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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:56 AM ET
I'd love to take a stab at vlad t - he's russian (JB wants) and only 29 and could bounce back. Do 25% retained and send them a mid/late draft pick. Or send them JV as well.

Taresenko - EP - Hoglander
Pearson - Bo - BB

- canucksfan1944

Hoglander over Miller is bold
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 22 @ 11:57 AM ET

Thomas Drance
@ThomasDrance
Last time out the Golden Knights came out of the expansion process with 3 top-15 picks in the first round of the 2017 NHL Entry Draft.

Two of those picks were the centrepieces of deals for Pacioretty and Stone.

Where's the beef for the Kraken?


Carolina going to need to draft better than Vegas has.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 22 @ 11:58 AM ET
I'd love to take a stab at vlad t - he's russian (JB wants) and only 29 and could bounce back. Do 25% retained and send them a mid/late draft pick. Or send them JV as well.

Taresenko - EP - Hoglander
Pearson - Bo - BB

- canucksfan1944

I was exploring the idea of a trade revolving around Voracek and Schmidt.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jul 22 @ 12:03 PM ET
Carolina going to need to draft better than Vegas has.
- manvanfan

The Canes have drafted ok
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Jul 22 @ 12:03 PM ET
I was exploring the idea of a trade revolving around Voracek and Schmidt.
- manvanfan



True, could do JTM top line and Hog on third line with Pod - just want them to have a better distributing C.

I like taresenko more than voracek but that could work as well.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 22 @ 12:04 PM ET
I was exploring the idea of a trade revolving around Voracek and Schmidt.
- manvanfan

If we’re looking at taking on any old guy with a big contract, it has to be someone known for their skating like a Mike Gardner type, otherwise they’re just too slow.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 22 @ 12:10 PM ET


Will be nice for the first few years, but Holland knows he'll be on a beach or in a cabin somewhere so he won't have to worry about when it gets ugly

- Nucker101


Kyprios was on the radio yesterday saying - when GMs sign those big UFA deals, that seem a year or two too long, most times it's understood that the player will age out or be infective and won't be playing in the last few years. So it's to be expected that they will LTIR or retire early. He said it's basically a mutual understanding and they don't seem to worry about it too much....

sounds like a bunch of commie gobbledygook to me.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:12 PM ET
Excited to hear the trades today

Just heard Seattle traded tyler pitlick to Calgary for draft picks.

Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 22 @ 12:12 PM ET
I was exploring the idea of a trade revolving around Voracek and Schmidt.
- manvanfan


Schmidt for Debrusk would make sense
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
I think we probably have a bit of a different value on Holtby and those D men.
- manvanfan


Lauzon and Saucy are good bottom pairing,low end top 4 players and Holtby is a below average backup. Do you disagree?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 22 @ 12:18 PM ET
I'd love to take a stab at vlad t - he's russian (JB wants) and only 29 and could bounce back. Do 25% retained and send them a mid/late draft pick. Or send them JV as well.

Taresenko - EP - Hoglander
Pearson - Bo - BB

- canucksfan1944

As I mentioned, LE and OJ for VT no retention.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:19 PM ET
Lauzon and Saucy are good bottom pairing,low end top 4 players and Holtby is a below average backup. Do you disagree?
- belcherbd


I think Seattle will trade one or both of them based on how many defenseman they drafted
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:21 PM ET
I think Seattle will trade one or both of them based on how many defenseman they drafted
- Codes1087


I could see that, I just don't think Holtby can fetch that type of value.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
I could see that, I just don't think Holtby can fetch that type of value.
- belcherbd


I wouldn't think so either, but wasn't there a ton of reports saying he had a ton of interest from other teams? Every time I think their isn't value on a player, he gets traded for either peanuts compared to what I thought, or a team paid way more than I thought lol.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
Oil talking to Dougie Hamilton!!

e4


- LordHumungous


Beefing up
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
True, could do JTM top line and Hog on third line with Pod - just want them to have a better distributing C.

I like taresenko more than voracek but that could work as well.

- canucksfan1944

I like to stack the top 2 lines because they play the most, as long as the bottom 6 isn't getting caved in horribly nightly.

I think I prefer Voracek because he is healthier.

Vladimir Tarasenko GP110 G40 A52 PTS92 -1 .84 EVP61 PPP31 S%10.9 TOI 17:59

Jakub Voracek GP200 G41 A124 PTS165 -14 0.83 EVP122 PPP43 S%9.2 TOI 17:39

Production for the two players over the past 3 seasons. Pretty damn even

Boeser is right behind them sorted PPG.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:26 PM ET


Will be nice for the first few years, but Holland knows he'll be on a beach or in a cabin somewhere so he won't have to worry about when it gets ugly

- Nucker101


Next guys problem. We had one of those GMs
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 22 @ 12:26 PM ET
Schmidt for Debrusk would make sense
- Brooks_Light

If Boston adds a little something?
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 22 @ 12:29 PM ET
If Boston adds a little something?
- manvanfan


haha you'd hope right? But realistically JB wouldn't pull it off. Actually, straight up wouldn't be bad IMO, we get rid of mouthy McGee, get a decent 3rd line guy to play with D$ck and Pod?? and save a bit of cap.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 22 @ 12:32 PM ET
Lauzon and Saucy are good bottom pairing,low end top 4 players and Holtby is a below average backup. Do you disagree?
- belcherbd

Do you think a 3rd pairing defender is worth more than a back up goaltender?

David Riitch was traded for a 3rd round pick. Holtby is better than him. Jordie Benn was traded for a 6th.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 22 @ 12:38 PM ET
haha you'd hope right? But realistically JB wouldn't pull it off. Actually, straight up wouldn't be bad IMO, we get rid of mouthy McGee, get a decent 3rd line guy to play with D$ck and Pod?? and save a bit of cap.
- Brooks_Light

Malloy the scouting guy said scouts see things as

elite/generational player
top pairing defender
first line forward
top 4 defender
top 6 forward

Debrusk if he's a top 6 forward he's a number 6 like Pearson. Schmidt in the right circumstances is probably still a top 4 defender. Probably a 3/4. He did prop Edler up to make his numbers look way better last season.

factor in age and contract situation. I would feel like I need a 4th round pick because Debrusk has pretty well declined since he came into the league 4 years ago and Schmidt hasn't declined as much as Debrusk.

Wow I overthought this. my bad.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 22 @ 12:39 PM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...hes-slips-draft-rankings/

Chris Peter's on the draft. Never heard of him but he seems pretty smart, in depth on the prospects.

"You don't have to be fast to play fast"
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:40 PM ET
Larry Brooks
@NYP_Brooksie
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Have been told that Lou is looking to bring both Parise and Suter to the Island.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 22 @ 12:45 PM ET
Taylor Hall 4 year deal with the Bruins Close
Hearing just over $20M.

EK
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:48 PM ET
24 hours between when the trade freeze lifts and 1st round of the draft. It's going to be a wild 24 hours.
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