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Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jul 21 @ 11:29 PM ET
If we have Darksyde with us, I might then say that I had a vegetarian burrito with chanterelles cheese fondue stuffing today and it was great. Much greater than Mr. Peanut's runs.
- Réal_Ruelle

Omg, that sounds awesome given a soft cheese and herb stuffing in a chanterelle would be delicious, especially served on a crusty baked bread, with a French onion soup au jus...
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 21 @ 11:29 PM ET
That would be insane.
- Réal_Ruelle

someone may want to tell him risto is not good.
robdavies91
Seattle Kraken
Location: DC
Joined: 05.28.2021

Jul 21 @ 11:33 PM ET
Hope it does not end up in resigning Jon Merrill.
- Réal_Ruelle


We need RHD
robdavies91
Seattle Kraken
Location: DC
Joined: 05.28.2021

Jul 21 @ 11:34 PM ET
someone may want to tell him risto is not good.
- Gramps28


It’s hard to say who is good defensively on a Buffalo team but his offense will come in handy. Better than Gustaffson
firelarry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Silver Creek, NY
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 21 @ 11:42 PM ET
Risto has been playing out of his comfort zone for YEARS here in Buffalo! He is a gifted offensive defensman but has been tasked with playing a physical game that takes you out of position a lot that causes a breakdown in the d zone. This is because our Other Sabres defensemen are soft. I’d personally hate to see Risto against us when he’s played to his strengths. Plus RHD is a hot commodity in the NHL currently.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 21 @ 11:50 PM ET
It’s hard to say who is good defensively on a Buffalo team but his offense will come in handy. Better than Gustaffson
- robdavies91


better than Gus, so you're giving up KK for him? right...
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 21 @ 11:59 PM ET
It’s hard to say who is good defensively on a Buffalo team but his offense will come in handy. Better than Gustaffson
- robdavies91

well, no one suggested gus to be a #1 d-man. risto pales in comparison to other guys on the same team.

he put up some pp points. but then, he has never had a 60 point season like gus.

he is the worst 5v5 d-man in the league in a lot of metrics.


petry is the habs de facto #1. btw.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:00 AM ET
better than Gus, so you're giving up KK for him? right...
- Pat1993

he's terrible. and no one thinks gus is a #1. ever.


not to mention that whenever risto is on the ice, the other team is spending a lot of time in your zone. the guy gets caved in nightly.


he does well on the PP. i will say that.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 22 @ 12:12 AM ET
he's terrible. and no one thinks gus is a #1. ever.


not to mention that whenever risto is on the ice, the other team is spending a lot of time in your zone. the guy gets caved in nightly.


he does well on the PP. i will say that.

- Gramps28


I know there's always the "change of scenery" theory, and Staal did finally start playing better in the post-season, but that definitely doesn't sound like something the habs would currently need on D, especially at a high cost.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 12:16 AM ET
I know there's always the "change of scenery" theory, and Staal did finally start playing better in the post-season, but that definitely doesn't sound like something the habs would currently need on D, especially at a high cost.
- Pat1993

we only hear about the change of scenery when it works, tho. it gets forgotten when it doesn't.

he has been in buffalo for 8 seasons. at this point in time, i am going to lean to him being more the problem than solution type.
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Jul 22 @ 12:53 AM ET
Bergevin Is an Incompetent pretty boy not a gambler and Carey Price Is Irrelevant so this Is a none story, Stop looking for drama that Is simply manufactured. It's boring!!!!!
robdavies91
Seattle Kraken
Location: DC
Joined: 05.28.2021

Jul 22 @ 1:43 AM ET
well, no one suggested gus to be a #1 d-man. risto pales in comparison to other guys on the same team.

he put up some pp points. but then, he has never had a 60 point season like gus.

he is the worst 5v5 d-man in the league in a lot of metrics.

petry is the habs de facto #1. btw.

- Gramps28


Gus 60 points was a few years ago doesn’t mean Ristolainen cannot do it

Even if he is not so good defensively have got like Chiarot to back him up and if he can generate more offensive chances it’s worth the risk.

Petry is the #1 but I also recall he was pretty bad in +/- in EDM
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 22 @ 5:39 AM ET
Gus 60 points was a few years ago doesn’t mean Ristolainen cannot do it

Even if he is not so good defensively have got like Chiarot to back him up and if he can generate more offensive chances it’s worth the risk.

Petry is the #1 but I also recall he was pretty bad in +/- in EDM

- robdavies91

He's a tire fire. Let it go. If you actually watched him you'd know you don't want him
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 22 @ 6:17 AM ET
Hopefully nobody will release the kraken instead of the apes next season
Dewey8
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 10.24.2018

Jul 22 @ 7:26 AM ET
Seattle taking price was the bigger gamble than leaving him exposed.its not like MB pulled some major wool over anyone's eyes lol.
robdavies91
Seattle Kraken
Location: DC
Joined: 05.28.2021

Jul 22 @ 7:38 AM ET
He's a tire fire. Let it go. If you actually watched him you'd know you don't want him
- Takemedrunkimhome


Not my first choice of coz vs some other RHD but not that bad have watched him since his early days to now, defense has gotten better, may work as 2nd pairing
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 22 @ 7:46 AM ET
Karine
Hains: Bergevin Gambled and Won

Marc Bergevin’s decision to expose Carey Price and protect Jake Allen paid off in the end and the Canadiens will have both of their goaltenders to start next season.

- Karine Hains


Did he though?

I am still on the fence as to whether he won.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jul 22 @ 7:47 AM ET
He's a tire fire. Let it go. If you actually watched him you'd know you don't want him
- Takemedrunkimhome

I think we will have to play lefthanded Ds on the right side. I don't see Hamilton signing with Mtl.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 22 @ 7:50 AM ET
There are some rumors on HFBoards that the Habs are trading for Ristolainen.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 22 @ 7:50 AM ET
Not my first choice of coz vs some other RHD but not that bad have watched him since his early days to now, defense has gotten better, may work as 2nd pairing
- robdavies91

He's hot garbage and has one year left on his deal which means trading for him means paying for him long term. One step forward, two steps back. His offense doesn't make up for utter lack of defense
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 22 @ 7:52 AM ET
I think we will have to play lefthanded Ds on the right side. I don't see Hamilton signing with Mtl.
- fidopro

I've been saying this for a bit and would rather that than get tied up in contracts with poopty players just because they shoot right. This many holes are hard to fill in one off season and the Habs are already borderline missing the playoffs, not sure how many long term risks I'd take to try and sneak in
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 22 @ 7:53 AM ET
There are some rumors on HFBoards that the Habs are trading for Ristolainen.
- ImThatGuy

Good to know they aren't then, that's a relief
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 22 @ 8:19 AM ET
Good to know they aren't then, that's a relief
- Takemedrunkimhome


I mean, Petry also sucked while playing with the Oilers...Ristolainen could be a good pickup if they can teach him to play defense.
robdavies91
Seattle Kraken
Location: DC
Joined: 05.28.2021

Jul 22 @ 8:29 AM ET
I mean, Petry also sucked while playing with the Oilers...Ristolainen could be a good pickup if they can teach him to play defense.
- BashCH


Exactly what I am saying
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 22 @ 8:40 AM ET
I mean, Petry also sucked while playing with the Oilers...Ristolainen could be a good pickup if they can teach him to play defense.
- BashCH

So you want to trade a bunch of assets and give out a UFA contract to find out if they can teach an 8 year NHL vet to do the primary activity his position requires? That's not a wise strategy in my books...rather a terrible one
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