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mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
If Danault leaves we really should sign Statsny for 2 years he fits 2 areas: strong 2 way centre and Quebecois. Will give time for the kids to develop.

Don’t necessarily think we should intentionally tank for next season but let the kids play more but not on Romanov off side

- habs88888

So Quebecois that he renounced the province to play for Team USA.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
citrus?
- kicksave856

Oui
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
Oui
- mr.peanut

so refreshing. so energizing.
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
So Quebecois that he renounced the province to play for Team USA.
- mr.peanut


Doesn’t matter this is to shut the fans up in MTL if he wants to come he may not want to
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Drouin/Weber/Price liberate about 24millions

Well let’s say Primeau replace Price and does good (Price was awful in season).
Hamilton sign a 8m/6years contract and replace Weber. (dream)

Wennberg is signed and replace 3rd line C
Habs resign Lek/KK/Armia/Perry

Habs trade for a big LW contract like Kane or Tkachuk. Habs won’t be that awful.

Those are just names sent. But I’m pretty sure Bergevin will trade for 1 or 2 assets cause each summer he does something and he’s not a huge UFA hunter usely

- MONSTERSofMETALZ


Disagree here. He usually swings for pretty much all the big names who are ok with playing in Montreal and he always gets shifted. With all the extra money maybe he has a better chance this year but I'm not a fan of those crazy contracts.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Starting to think that's the smart move. Clear the decks now and make a strategy for 22/23
- Takemedrunkimhome

potentially unloading Price and Weber's contacts (and Drouin)....it's a major shift in the team structure. Might be more prudent to be conservative this year (and suck) and be ready to strike with cap space and the TDL and next summer.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
so refreshing. so energizing.
- kicksave856

I feel so alive
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
If Danault leaves we really should sign Statsny for 2 years he fits 2 areas: strong 2 way centre and Quebecois. Will give time for the kids to develop.

Don’t necessarily think we should intentionally tank for next season but let the kids play more but not on Romanov off side. Not sure how much Fleury is in our future plans but we need also a 3rd pair RHD and coz 1st pair RHD

- habs88888

I don't ever think a team should tank. Ever. But there's a difference between tanking and sacrificing futures and cap space to "go for it" (which in this case is try to scrape into the playoffs)
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
Doesn’t matter this is to shut the fans up in MTL if he wants to come he may not want to
- habs88888

he's also finished
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
Disagree here. He usually swings for pretty much all the big names who are ok with playing in Montreal and he always gets shifted. With all the extra money maybe he has a better chance this year but I'm not a fan of those crazy contracts.
- Not_Yan

very few big UFA's make a major impact on their new team, teams mostly put themselves in trouble at this time of year
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
potentially unloading Price and Weber's contacts (and Drouin)....it's a major shift in the team structure. Might be more prudent to be conservative this year (and suck) and be ready to strike with cap space and the TDL and next summer.
- Symba007

I'm starting to agree this could be a prudent move to get to the next wave of Habs. May even get somebody to pay obscene amounts for Chiarot at the TDL
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
So Quebecois that he renounced the province to play for Team USA.
- mr.peanut

Yeah the Quebecois part seemed forced
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
I don't ever think a team should tank. Ever. But there's a difference between tanking and sacrificing futures and cap space to "go for it" (which in this case is try to scrape into the playoffs)
- Takemedrunkimhome


I have thought about the scenario you just said but that likely means playing the kids primarily and will also likely mean no playoffs for the next 2-3 years at least
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
Yeah the Quebecois part seemed forced
- Takemedrunkimhome

Especially if you consider that his Czech dad stopped playing in Quebec when Paul was 4
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jul 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
So you assume Primeau can replace Price and so it's cool to spend a poop ton of cap space on the short term?

Trade for Tkachuk? Yeah that'll be cheap. Hamilton likely gets 7 years (or 8 if Seattle) and a higher aav and I'd bet a large sum has no interest in Montreal - Tavares style, Mtl doesn't even get invited to the table. Wennberg in no way replaces Danault. Kane is a cancer.

