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JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
Not claiming that's the case, but Landy is going to get a big number from someone. Isles have a little bit over $12M in cap space, plus JB's $6M LTIR cushion.

Staple is predicting about $4M-ish for Beau, $5M-ish for Pelech (more if the term goes higher), and $3M-ish for Sorokin/Cizikas.

That's around $16M (assuming Pelech gets more than $5M, personally) out of about $18M that's available. Losing Eberle or Bailey would bring total available space to around $7M or so. Maybe buying out Komarov or Hickey would get them to the $8M it might take to be in the running for Landeskog. Makes things tight going forward but it seems like they are definitely comfortable, and doing well, staying tight to the cap ceiling

- eichiefs9

https://fansided.com/2021...andeskog-expansion-draft/
This is germane to a question nite raised earlier today.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
No nothing negative but I’m thinking the Caps will want to sign him but I’m not so sure they are going to give him a long term deal imo. Their core is older now and there is a rebuild that needs to take place soon.
- nyisles7

It would just be weird to see Ovi in another jersey, wouldn’t it?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
I’ve only heard the Caps are working on a deal to keep him and he wasn’t going anywhere. That was from NHL radio the other day, but God only know if that’s true.
- Isleshockeyman

Here's a question: Who gets the bigger number? Ovi or Landy?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
Not claiming that's the case, but Landy is going to get a big number from someone. Isles have a little bit over $12M in cap space, plus JB's $6M LTIR cushion.

Staple is predicting about $4M-ish for Beau, $5M-ish for Pelech (more if the term goes higher), and $3M-ish for Sorokin/Cizikas.

That's around $16M (assuming Pelech gets more than $5M, personally) out of about $18M that's available. Losing Eberle or Bailey would bring total available space to around $7M or so. Maybe buying out Komarov or Hickey would get them to the $8M it might take to be in the running for Landeskog. Makes things tight going forward but it seems like they are definitely comfortable, and doing well, staying tight to the cap ceiling

- eichiefs9


Wonder if we see Palms re-signed and Parise joining Palms with JGP on the 3rd line and Wally for the 1st? Might come down to this with the Cap situation. If this is the case hopefully it's enough to get the Isles over the top. I'm just no sure though?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
It would just be weird to see Ovi in another jersey, wouldn’t it?
- Isleshockeyman

Definitely. I think he re-signs with the Caps. But a man can dream...
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
Here's a question: Who gets the bigger number? Ovi or Landy?
- JohnScammo

I’m going to say Landy because if Colorado doesn’t circle back and sign him, he’s going after the big money. Ovi, I think, would give a discount to the Caps to resign.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
https://fansided.com/2021/07/18/seattle-kraken-sign-gabriel-landeskog-expansion-draft/
This is germane to a question nite raised earlier today.

- JohnScammo

They can certainly try and sign him, but I'm not so sure he's going to want to go from one of the best teams in the NHL to an expansion team. Of course it depends what they're offering...if they throw out some ridiculous $10M x 8yr deal maybe that's enough to sway him.

But that list of teams he'd allegedly be interested in signing with certainly didn't include the Kraken. It's all conjecture obviously, but I think he'd have to get one hell of a massive offer from Seattle to end up there.

I still think he stays in COL at the end of the day though.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
Definitely. I think he re-signs with the Caps. But a man can dream...
- JohnScammo

If your gonna dream, throw Landy in as well.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
I’m going to say Landy because if Colorado doesn’t circle back and sign him, he’s going after the big money. Ovi, I think, would give a discount to the Caps to resign.
- Isleshockeyman


Just the age alone have to think Landy. Hard to see Ovi leaving the Caps.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
Just the age alone have to think Landy. Hard to see Ovi leaving the Caps.
- ses111

Agreed
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:43 PM ET
They can certainly try and sign him, but I'm not so sure he's going to want to go from one of the best teams in the NHL to an expansion team. Of course it depends what they're offering...if they throw out some ridiculous $10M x 8yr deal maybe that's enough to sway him.

But that list of teams he'd allegedly be interested in signing with certainly didn't include the Kraken. It's all conjecture obviously, but I think he'd have to get one hell of a massive offer from Seattle to end up there.

I still think he stays in COL at the end of the day though.

- eichiefs9


Probably.

Which is fine. Seems to me that the Islanders will still be a legit Cup threat if they sign their RFAs, and add competent players like Palmieri, Saad/McGinn/Tatar and Oleksiak.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:43 PM ET
If your gonna dream, throw Landy in as well.
- Isleshockeyman




Hard to not want a big name forward after the Tampa loss and two shutouts.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
https://fansided.com/2021/07/18/seattle-kraken-sign-gabriel-landeskog-expansion-draft/
This is germane to a question nite raised earlier today.

