The point is Goodrow is a player NYR need. Did they pay a bit over on $/term?....yes. Does every team in NHL pay more for pieces that they need? Yes.
- rrentz

In the long term i think it will work itself out when the cap freeze ends

since 2016-2017:

Justin Abdelkader
259 GP, 26 Goals, 78 Points

Barclay Goodrow
257 GP, 28 Goals, 78 Points
- BINGO!

Its not a good contract, but the player fits a piece to the puzzle they need. In vacuum he does not have as much skill as Gauthier. The Rangers really need a player like Goodrow tho

Point I was trying to make is… why are we comparing to an irrelevant hockey player:
- aecliptic

You're so close to the point you can practically taste it.

Point I was trying to make is… why are we comparing to an irrelevant hockey player:
- aecliptic

Since he doesn’t score goals he isn’t relevant I guess

Its not a good contract, but the player fits a piece to the puzzle they need. In vacuum he does not have as much skill as Gauthier. The Rangers really need a player like Goodrow tho
- nyrangers2

I agree they could use a guy *like* Goodrow, but they went and got him in the most expensive way possible.

I also worry they're confusing him with Coleman, who is a much better and more impactful player.

Barclay Goodrow and Jordan Martinook are the same guy.

I agree they could use a guy *like* Goodrow, but they went and got him in the most expensive way possible.

I also worry they're confusing him with Coleman, who is a much better and more impactful player.

Barclay Goodrow and Jordan Martinook are the same guy.
- BINGO!

Nah. Martinook is cooler.

The point is Goodrow is a player NYR need. Did they pay a bit over on $/term?....yes. Does every team in NHL pay more for pieces that they need? Yes.
- rrentz

Yep end of the day rangers won’t care they paid him a million more per year than is worth if he is helping the team win. And I can care less either

Fun fact: In 2013 NHL draft, Pavel Buchnevich was drafted number 75 in the third round. Of the 211 players drafted in that year, only 3 players: Jake Guentzal at number 77 in the third round, Aleksander Barkov at number 2 overall and Nate MacKinnon at number 1 overall, have averaged more points per game than Buchnevich.

In the long term i think it will work itself out when the cap freeze ends
- aecliptic

Didn't Cisikas get 5 m per on his last contract?

U know how I know it’s a good signing? Bc I’ve never seen so many fans from other teams tell us how bad it is.

Didn't Cisikas get 5 m per on his last contract?
- rrentz

I agree they could use a guy *like* Goodrow, but they went and got him in the most expensive way possible.

I also worry they're confusing him with Coleman, who is a much better and more impactful player.

Barclay Goodrow and Jordan Martinook are the same guy.
- BINGO!

They could have found a similar player potentially for $950k-$2m but wanted the sure thing. Ny always over pays. I’ll enjoy him while he here. Hopefully he makes an impact

Despite that rumored deal the past weekend of Buch. to Vancouver for their captain in center Bo Horvat not occurring, Drury will be active this week once the Exp. Draft Trade/Waiver & Player Signing Freeze gets lifted Thursday.

Simultaneously came reports of multi teams interested in acquiring Strome, including the Senators rumored to be offering RW Connor Brown ($3.6M annual cap hit for each of the next two seasons) in some size deal.

But in addition to Drury's words today depicting his shopping of Buch rather than pay up bigger for his earnings entitled to; along with that initial word (unless changed) of a few weeks back in Strome not being wanted by the Sabres as the key player piece in any trade for Eichel, Drury is searching for another top center, as well as a veteran LH shooting d'man through means of dangling if necessary in combination, a package including his 1st Rounder & his #3 top defensive prospect in Matthew Robertson along with other pieces pending for who, & the size of the trade. Those extra pieces in a major size deal or two could still include in part of key, either or both in Buch and Strome if not dealt yet. Why not negotiate harder first with Buch before dealing him?

With Drury's acquired #1 offseason target in Goodrow & his new contract rumored dollars & term, the Rangers can't afford Eichel's $10M since also having current multi players due new contracts now, & by next Summer like Zib. for one. In addition, Dallas's $8.45M AAV/8year signing extension of Heiskanen this past weekend has set the range bar expected to re-sign before next Summer our recent Norris Trophy winner in Fox.

- eichiefs9

What was his last contract $/yrs?

What was his last contract $/yrs?
- rrentz

5 years @ $3.35M

5 years @ $3.35M
- TC88

Ok, so I was a bit off, but my point remains . NYR looks at Goodrow ,like the Isles look(ed) at Cizikas.

