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- niteislander

My wish list.. in order..

1. sign Pelech long term deal
2. sign Beau long term deal
3. sign Casey...

4. Trade for Seth Jones
5. sign a UFA forward to replace Bailey or Ebs ... Landeskog or Hall would be my choices.
- niteislander

I like 1, 2, and 3.

Don’t like 4. He’s been pretty clear on which teams he wants to sign his next deal with, and said deal is gonna be steep. Especially in light of the recent Heiskanen (and soon Makar) deal.

I love hate 5. If you can get Landeskog, the great. If he’s not an option but Hall is, then you sign Palmieri. Hell, he should be signed anyway.

Should the Islanders miss out on big fish, I still think their top 9 can be very dangerous AND affordable.

Lee-Barzal-Eberle/Wahlstrom
Beauvillier-Nelson-Bailey/Palmieri
Parise-Pageau-Wahlstrom/Palmieri

Depending on who goes in expansion, any of the above could be affordable possibilities. Would also allow for the signing of a dependable top 4 LD like Oleksiak.

- JohnScammo

I was actually going to say that in the post..riot.

I like 1, 2, and 3.

Don’t like 4. He’s been pretty clear on which teams he wants to sign his next deal with, and said deal is gonna be steep. Especially in light of the recent Heiskanen (and soon Makar) deal.

I love hate 5. If you can get Landeskog, the great. If he’s not an option but Hall is, then you sign Palmieri. Hell, he should be signed anyway.

Should the Islanders miss out on big fish, I still think their top 9 can be very dangerous AND affordable.

Lee-Barzal-Eberle/Wahlstrom
Beauvillier-Nelson-Bailey/Palmieri
Parise-Pageau-Wahlstrom/Palmieri

Depending on who goes in expansion, any of the above could be affordable possibilities. Would also allow for the signing of a dependable top 4 LD like Oleksiak.
- Wildschwein

I just feel like Hall is still an Elite scorer and would bring some much needed offense... I think I am dreaming b/c he is not exactly a Trotz kind of player and sounds like he is staying in Boston, but Him on top line with Barzal and Lee would be friggin insanely dynamic.

[quote=Wildschwein]I like 1, 2, and 3.

Don’t like 4. He’s been pretty clear on which teams he wants to sign his next deal with, and said deal is gonna be steep. Especially in light of the recent Heiskanen (and soon Makar) deal.

As far as Seth goes.. anyone who gets to our team seems to love it here and I think this would be no different. He is an absolute Beast IMO and would fit in perfectly on this team top 4. We still have a lot of $$ coming off books next summer too.

Seth isn't exactly a huge point producer either so I don't see him getting Makar/Heskinen $$

I just feel like Hall is still an Elite scorer and would bring some much needed offense... I think I am dreaming b/c he is not exactly a Trotz kind of player and sounds like he is staying in Boston, but Him on top line with Barzal and Lee would be friggin insanely dynamic.
- niteislander

Except that Lee and Hall are both LW.

He’s one hell of a skilled player, don’t get me wrong. But I’ll be pouring myself a stiff celebratory bourbon when he signs for term in Boston.

[quote=Wildschwein]I like 1, 2, and 3.

Don’t like 4. He’s been pretty clear on which teams he wants to sign his next deal with, and said deal is gonna be steep. Especially in light of the recent Heiskanen (and soon Makar) deal.

As far as Seth goes.. anyone who gets to our team seems to love it here and I think this would be no different. He is an absolute Beast IMO and would fit in perfectly on this team top 4. We still have a lot of $$ coming off books next summer too.

Seth isn't exactly a huge point producer either so I don't see him getting Makar/Heskinen $$
- niteislander

He hasn’t been as offensively dynamic as the other two, that’s true. But then he’s played for an offensively inept organization for the majority of his prime, yet still managed to produce 195 points over 340 games.

I can’t see him signing for anything less than 8 per.

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My point is that we can always create cap room. ( Look at Tampa they won the cup with a line up that was $18 mill over the cap). People who constantly bring up the isles cap issues are insane about it... like it's their money. If we were able to get someone you really want on this team and it was going to cost a lot there are a ton of moves you can make to create the room to fit him..... we just jettisoned our worst contract issue BY FAR for essentially Leddy (who would have been taken in expansion draft for nothing) and a second.