- JohnScammo


Didn't know that.. ty (still doesn't make a ton on sense to me unless they really didn;t like anyone else the Avs left available but I didn't realize they had a window to talk to him.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:45 PM ET
Almost have to think that they'd have to shed Eberle and Bailey to do that. Leddy's going to have to get replaced with an UFA, on top of re-signing Pelech/Sorokin/Beau/Cizikas
- eichiefs9

Yep. What do you think Landeskog will get?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:46 PM ET


Hard to not want a big name forward after the Tampa loss and two shutouts.

- ses111


Honest question Ses. If Lee had been Barzal’s LW in the Tampa series, do you think the outcome would’ve been different?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
It would just be weird to see Ovi in another jersey, wouldn’t it?
- Isleshockeyman

I could get used to it real quick if it were an islanders jersey
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
They can certainly try and sign him, but I'm not so sure he's going to want to go from one of the best teams in the NHL to an expansion team. Of course it depends what they're offering...if they throw out some ridiculous $10M x 8yr deal maybe that's enough to sway him.

But that list of teams he'd allegedly be interested in signing with certainly didn't include the Kraken. It's all conjecture obviously, but I think he'd have to get one hell of a massive offer from Seattle to end up there.

I still think he stays in COL at the end of the day though.

- eichiefs9

Really? I have a feeling he’s going to be an Islander
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
Honest question Ses. If Lee had been Barzal’s LW in the Tampa series, do you think the outcome would’ve been different?
- Wildschwein


Very interesting question schwein and I though about it a lot. It certainly would have helped but Isles did lose with Lee two years ago. I'm thinking Isles still lose and I guess No Palms if Lee does not get hurt. Isles have enough to give Tampa fits but winning is another story and so far Isles are 0-2. Outside of adding another impact forward, can Barry adjust the system a little to get more offense against Tampa? Tampa is Lou and Barry's white whale right now. All of Lou's moves the last few days tells me he thinks Isles need more.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 19 @ 2:06 PM ET
Very interesting question schwein and I though about it a lot. It certainly would have helped but Isles did lose with Lee two years ago. I'm thinking Isles still lose and I guess No Palms if Lee does not get hurt. Isles have enough to give Tampa fits but winning is another story and so far Isles are 0-2. Outside of adding another impact forward, can Barry adjust the system a little to get more offense against Tampa? Tampa is Lou and Barry's white whale right now. All of Lou's moves the last few days tells me he thinks Isles need more.
- ses111

The good news for the Islanders and the rest of the League is that Tampa is going to lose a pretty good player to Seattle.......likely Gourde or Palat, I'm guessing. And I'm not sure that that takes care of their cap problems. So they likely won't be as good next season.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
Very interesting question schwein and I though about it a lot. It certainly would have helped but Isles did lose with Lee two years ago. I'm thinking Isles still lose and I guess No Palms if Lee does not get hurt. Isles have enough to give Tampa fits but winning is another story and so far Isles are 0-2. Outside of adding another impact forward, can Barry adjust the system a little to get more offense against Tampa? Tampa is Lou and Barry's white whale right now. All of Lou's moves the last few days tells me he thinks Isles need more.
- ses111

With the moves Lou is making, my guess is he already has something close to being done. I could be very wrong but why make the movs he did without something being in place or close to it. I don’t think anyone is going to make trades just to be ~14m under the cap.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 19 @ 2:14 PM ET
It would just be weird to see Ovi in another jersey, wouldn’t it?
- Isleshockeyman



He stranger what’s up. Hope all is well with the new digs and job.
Yes it would be 100%. Although did you ever think Chara would wear any other jersey than the B’s?
Fact Gretzky ( now Ladd ) was traded always makes me think that anything’s possible.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
The good news for the Islanders and the rest of the League is that Tampa is going to lose a pretty good player to Seattle.......likely Gourde or Palat, I'm guessing. And I'm not sure that that takes care of their cap problems. So they likely won't be as good next season.
- JohnScammo

They may not be as good but still have plenty of good players.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 19 @ 2:18 PM ET
New blog
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 19 @ 2:19 PM ET
With the moves Lou is making, my guess is he already has something close to being done. I could be very wrong but why make the movs he did without something being in place or close to it. I don’t think anyone is going to make trades just to be ~14m under the cap.
- Isleshockeyman



100% agree.
Knowing Lou and Pelligrini they have numbers in place to make the cap work with the FA’s , RFA’s they want to sign and also ones they are looking to bring into the team.
They are waiting for the Expansion Draft and who’s taken ( unless they have a side deal ) and then the contracts will start getting finalized and announced.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 2:25 PM ET
He stranger what’s up. Hope all is well with the new digs and job.
Yes it would be 100%. Although did you ever think Chara would wear any other jersey than the B’s?
Fact Gretzky ( now Ladd ) was traded always makes me think that anything’s possible.

- nyisles7

Things are going ok. Still working the house. New carpet, paint, concrete patio, etc. Job is great. Thanks for asking.
With the Gretzky context, yes, anything is possible.
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