Fixing this team in the short term without hurting the long term isn't easy at all

- Takemedrunkimhome


Nothing will be cheap. Nothing will be easy for Bergy. But Habs made it to the finale and they can’t just let it go. Bergevin will make moves and sign someone else. Danault is NOT replaceable but you can’t just say “we’ll give it up, Danault is gone”. I think Evans does a pretty good job, Lek, Armia, Suzuki, Toff can PK. Anyway. We will do fine.
And yes, you spend the cap if you can. This team still has 3 good D (make it 4 with a trade or sign). And we only lost Danault since Tatar & Drouin weren’t there in playoff.

We are far from over if good moves are made.
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jul 19 @ 9:52 AM ET
Disagree here. He usually swings for pretty much all the big names who are ok with playing in Montreal and he always gets shifted. With all the extra money maybe he has a better chance this year but I'm not a fan of those crazy contracts.
- Not_Yan


Well if big names don’t wanna come you can’t do it that way. Still, Habs traded for Allen, Edmundson and Anderson which were big part of this season/playoff. Could sign Toffoli & Perry.

Pretty sure he can do it again this year
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:53 AM ET
I have thought about the scenario you just said but that likely means playing the kids primarily and will also likely mean no playoffs for the next 2-3 years at least
- habs88888

Be honest with yourself. Look at the roster and injuries and everything. Look at the division the Habs are going back to. How many risky moves would it take just to have a chance at the playoffs these next couple years? Weber retiring may be the catalyst needed to do what is needed to get to the next competitive group the fastest.

Suzuki needs to be paid next year. Caufield the year after. Taking on big risky contracts now to try and salvage something could impact flexibility when they need it.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:53 AM ET
Especially if you consider that his Czech dad stopped playing in Quebec when Paul was 4
- mr.peanut

And that's all before the clear desperation of the move is discussed
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:54 AM ET
Especially if you consider that his Czech dad stopped playing in Quebec when Paul was 4
- mr.peanut

And that's all before the clear desperation of the move is discussed
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:54 AM ET
Especially if you consider that his Czech dad stopped playing in Quebec when Paul was 4
- mr.peanut

And that's all before the clear desperation of the move is discussed
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:55 AM ET
And that's all before the clear desperation of the move is discussed
- Takemedrunkimhome


You really want to emphasize that point bro
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 19 @ 9:56 AM ET
I feel so alive
- mr.peanut

i feel good that you feel good.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:57 AM ET
Nothing will be cheap. Nothing will be easy for Bergy. But Habs made it to the finale and they can’t just let it go. Bergevin will make moves and sign someone else. Danault is NOT replaceable but you can’t just say “we’ll give it up, Danault is gone”. I think Evans does a pretty good job, Lek, Armia, Suzuki, Toff can PK. Anyway. We will do fine.
And yes, you spend the cap if you can. This team still has 3 good D (make it 4 with a trade or sign). And we only lost Danault since Tatar & Drouin weren’t there in playoff.

We are far from over if good moves are made.

- MONSTERSofMETALZ

Stopped reading after this. If that has any play in your reasoning than your reasoning is incredibly flawed. New season....sober up and move on
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:58 AM ET
Be honest with yourself. Look at the roster and injuries and everything. Look at the division the Habs are going back to. How many risky moves would it take just to have a chance at the playoffs these next couple years? Weber retiring may be the catalyst needed to do what is needed to get to the next competitive group the fastest.

Suzuki needs to be paid next year. Caufield the year after. Taking on big risky contracts now to try and salvage something could impact flexibility when they need it.

- Takemedrunkimhome


I am being honest, as long as it’s calculated risk that’s ok. But not making the playoffs again in the next 2-3 years means not being in the dance for 8 of last 10 years a few years from now?

They have room to take on one bad contract but not more than that I think
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 19 @ 9:58 AM ET
You really want to emphasize that point bro
- habs88888

This website I swear...
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