Every team has to deal with the cap. We are FAAAAAAAR better than most teams who have multiple guys under contract making well over $9 mill a year.
- niteislander

Yes at will. Never has a team been limited from what they can do due to the salary cap.

He hasn’t been as offensively dynamic as the other two, that’s true. But then he’s played for an offensively inept organization for the majority of his prime, yet still managed to produce 195 points over 340 games.

I can’t see him signing for anything less than 8 per.
- Wildschwein

Even with the flat cap? That’s going to limit the field of teams that can sign him.

If Ovechkin were willing to sign a short term deal for reasonable dollars, then perhaps. Though I think any amount that Ovi would view as “reasonable” would be better spent on longer term solutions.
- Wildschwein

You are probably right about the $$$ he wants. He’s won a cup and probably wants to stay A Cap and would give them a discount vs anyone else.
Although the thought of OVi with Barzal seems very intriguing.

You are probably right about the $$$ he wants. He’s won a cup and probably wants to stay A Cap and would give them a discount vs anyone else.
Although the thought of OVi with Barzal seems very intriguing.
- nyisles7

It does indeed. And there is that Trotz-Ovi connection. But I suspect the Caps sign him long-term, so that he can finish his career with them.

POV Bailey or Eberle are easier to replace than Martin and Clutterbuck

POV Bailey or Eberle are easier to replace than Martin and Clutterbuck
- maximumcarnage

Eberle I'd agree is. It's not that he's not as good as any of the others, it's just that you can clearly describe his value and his role...he's a shooter, pure and simple. Not an elite 35-40 goal scorer, but a solid 25-ish goal scorer. As far as replacing him, you have two other options waiting in the wings...Palmieri could be a veteran replacement; Wahlstrom a younger one. Around the league there are many better and worse versions of him. I don't think it's so easy to just conjure up a really good one, but at least you know what you're looking for.

Bailey, though...how do you really describe him as a player? He has a wide-ranging skill set, but on any given night, you never know which one of those skills will be on display. He can make a few nice offensive plays one game, and then the offense disappears and he's making some decent transition plays. Then that goes away and he's doing something else. Just my opinion, but I think he's the hardest of all those players to replace not because he's a spectacular hockey player, but because you never really know what he's going to do in a given game. He's versatile, but inconsistently versatile, if that makes any sense.

Stefen Rosner
@stefen_rosner
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#Isles will make an offer on UFA Gabriel Landeskog if he hits the open market is what I’m being told.

Eberle I'd agree is. It's not that he's not as good as any of the others, it's just that you can clearly describe his value and his role...he's a shooter, pure and simple. Not an elite 35-40 goal scorer, but a solid 25-ish goal scorer. As far as replacing him, you have two other options waiting in the wings...Palmieri could be a veteran replacement; Wahlstrom a younger one. Around the league there are many better and worse versions of him. I don't think it's so easy to just conjure up a really good one, but at least you know what you're looking for.

Bailey, though...how do you really describe him as a player? He has a wide-ranging skill set, but on any given night, you never know which one of those skills will be on display. He can make a few nice offensive plays one game, and then the offense disappears and he's making some decent transition plays. Then that goes away and he's doing something else. Just my opinion, but I think he's the hardest of all those players to replace not because he's a spectacular hockey player, but because you never really know what he's going to do in a given game. He's versatile, but inconsistently versatile, if that makes any sense.
- UIF

Agree UIF, I think Bailey is the better all around player as well. Plays PP and PK when needed. However, I don’t think Bailey would be on the team since Trotz took over if he didnt do his job consistently. I think Bailey is a pretty consistent player as far as what his game is and what to expect. I guess that’s where Me and a lot of people on here will disagree. One thing for sure he’s been pretty consistent in the POs the last few years.

Eberle I'd agree is. It's not that he's not as good as any of the others, it's just that you can clearly describe his value and his role...he's a shooter, pure and simple. Not an elite 35-40 goal scorer, but a solid 25-ish goal scorer. As far as replacing him, you have two other options waiting in the wings...Palmieri could be a veteran replacement; Wahlstrom a younger one. Around the league there are many better and worse versions of him. I don't think it's so easy to just conjure up a really good one, but at least you know what you're looking for.

