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Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
of all the NFL QBs in history who couldn't throw the ball more than 15 yards downfield he definitely ranks among the very best
- DoubleDown

Fun fact, his last year starting in KC he was the top rated deep ball thrower in the league, by a country mile...but once you're nicknamed captain checkdown that reputation sticks with you, even if it isn't accurate
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
Last years pieces were easier to find. This years pieces don't grow on trees so I won't blame MB if he doesn't fill them unless he reaches and over plays his hand to fill them with unqualified people
- Takemedrunkimhome


he needs an elite dman. he is unlikely to get one. the question is, does he go overpay for mid-tier dmen like Risto or Savard? or hang on to the cap space unless something comes along later in the summer or during the season.

because really, i'm not sure David Savard moves the needle all that much.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 23 @ 12:38 PM ET
he needs an elite dman. he is unlikely to get one. the question is, does he go overpay for mid-tier dmen like Risto or Savard? or hang on to the cap space unless something comes along later in the summer or during the season.

because really, i'm not sure David Savard moves the needle all that much.

- DoubleDown



not so convinced either, and it kinda reeks of a looming overpayment.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 23 @ 12:38 PM ET
he needs an elite dman. he is unlikely to get one. the question is, does he go overpay for mid-tier dmen like Risto or Savard? or hang on to the cap space unless something comes along later in the summer or during the season.

because really, i'm not sure David Savard moves the needle all that much.

- DoubleDown

I've said my piece on those guys and I'd rather MB do nothing than do a half measure
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 23 @ 12:39 PM ET

- Pat1993

"...but football in the groin had a football in the groin"
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Fun fact, his last year starting in KC he was the top rated deep ball thrower in the league, by a country mile...but once you're nicknamed captain checkdown that reputation sticks with you, even if it isn't accurate
- Takemedrunkimhome


yeah but a deep ball is anything over 20 yards in the air. come on. he was no gunslinger. but he was better than he ever got credit for, no question.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 23 @ 12:40 PM ET
not so convinced either, and it kinda reeks of a looming overpayment.
- Pat1993


Alzner 2.0
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
I've said my piece on those guys and I'd rather MB do nothing than do a half measure
- Takemedrunkimhome


yeah i would tend to agree. id rather see him take a swing and try to unearth a player who is devalued on his own team.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 23 @ 12:42 PM ET
Alzner 2.0
- Mashadar


im not even worried about an Alzner. i'm more worried about giving a $30 million contract to Ben Chiarot 2.0.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
yeah but a deep ball is anything over 20 yards in the air. come on. he was no gunslinger. but he was better than he ever got credit for, no question.
- DoubleDown

Yes, 20 yards downfield is a proper measure of a deep ball, especially when your comment was he doesn't throw beyond 15 yards but ultimately he won games which is what matters. People would jerk off Phillip Rivers for years while ignoring the fact he never won anything or even came close. Not calling him a gunslinger but typically gunslingers hurt you just as much as they help you...see Favre for example
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
Alzner 2.0
- Mashadar


they do need a good veteran presence on D in Laval...
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 23 @ 1:00 PM ET
https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1418405700502499331
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 23 @ 1:06 PM ET
https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1418405700502499331
- mr.peanut

If it doesn't need Dach or the cat the price may be in a range the Habs could enter but I'd imagine a big part of it is Seth will sign in Chicago and likely not MTL or even elsewhere possibly
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 23 @ 1:07 PM ET
https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1418405700502499331
- mr.peanut


I thought the hawks were heading towards some sort of rebuild...
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 23 @ 1:08 PM ET
they do need a good veteran presence on D in Laval...

- Pat1993

a vet stay at home d with Romanov would make sense. You then give him more minutes next season.
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 23 @ 1:08 PM ET
im not even worried about an Alzner. i'm more worried about giving a $30 million contract to Ben Chiarot 2.0.
- DoubleDown


Seeing how Chiarot plays prolly extension of 4x4 makes sense
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 23 @ 1:09 PM ET
I thought the hawks were heading towards some sort of rebuild...
- Pat1993

they did trade for his bother
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 23 @ 1:10 PM ET
a vet stay at home d with Romanov would make sense. You then give him more minutes next season.
- deadpoulet


I know you really, really like Savard, but he was making 4M in TB, how much are you willing to pay him to be a 3rd pairing guy on the habs?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 23 @ 1:11 PM ET
If it doesn't need Dach or the cat the price may be in a range the Habs could enter but I'd imagine a big part of it is Seth will sign in Chicago and likely not MTL or even elsewhere possibly
- Takemedrunkimhome

they are not trading him East, unless that team overpay
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 23 @ 1:12 PM ET
they did trade for his bother
- deadpoulet


I know but the tweet talks about getting Seth for "another mix of Chicago’s young players, prospects and high draft picks", which is kinda the opposite of a rebuild.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 23 @ 1:12 PM ET
I thought the hawks were heading towards some sort of rebuild...
- Pat1993

Top pairing d men who can play another 8 to 10 years tend to be useful in a rebuild
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 23 @ 1:13 PM ET
Seeing how Chiarot plays prolly extension of 4x4 makes sense
- habs88888

Might be pessimistic but I imagine they trade him at the deadline when it's clear they'll miss the playoffs and get a solid return for him
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 23 @ 1:13 PM ET
I know you really, really like Savard, but he was making 4M in TB, how much are you willing to pay him to be a 3rd pairing guy on the habs?
- Pat1993


he would be a top 4 d here.

They will need to play all 6 d, we saw that in the finals

look, Seth Jones is not happening, which is why I'm not talking about him. I was talking about Ellis before he got traded to the Flyers, but it is what it is.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 23 @ 1:14 PM ET
they are not trading him East, unless that team overpay
- deadpoulet

I think it's also a situation where Jones has said he'd extend in one location but maybe not the others
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