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JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
That it was a dumb idea?
- Feds91Stammer



Don't be a complete Richard.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
NICE


Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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29s
Hearing #NYR have made significant progress with newly acquired forward Barclay Goodrow.

Not finalized. Expectation is Goodrow will be a Blueshirt once the signing moratorium is lifted with a 6-year deal in $3.6m AAV range.
@DFOHockey

- jimbro83

Wait you actually like this?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
NICE


Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
·
29s
Hearing #NYR have made significant progress with newly acquired forward Barclay Goodrow.

Not finalized. Expectation is Goodrow will be a Blueshirt once the signing moratorium is lifted with a 6-year deal in $3.6m AAV range.
@DFOHockey

- jimbro83

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
Don't be a complete Richard.
- JRR1285

I was just joking. I actually like when someone can acknowledge when something is potentially a bad idea.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
I was just joking. I actually like when someone can acknowledge when something is potentially a bad idea.
- Feds91Stammer





God I hate you.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
Wait you actually like this?
- Feds91Stammer


I'm fine with it after seeing speculation he was gonna get 4.5 mil a year thats for sure


JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:42 PM ET

- eichiefs9



Hey, it's not Ladd bad.

(How the (frank) did you bumholes unload that Ladd contract?)
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:42 PM ET
I'm fine with it after seeing speculation he was gonna get 4.5 mil a year thats for sure
- jimbro83

I just don’t see it. I’d give him 3 x 2m max.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
Hey, it's not Ladd bad.

(How the (frank) did you bumholes unload that Ladd contract?)

- JRR1285

Actual money owed over the rest of the deal is minimal. He was due a $3M bonus and $1M salary over the last two years of the deal and I think I saw the Isles had already paid $1M of his bonus for this year. So he's only due $7M over the remainder of the deal and Arizona desperately needed draft picks and had to get to the cap floor.

I like Goodrow as a player but that AAV is about $1M high for my taste, if not more. Normally I'd crap on the term, but I think the exact same thing is going to happen with Cizikas.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
I just don’t see it. I’d give him 3 x 2m max.
- Feds91Stammer



I somewhat agree, I don't see how his salary goes up that much with the current cap constraints. But I guess if the Rangers are going to publicly state what they are looking for and a player knows they fit the bill they can bend the Rangers over a barrel a little.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
I just don’t see it. I’d give him 3 x 2m max.
- Feds91Stammer


be interesting to see the breakdown how the last two-three years are set up
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
I hope he's going be on the third line for that contract
https://twitter.com/frank...tatus/1417176647493726214
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
Actual money owed over the rest of the deal is minimal. He was due a $3M bonus and $1M salary over the last two years of the deal and I think I saw the Isles had already paid $1M of his bonus for this year. So he's only due $7M over the remainder of the deal and Arizona desperately needed draft picks and had to get to the cap floor.

I like Goodrow as a player but that AAV is about $1M high for my taste, if not more. Normally I'd crap on the term, but I think the exact same thing is going to happen with Cizikas.

- eichiefs9

@EvolvingWild model had four years at $3.15 mil. If go six, price expected to rise slightly. Market clearly will bear this given rumors of six years. Hope is cap rises enough at back end so smaller % of the overall. Not ideal but not unexpected. If four years, $4.5 mil or so
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 19 @ 1:48 PM ET
Jimbo Florida pick to be posted between 3-4 pm
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
I somewhat agree, I don't see how his salary goes up that much with the current cap constraints. But I guess if the Rangers are going to publicly state what they are looking for and a player knows they fit the bill they can bend the Rangers over a barrel a little.
- JRR1285

I just think he’s a solid 4th liner that benefitted from playing with Gourde and Coleman.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:50 PM ET
@EvolvingWild model had four years at $3.15 mil. If go six, price expected to rise slightly. Market clearly will bear this given rumors of six years. Hope is cap rises enough at back end so smaller % of the overall. Not ideal but not unexpected. If four years, $4.5 mil or so
- airjan23

Is their model based on actual on ice value or perceived value?
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 19 @ 1:52 PM ET
Is their model based on actual on ice value or perceived value?
- Feds91Stammer

Both and they are usually fairly spot on
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:52 PM ET
I just think he’s a solid 4th liner that benefitted from playing with Gourde and Coleman.
- Feds91Stammer



Well now he might get the chance to benefit from playing with the likes of Panarin etc.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:53 PM ET
Both and they are usually fairly spot on
- airjan23



It does seem a little high but hopefully it looks better on the backend. Either way he seems like the right kind of guy to have around.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:53 PM ET
Well now he might get the chance to benefit from playing with the likes of Panarin etc.
- JRR1285

No it’s Goodrow not Gaudreau.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 19 @ 1:54 PM ET
This way he never gets to put on a sweater for another team during an actual game.

League minimum, he already got his money.

- JRR1285

Exactly
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:54 PM ET
It does seem a little high but hopefully it looks better on the backend. Either way he seems like the right kind of guy to have around.
- JRR1285

It seems like one of those deals that could be brutal by year 3 or 4.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 19 @ 1:55 PM ET
That it was a dumb idea?
- Feds91Stammer

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:56 PM ET
No it’s Goodrow not Gaudreau.
- Feds91Stammer



Yeah but some are theorizing he could be an energy/puck retrieval guy higher up in the lineup. I don't know how to feel about that but we'll see what happens. A sort of Jesper Fast 2.0.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 19 @ 1:57 PM ET
Yeah but some are theorizing he could be an energy/puck retrieval guy higher up in the lineup. I don't know how to feel about that but we'll see what happens. A sort of Jesper Fast 2.0.
- JRR1285

And you know how much i wanted Fast to remain, especially at $2.25 mil per year
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