Bailey, though...how do you really describe him as a player? He has a wide-ranging skill set, but on any given night, you never know which one of those skills will be on display. He can make a few nice offensive plays one game, and then the offense disappears and he's making some decent transition plays. Then that goes away and he's doing something else. Just my opinion, but I think he's the hardest of all those players to replace not because he's a spectacular hockey player, but because you never really know what he's going to do in a given game. He's versatile, but inconsistently versatile, if that makes any sense.
- UIF

Bailey is the better overall player than Eberle no question. Bailey has the talent to be a 70 point player every year. Bailey is incredibly frustrating in terms of effort though. The Isles having a lot of pass first forwards has not helped as well.

It does indeed. And there is that Trotz-Ovi connection. But I suspect the Caps sign him long-term, so that he can finish his career with them.
- JohnScammo

I mean if he wanted to win another cup he could sign for a year and give it a shot with Trotz and the Islanders. I don’t think he would have any trouble signing a new contract with another team after that unless his production/game really decrease or he gets injured.

Even with the flat cap? That’s going to limit the field of teams that can sign him.
- Cptmjl

Even with a flat cap. Young (only 26) #1D don’t oft hit the market. Someone will pay him, and pay him bigly.

Stefen Rosner
@stefen_rosner
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29m
#Isles will make an offer on UFA Gabriel Landeskog if he hits the open market is what I’m being told.
- niteislander

I should bloody well hope so.

I mean if he wanted to win another cup he could sign for a year and give it a shot with Trotz and the Islanders. I don’t think he would have any trouble signing a new contract with another team after that unless his production/game really decrease or he gets injured.
- nyisles7

Yeah, I guess it depends on how he views the Caps and their chances over the next few seasons. If he likes Laviolette and the front office, he likely stays. If not, then maybe the Isles have a shot. I haven't heard anything where he expressed dissatisfaction, have you?

I should bloody well hope so.
- Wildschwein

Almost have to think that they'd have to shed Eberle and Bailey to do that. Leddy's going to have to get replaced with an UFA, on top of re-signing Pelech/Sorokin/Beau/Cizikas

Almost have to think that they'd have to shed Eberle and Bailey to do that. Leddy's going to have to get replaced with an UFA, on top of re-signing Pelech/Sorokin/Beau/Cizikas
- eichiefs9

Landy seems like a real long shot if Isles have to lose both Eberle and Bailey.

Yeah, I guess it depends on how he views the Caps and their chances over the next few seasons. If he likes Laviolette and the front office, he likely stays. If not, then maybe the Isles have a shot. I haven't heard anything where he expressed dissatisfaction, have you?
- JohnScammo

No nothing negative but I’m thinking the Caps will want to sign him but I’m not so sure they are going to give him a long term deal imo. Their core is older now and there is a rebuild that needs to take place soon.

Landy seems like a real long shot if Isles have to lose both Eberle and Bailey.
- ses111

Not claiming that's the case, but Landy is going to get a big number from someone. Isles have a little bit over $12M in cap space, plus JB's $6M LTIR cushion.

Staple is predicting about $4M-ish for Beau, $5M-ish for Pelech (more if the term goes higher), and $3M-ish for Sorokin/Cizikas.

That's around $16M (assuming Pelech gets more than $5M, personally) out of about $18M that's available. Losing Eberle or Bailey would bring total available space to around $7M or so. Maybe buying out Komarov or Hickey would get them to the $8M it might take to be in the running for Landeskog. Makes things tight going forward but it seems like they are definitely comfortable, and doing well, staying tight to the cap ceiling

Yeah, I guess it depends on how he views the Caps and their chances over the next few seasons. If he likes Laviolette and the front office, he likely stays. If not, then maybe the Isles have a shot. I haven't heard anything where he expressed dissatisfaction, have you?
- JohnScammo

I’ve only heard the Caps are working on a deal to keep him and he wasn’t going anywhere. That was from NHL radio the other day, but God only know if that’s true.