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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:26 AM ET
Still would like to see Nichushkin get picked up on the cheap. He is only 26 and would be a great fit with Podz and Richardinson on the 3rd line.
- carsonagenic


Could happen ? They said they wanted to fix the bottom 6 .
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:27 AM ET


So the toronto video already leaked from cell phone footage at the Seattle Fish Market

Seattle is taking Kerfoot
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:30 AM ET
Probably a quarter of the kids being drafted will have done what he did.
- JAKE VIRTANEN

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:32 AM ET
that's pretty much it. and it's a common refrain.
- RealityChecker

Yup.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:33 AM ET
Probably a quarter of the kids being drafted will have done what he did.
- manvanfan

Doesn't make it right.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 20 @ 11:34 AM ET
Could happen ? They said they wanted to fix the bottom 6 .
- VANTEL

If Col needs to shed salary, which they do, a player like Jasek with no NHL pay or roster spot would be perfect for them.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 20 @ 11:34 AM ET
Probably a quarter of the kids being drafted will have done what he did.
- manvanfan

That might be a bit of an exaggeration.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 20 @ 11:35 AM ET
That doesn't mean a team can't bring him to camp and sign him.
- manvanfan

Can a team circumvent the draft like that? Any draft eligible player can go to camp, but can't be signed. Canucks have brought in players thought to be ineligible, but the league found they were and didn't let sign. Some GMs are also very bitter about things and could spend a 7th to draft him in 2 years and prevent a team from signing him as an undrafted player.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:35 AM ET
Doesn't make it right.
- Marwood

Obviously.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:36 AM ET
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Interesting that both ESPN NHL writers
@wyshynski
and
@emilymkaplan
had the #SeaKraken taking Jonah Gadjovich from the #Canucks. Not the young player most of us would expect and just like Kole Lind you wonder if not being waiver exempt will matter to Seattle.

- VANTEL

stocking their AHL team as well. it kinda makes sense that they'll take some flyers on guys who they'll send down and see if any become late bloomers. at worst, they get some guys who can play in the AHL and come up for sporadic periods for injury relief.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:37 AM ET
If Col needs to shed salary, which they do, a player like Jasek with no NHL pay or roster spot would be perfect for them.
- carsonagenic


I am not sure what the asking price would be . Freidman reported that Avs may have one last offer to Landy before he hits free agency but believes Landy wants 60 mil and Avs wont match that.
Also seen Makar is looking for 8-10 mil per.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:37 AM ET
Still would like to see Nichushkin get picked up on the cheap. He is only 26 and would be a great fit with Podz and Richardinson on the 3rd line.
- carsonagenic

Yes
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:38 AM ET
Can a team circumvent the draft like that? Any draft eligible player can go to camp, but can't be signed. Canucks have brought in players thought to be ineligible, but the league found they were and didn't let sign. Some GMs are also very bitter about things and could spend a 7th to draft him in 2 years and prevent a team from signing him as an undrafted player.
- Retinalz

Please see case study

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/yegor-zamula

Draft eligible in 2018. Went undrafted and signed to a contract for the 18-19 season by the Philadelphia Flyers.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:39 AM ET
stocking their AHL team as well. it kinda makes sense that they'll take some flyers on guys who they'll send down and see if any become late bloomers. at worst, they get some guys who can play in the AHL and come up for sporadic periods for injury relief.
- RealityChecker

I believe there is only 1 single player who doesn't need waivers. Minny goalie Kaapo K.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jul 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
I am not sure what the asking price would be . Freidman reported that Avs may have one last offer to Landy before he hits free agency but believes Landy wants 60 mil and Avs wont match that.
Also seen Makar is looking for 8-10 mil per.

- VANTEL

That's a poop ton of cap required plus Mac's deal coming up as well. Low ball em JB....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:43 AM ET
Some interesting stuff floating out there. Danault may not be returning to the Habs . They may lose Price . Weber on LTIR . I bet they would OS Petey. Bergevin is a wildman

Jones with heavy connection to Chi

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:44 AM ET
I believe there is only 1 single player who doesn't need waivers. Minny goalie Kaapo K.
- manvanfan

i just meant that not all the players that they pick will be for the purpose of making seattle off the hop.

the players they pick might not be all waiver exempt, but i'd be pretty sure that most if not all will be able to slide down to the A at the beginning of the season when every team is trying to round out their rosters.

my point is that i could see them picking players who are older "prospects" as a way of making a competitive farm team with the ability to bring up these guys for spot relief. they might not be good enough to play the full 82 with the big club but are good enough to be productive in the AHL while being capable of playing a few games/spot duty with the big club.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 20 @ 11:44 AM ET
Seattle could have one of the better goalie tandems in the league, and it's only going to cost them like 5 mil

Dreidger, Desmith, Kahkonen, Vanecek
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:44 AM ET
I believe there is only 1 single player who doesn't need waivers. Minny goalie Kaapo K.
- manvanfan


Promising young goalie too
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:46 AM ET
That's a poop ton of cap required plus Mac's deal coming up as well. Low ball em JB....
- carsonagenic


I think Jim timed most of this stuff pretty well . I still think Canucks are one year early on the young centers like Focht and Cosmar and one year early also on Woo , but the timing is close for the old out and the new in.

There are some good deals to be had but I still think Benning is accurate with one more year needed.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
Seattle could have one of the better goalie tandems in the league, and it's only going to cost them like 5 mil

Dreidger, Desmith, Kahkonen, Vanecek

- NorthNuck

that's smart cap management.

allows them to save cap for the bottom 6 players.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
Some interesting stuff floating out there. Danault may not be returning to the Habs . They may lose Price . Weber on LTIR . I bet they would OS Petey. Bergevin is a wildman

Jones with heavy connection to Chi

- VANTEL

Benning would match
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 20 @ 11:48 AM ET
i just meant that not all the players that they pick will be for the purpose of making seattle off the hop.

the players they pick might not be all waiver exempt, but i'd be pretty sure that most if not all will be able to slide down to the A at the beginning of the season when every team is trying to round out their rosters.

my point is that i could see them picking players who are older "prospects" as a way of making a competitive farm team with the ability to bring up these guys for spot relief. they might not be good enough to play the full 82 with the big club but are good enough to be productive in the AHL while being capable of playing a few games/spot duty with the big club.

- RealityChecker

There are just so many factors
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:49 AM ET
Benning would match
- Nucker101

wiesbrod and benning would probably match 3 hours after the deadline expired.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 20 @ 11:50 AM ET
There are just so many factors
- manvanfan

and this is why we can spend hours/days/weeks/years on this stuff.
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