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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:07 AM ET
twitter is saying the 8th year depends on what the Leafs are looking for in terms of compensation.. If it's too high of an ask, the Oilers will wait until FA starts to sign him to a 7 yr deal
- PatC80


I know thats way too much to pay Hyman, but it really sucks losing him like this. I thought maybe for once a player would choose to take a bit less money to stay. Seriously this happens with so many other teams, but never the Leafs. Frustrating.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 22 @ 11:09 AM ET
I'll take a 5th round pick.

The Oilers are willing to pay us a draft pick in order to overpay Hyman.

The alternative is we receive nothing and the Oilers still overpay Hyman.

I'll take option #1.

- Leafs43


Not my team - but I'd rather see the Oil take a bigger Cap hit each year than get a 5th - which really = nothing.

Would have to be at least a 4th.

But I'm no GM so...
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:10 AM ET
I still don't understand the Keith trade. At all. It's like he wanted to make a trade with maximum pain. Surely, there were no other suitors for Keith's services -- especially at that price point.

It'd be nice to run that Canadian Division one more time.

- mjones242

If that covid keeps tripling in the States they will.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:10 AM ET
I know thats way too much to pay Hyman, but it really sucks losing him like this. I thought maybe for once a player would choose to take a bit less money to stay. Seriously this happens with so many other teams, but never the Leafs. Frustrating.
- Archaic

He did, was willing to give a discount.

Holland is severely overpaying here...Hyman would be leaving 8M on the table.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 22 @ 11:13 AM ET
oilers have an extra 6th in 2021, I assume thats what the leafs get if they do it.

pretty meh. but better than nothing.

only other options are 4th in 2021 or 5th in 2022
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:13 AM ET
Not my team - but I'd rather see the Oil take a bigger Cap hit each year than get a 5th - which really = nothing.

Would have to be at least a 4th.

But I'm no GM so...

- Nasty_Duck


I actually like the idea of picking up some lower end picks in this draft.

My theory is that there will be a lot of players who went unnoticed this year - either because they weren't playing a lot, or there was less scouting, etc etc.

There are usually a few players who rocket up the draft rankings in their draft year. Those players very well may have gone unnoticed and are waiting to be selected in the 5th round.

Or this draft will be like every other draft and the top talent will generally be found in the first two rounds - what do I know.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:14 AM ET
Don't Ron Francis this Dubas.
- Leafs43


I hope we get some compensation, like a prospect or a draft pick or both..

Come on Dubas
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:14 AM ET
He did, was willing to give a discount.

Holland is severely overpaying here...Hyman would be leaving 8M on the table.

- Santo_44


For sure, but how much did players like Rantanen, Stamkos, etc etc leave on the table to stay. Im just pissed losing another player for nothing.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:14 AM ET
He did, was willing to give a discount.

Holland is severely overpaying here...Hyman would be leaving 8M on the table.

- Santo_44


That’s assuming Leafs were prepared to offer term
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:15 AM ET
I hope we get some compensation, like a prospect or a draft pick or both..

Come on Dubas

- PatC80


Its the Leafs, you already know the answer, but havent accepted it yet
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:16 AM ET
I know thats way too much to pay Hyman, but it really sucks losing him like this. I thought maybe for once a player would choose to take a bit less money to stay. Seriously this happens with so many other teams, but never the Leafs. Frustrating.
- Archaic


Don't know how true it is, but read that Hyman would have accepted less what Edmonton is offering to stay in Toronto. Problem is, we still couldn't afford $5M per season on him
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:16 AM ET
oilers have an extra 6th in 2021, I assume thats what the leafs get if they do it.

pretty meh. but better than nothing.

only other options are 4th in 2021 or 5th in 2022

- senstroll


Evan Bouchard....even Holland cant go full Chiarelli though right?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:16 AM ET
Its the Leafs, you already know the answer, but havent accepted it yet

- Archaic

bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:17 AM ET
For sure, but how much did players like Rantanen, Stamkos, etc etc leave on the table to stay. Im just pissed losing another player for nothing.
- Archaic

Be prepared to lose Rielly.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 22 @ 11:19 AM ET
For sure, but how much did players like Rantanen, Stamkos, etc etc leave on the table to stay. Im just pissed losing another player for nothing.
- Archaic


We did t lose him for nothing. We decided to keep him for the playoffs. Do you think they should have traded him at the deadline or that they should sign him for 7 or 8 years?

He played the full value of his contract. End of story.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:21 AM ET
For sure, but how much did players like Rantanen, Stamkos, etc etc leave on the table to stay. Im just pissed losing another player for nothing.
- Archaic

Stamkos signed in a tax free state, he probably barely left a penny on the table.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
We did t lose him for nothing. We decided to keep him for the playoffs. Do you think they should have traded him at the deadline or that they should sign him for 7 or 8 years?

He played the full value of his contract. End of story.

- Canada Cup

Greg Mckegg for 5 years of Hyman

Great trade

Great value

All the best to him
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:25 AM ET
Stamkos signed in a tax free state, he probably barely left a penny on the table.
- Santo_44

Yeah, cause rich peoples accountants don't have a way of getting out of paying taxes.
Also it's only a tax free state for the 40or so games he plays there.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:31 AM ET
Eric Engels
@EricEngels
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26m
Marc Bergevin says Shea Weber has several injuries (ankle, foot, knee, thumb). "Even missing a practice for him wasn't an option. He has a lot of mileage...He won't be back next season, and probably won't be back for his career."
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:32 AM ET
We did t lose him for nothing. We decided to keep him for the playoffs. Do you think they should have traded him at the deadline or that they should sign him for 7 or 8 years?

He played the full value of his contract. End of story.

- Canada Cup


I think they should have resigned him last offseason of traded him then. Its the same way I feel about Reilly this offseason. The Leafs cant afford to lose players over and over. They got worse so far not better.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:33 AM ET
Remind me again why any team wants Zach Hyman until he is 37?

This is franking madness.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:33 AM ET
Eric Engels
@EricEngels
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26m
Marc Bergevin says Shea Weber has several injuries (ankle, foot, knee, thumb). "Even missing a practice for him wasn't an option. He has a lot of mileage...He won't be back next season, and probably won't be back for his career."

- 21peter

Well until the playoffs start.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:34 AM ET
i dont know if this is good or bad, but over the last 3 seasons, Hyman scored 20% of this goals into an empty net
- senstroll

Huge
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:34 AM ET
Remind me again why any team wants Zach Hyman until he is 37?

This is franking madness.

- Atomic Wedgie

As long as it is not the leafs, i dont care
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:35 AM ET
Eric Engels
@EricEngels
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26m
Marc Bergevin says Shea Weber has several injuries (ankle, foot, knee, thumb). "Even missing a practice for him wasn't an option. He has a lot of mileage...He won't be back next season, and probably won't be back for his career."

- 21peter



Either A - this is absolute bullsh!t.

Or B - Weber is a beast who played great through the playoffs despite being injured.

This is one of the few cases where I believe B.

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