The contract reminds me a bit of Benoit Pouliot which is what worries me. Pouliot was on a very good 3rd line with Zucc and Brass and played well through the playoffs into the cup final. Then he signed a 5 year $4M deal with Edmonton that he was bought out of after 3 years.

Goodrow is a good player but the thing about good/great teams is that all of the players look really good. I can't name one guy on Tampa at this point that I'd be down on. So you are buying guys at their peak.

I'm hoping he lives up to the deal, and at $3.6 if he doesn't it isn't the end of the world but it was definitely something I wanted to avoid and would've preferred going in a different direction in trying to find the "next" Goodrow instead of paying for what he did the past two years.

5 years @ $3.35M
- TC88

In addition, I don't understand the reasons why various sources were making it as if it were "a give me" that he would sign with the Rangers if becoming a free agent had they went his route for toughness, grit, etc., when in contrast, Czikas had stated during the regular season he preferred first to remain an Isle, despite knowing they had their own cap issues of which included then Ladd's remaining contract.

The Rangers went a similar route in attempt to sign Matt Martin a few off seasons ago who turned them down.

The contract reminds me a bit of Benoit Pouliot which is what worries me. Pouliot was on a very good 3rd line with Zucc and Brass and played well through the playoffs into the cup final. Then he signed a 5 year $4M deal with Edmonton that he was bought out of after 3 years.

Goodrow is a good player but the thing about good/great teams is that all of the players look really good. I can't name one guy on Tampa at this point that I'd be down on. So you are buying guys at their peak.

I'm hoping he lives up to the deal, and at $3.6 if he doesn't it isn't the end of the world but it was definitely something I wanted to avoid and would've preferred going in a different direction in trying to find the "next" Goodrow instead of paying for what he did the past two years.
- SkjeiStadium

Unfortunately , guys are paid on past performance, and like ya said, some guys just don't live up to the new contracts. Fingers crossed

Didn't Cisikas get 5 m per on his last contract?
- rrentz

Pre-COVID contract. They were thinking the same thing.

Unfortunately , guys are paid on past performance, and like ya said, some guys just don't live up to the new contracts. Fingers crossed
- rrentz

Agreed. If the deal is real then I'm rooting like hell for him and I really do believe he will have a positive impact on the team. The question is whether he's worth the contract which like you said all we can do is hope.

The issue to me more so is the term because if we're in a position in 3 years where we need to buy him out to pay some of these younger guys, the buyout will look much worse than if we got him at 4 years. I'd imagine if they could have got him for less they would have though...

Agreed. If the deal is real then I'm rooting like hell for him and I really do believe he will have a positive impact on the team. The question is whether he's worth the contract which like you said all we can do is hope.

The issue to me more so is the term because if we're in a position in 3 years where we need to buy him out to pay some of these younger guys, the buyout will look much worse than if we got him at 4 years. I'd imagine if they could have got him for less they would have though...
- SkjeiStadium

A guy like Goodrow wants stability in such an uncertain climate.

Another thing is, hes not a scorer… never was. So its not something were expecting out of him, however if he gets an uptick in points because of jumping around the lineup well great. I dont think there will ever be an issue as far as his giving 120% on the ice.

Agreed. If the deal is real then I'm rooting like hell for him and I really do believe he will have a positive impact on the team. The question is whether he's worth the contract which like you said all we can do is hope.

The issue to me more so is the term because if we're in a position in 3 years where we need to buy him out to pay some of these younger guys, the buyout will look much worse than if we got him at 4 years. I'd imagine if they could have got him for less they would have though...
- SkjeiStadium

Ehh, his contract won't require a buy out.

A guy like Goodrow wants stability in such an uncertain climate.

Another thing is, hes not a scorer… never was. So its not something were expecting out of him, however if he gets an uptick in points because of jumping around the lineup well great. I dont think there will ever be an issue as far as his giving 120% on the ice.
- aecliptic

Unless he starts dealing with some injuries. He plays a game that if he can't give 120% he's not going to be very effective. Obviously anybody can get hurt but those guys also tend to get banged up moreso than the skilled guys. He's also played 63 playoff games in the last 3 years.

If they make a bigger deal this summer like a move for eichel, they could be up against the cap in a couple of years and if Goodrow is wearing down that $3.6 can become an issue.

I hope I'm wrong and if he doesn't live up to it I won't be the guy that comes back saying I told you so because I'm rooting for him but this move just seems like a Glen Sather deal to me.

If Goodrow’s 3.6 contract is what does us in, then we were done anyway.