyone over the age of 34 ... Those contracts usually are a disaster.

Not islanders,related but price will need knee surgery and is out for next season. Iou is a genius to be able to trade ladd. We did give up Alot but its worth it

anybody heard from Chiefs lately?

anybody heard from Chiefs lately?
- jimbro83

Crunching Cap numbers to see if we are still in trouble.

Not islanders,related but price will need knee surgery and is out for next season. Iou is a genius to be able to trade ladd. We did give up Alot but its worth it
- Hockeyislife

If that is truly the case.. and I don't believe it.. Do they have to expose another goalie? Not sure if he fits the parameters if he is hurt.

Some of these people on Social media losing their sht over a UFA like Landeskog being unprotected are literally complete idiots. Why would Seattle draft a UFA who can sign anywhere he wants 5 minutes after you drafted him.

I don't want anyone over the age of 34 ... Those contracts usually are a disaster.
- niteislander

Who cares? It's not like it's your money. "[W]e can always create cap room."

anybody heard from Chiefs lately?
- jimbro83

Have you checked Fire Island?

Some of these people on Social media losing their sht over a UFA like Landeskog being unprotected are literally complete idiots. Why would Seattle draft a UFA who can sign anywhere he wants 5 minutes after you drafted him.
- niteislander

I believe that Seattle can use this time before the expansion draft to try to reach an agreement with him.

I believe that Seattle can use this time before the expansion draft to try to reach an agreement with him.
- JohnScammo

When does the free agent window open up for Seattle

When does the free agent window open up for Seattle
- Hockeyislife

I'm not certain, but I believe it's open now.

Who cares? It's not like it's your money. "
- JohnScammo[W]e can always create cap room."

I don't want to sign a guy who ends up not playing b/c he is older, more likely to get hurt easily and slower.. ex.. Andrew Ladd, and most guys who end up on LTIR.

I don't want to sign a guy who ends up not playing b/c he is older, more likely to get hurt easily and slower.. ex.. Andrew Ladd, and most guys who end up on LTIR.
- niteislander

Just bustin'....

I think Ovi is generally healthy and in good shape. But I agree it's better not to sign guys his age to long-term deals. I also doubt he signs anywhere but in Washington.

I believe that Seattle can use this time before the expansion draft to try to reach an agreement with him.
- JohnScammo

That doesn't make sense.. If you are a UFA that means you can sign with anyone for any amount of $$. no where in the expansion draft rules does it say there is a window for them only to speak to UFA's. Teams have been talking to UFA agents for 2 weeks already.. don't think they stop at this point.

that said.. if they agree to something they would wait to file it until after expansion draft so they don't have to protect someone else.

Just bustin'....

I think Ovi is generally healthy and in good shape. But I agree it's better not to sign guys his age to long-term deals. I also doubt he signs anywhere but in Washington.
- JohnScammo

So was Ladd when we signed him.. scored 24 goals his first year and then fell apart.

My wish list.. in order..

1. sign Pelech long term deal
2. sign Beau long term deal
3. sign Casey...

4. Trade for Seth Jones
5. sign a UFA forward to replace Bailey or Ebs ... Landeskog or Hall would be my choices.

That doesn't make sense.. If you are a UFA that means you can sign with anyone for any amount of $$. no where in the expansion draft rules does it say there is a window for them only to speak to UFA's. Teams have been talking to UFA agents for 2 weeks already.. don't think they stop at this point.

that said.. if they agree to something they would wait to file it until after expansion draft so they don't have to protect someone else.
- niteislander

I didn't say that only Seattle could talk to UFAs. I said that Seattle could be trying to reach agreements with UFAs now BEFORE the expansion draft.

So was Ladd when we signed him.. scored 24 goals his first year and then fell apart.
- niteislander

Yes, and look how easy it was for our GM to rid us of Ladd's contract.

Have you checked Fire Island?
- JohnScammo

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My wish list.. in order..

1. sign Pelech long term deal
2. sign Beau long term deal
3. sign Casey...

4. Trade for Seth Jones
5. sign a UFA forward to replace Bailey or Ebs ... Landeskog or Hall would be my choices.
- niteislander

I would add: Sign Palmieri and sign Sorokin.